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Date:      Thu, 16 Apr 1998 13:52:36 +0930
From:      Greg Lehey <grog@lemis.com>
To:        Snob Art Genre <benedict@echonyc.com>, FreeBSD Chat <chat@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   Re: the place of vi
Message-ID:  <19980416135236.I1090@freebie.lemis.com>
In-Reply-To: <19980415191237.50402@urh.uiuc.edu>; from dannyman on Wed, Apr 15, 1998 at 07:12:37PM -0500
References:  <Pine.BSF.3.96.980414080743.23505A-100000@shell.futuresouth.com> <Pine.GSO.3.96.980415180848.17256F-100000@echonyc.com> <19980415191237.50402@urh.uiuc.edu>

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On Wed, 15 April 1998 at 19:12:37 -0500, dannyman wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 15, 1998 at 06:10:44PM -0400, Snob Art Genre wrote:
>> On Tue, 14 Apr 1998, Matthew D. Fuller wrote:
>>
>>> What're you going to say to a poor non-hacker when their system fails to
>>> mount their /usr partition, and you can just BARELY convince them that vi
>>> is usable?
>>
>> "Here's a floppy with a statically compiled version of ee on it.  I can
>> understand not wanting to try to figure out vi when your system is
>> blowing up, in fact, I keep a (static) copy of ee in /bin for that same
>> reason."
>
> Indeed, ee would seem a better call, unless it's too bloated - not all
> syadmins know how to use vi, but ee is easy enough for even the 'leetest
> hackers to figure out when they're trying to ressurect /etc/fstab :)

The great advantage of vi is that it's available everywhere.  I use
Emacs for real work, but it's a pain to use on a character terminal,
so I use vi there.  I need to know vi for dozens of reasons.  Why make
me learn a tu^Hhird editor?

Greg
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