Date: Thu, 28 May 2020 17:00:47 +0100 From: Steve O'Hara-Smith <steve@sohara.org> To: Aryeh Friedman <aryeh.friedman@gmail.com> Cc: Polytropon <freebsd@edvax.de>, Valeri Galtsev <galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu>, FreeBSD Mailing List <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: FreeBSD Cert Message-ID: <20200528170047.d55ed6402f71c9b2558c78bc@sohara.org> In-Reply-To: <CAGBxaX=oFoSmhQSDZe=DEMpwBcWUeMe7k7yQu%2BxAQje0TDkShA@mail.gmail.com> References: <CY4PR19MB165585A7D4670DC49DB5523AF9B10@CY4PR19MB1655.namprd19.prod.outlook.com> <CAGBxaX=4%2BkOb6n38X9qSA5Hc-b9MNgL98zPdAPTw4sa2v=7Mbg@mail.gmail.com> <CY4PR19MB16551E5798F0C344FD2962A5F9B10@CY4PR19MB1655.namprd19.prod.outlook.com> <CAGBxaX=s80PW4eyZDsFFYzw2vrXXkvXgn0z_bHf-AHNiRU_8vQ@mail.gmail.com> <CY4PR19MB1655BFB2BEDA186543C3871FF9B10@CY4PR19MB1655.namprd19.prod.outlook.com> <CAGBxaXk-yTvN1mCXwSQtjVv4DAkjfMiQP%2BZGfLqExRa7Op6TOw@mail.gmail.com> <CY4PR19MB1655146321E7517E6FC5E7A0F9B10@CY4PR19MB1655.namprd19.prod.outlook.com> <20200527203627.2c9faae5@archlinux> <21722039-a01f-37d3-e035-6be2950485e2@kicp.uchicago.edu> <CAGBxaXm=XtgSvmsgtnqdRZkvOnf_XRo_hV5RCKNy4ApeCtgXMw@mail.gmail.com> <20200528022232.662100a3@archlinux> <0e7aa839-eecf-37f7-4498-4ecc73f44689@kicp.uchicago.edu> <20200528164705.278f3983.freebsd@edvax.de> <20200528162637.73917881c2c395f80a5384fc@sohara.org> <CAGBxaX=oFoSmhQSDZe=DEMpwBcWUeMe7k7yQu%2BxAQje0TDkShA@mail.gmail.com>
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On Thu, 28 May 2020 11:33:07 -0400 Aryeh Friedman <aryeh.friedman@gmail.com> wrote: > On Thu, May 28, 2020 at 11:26 AM Steve O'Hara-Smith <steve@sohara.org> > wrote: > > > On Thu, 28 May 2020 16:47:05 +0200 > > Polytropon <freebsd@edvax.de> wrote: > > > > > Historically, "programmer" meant _all_ stages of program development, > > > > Historically (in the days when COBOL was king) you had systems > > analysts who analysed business systems and decided what programs needed > > to be written, designers who designed those programs and programmers > > who wrote the code. > > > > Around the time I came into the industry it had collapsed to > > analyst/programmers who designed things and wrote the hard bits and > > programmers who wrote the rest. > > > > That model only applied in the mainframe world as far I know it was never > used in the micro/(non-IBM) mini world. It was tried - I met it being tried in the early days of CP/M business applications, along with COBOL for the Z80. -- Steve O'Hara-Smith | Directable Mirror Arrays C:\>WIN | A better way to focus the sun The computer obeys and wins. | licences available see You lose and Bill collects. | http://www.sohara.org/
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