From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 10 08:10:24 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2ED7316A4F6 for ; Sun, 10 Feb 2008 08:10:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E08FE13C4F5 for ; Sun, 10 Feb 2008 08:10:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from TEDSDSK (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with SMTP id m1A8AL37004962; Sun, 10 Feb 2008 00:10:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Tore Lund" , Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2008 00:11:29 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <47AE11A8.8070606@netscape.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1914 X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]); Sun, 10 Feb 2008 00:10:23 -0800 (PST) Cc: Subject: RE: Some ideas for FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2008 08:10:24 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Tore Lund > Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2008 12:49 PM > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: Some ideas for FreeBSD > > > Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > > Reason # 1 to be happy with Linux: It attracts all the morons who > > would otherwise fuck up FreeBSD? > > I do wish people would not be "happy" about missing users. Being rid of > all the "morons" means that we are also rid of proper attention from > companies like Adobe and Nvidia. Some of us see that as a drawback. No, this isn't true at all for the hardware vendors like Nvidia. When a hardware vendor contemplates entering a market like FreeBSD they have 3 major concerns. First, is market size. However, second is ease of porting to the OS, and last is the liklihood of having to supply technical support. If you have a large market but everyone in the market is a moron and will be calling you for tech support, your going to make less money than a smaller market where everyone is an expert and nobody is calling you for tech support. What is double plus good is that there's experts floating around in the small market who will do your support for you, including writing your drivers, all you have to do is supply a minimal set of programming interface docs. This is a far cry from Windows where you have to write and debug the driver and pay Microsoft a lot of money to get it certified. As for attention from Adobe, doesen't it bother you to use a free OS merely as a platform for running commercial software? How about ditching the commercial software completely and using free open source tools on the free OS? That's what FreeBSD is all about, honey. Ted