From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 13 13:27:13 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2EFF16A41C for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 13:27:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from etoll@vipstructures.com) Received: from rodan.vipstructures.com (rodan.vipstructures.com [66.195.71.71]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CE8C43D4C for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 13:27:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from etoll@vipstructures.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.vipstructures.com [127.0.0.1]) by rodan.vipstructures.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B78C61EE83D for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 09:27:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mothra.vipstructures.com (mothra.vipstructures.com [192.168.1.3]) by rodan.vipstructures.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 809701EE828 for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 09:27:12 -0400 (EDT) content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6487.1 Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 09:27:43 -0400 Message-ID: <9BC86C67C3AF7646B9C5382020457A9456EA37@VIP10-WIN2K> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: What kind of MotherBoard is better for FreeBsd and linux? Thread-Index: AcVulbh+LxZpJ0dZTr+oXeSdiZQovwBhbgkQ From: "Toll, Eric" To: "Francisco" , "Adriaan de Groot" Cc: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Subject: RE: What kind of MotherBoard is better for FreeBsd and linux? X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 13:27:13 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org=20 > [mailto:owner-freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Francisco > Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2005 10:56 AM > To: Adriaan de Groot > Cc: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: What kind of MotherBoard is better for FreeBsd and linux? >=20 > On Fri, 10 Jun 2005, Adriaan de Groot wrote: >=20 > > I think the motherboards list could use a redesign so that=20 > it carries=20 > > _more_ information. >=20 >=20 > I think the design is fine, BUT it should be more specific.=20 > People should report what they know to work. We should=20 > probably get rid of the "functional" and "fully=20 > functional"... OR define what "fully functional"=20 > means. >=20 I *did* put quite a lot of info into the notes, but they (the person updating the HTML) truncated it to: "SATA untested" for the Gigabyte board I submitted (GA-7A8DW) -- I had a small paragraph of notes to include which again were *truncated*. The reason SATA was untested was that I found there were issues getting RAID to raid to work on the Sil chips, just from reading this list. People on list said 3Ware was a good way to go and GA-7A8DW is on the 3Ware certified motherboard listing. For $148.00 US the (2) channel 64bit 3Ware card is a no-brainer. But still some choose to ignore research and go after boards with questionable chipsets, then try to make something like RAID work on unsupported hardware that may be cheap, poorly designed and flawed to begin with. Stop buying the Kia and expecting the Mercedes, a little bit of research will go a long way. I am by no means a FreeBSD expert (just ask Roland Smith! ) , but I have setup servers long enough to know you get what you pay for. =20 I really was thrify with my server anyway. I spent $1,800.00 USD total for a EATX 550 Watt Antec quiet case, (2) 250Gb RAID edition drives, (2) 64 bit 242 Opteron processors, 1 Gb of ECC Reg DDR 400 Ram (certified to work with GA-7A8DW), the GA-7A8DW mainboard and the 3Ware raid controller. The dual operton servers I see online start at $3K USD and don't even come with RAID.... Stop buying the Kia and expecting the Mercedes! I am quite sure someone can come up with much better recipies for an AMD64 box than I have. Research is a wonderful thing. Eric =20