From owner-freebsd-hackers Fri Oct 31 03:44:19 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id DAA00297 for hackers-outgoing; Fri, 31 Oct 1997 03:44:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers) Received: from cam.grad.kiev.ua ([195.5.25.54]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id DAA00261 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 1997 03:44:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rssh@cam.grad.ipri.kiev.ua) Received: from cam.grad.ipri.kiev.ua (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cam.grad.kiev.ua (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA18990; Fri, 31 Oct 1997 14:38:19 GMT Message-ID: <3459ED5A.9FF16E75@cam.grad.ipri.kiev.ua> Date: Fri, 31 Oct 1997 14:38:19 +0000 From: Ruslan Shevchenko Reply-To: Ruslan@shevchenko.kiev.ua X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03b8 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.5-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Greg Lehey CC: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD slogan/advert ideas References: <199710302257.QAA15890@Mercury.mcs.net> <199710310108.LAA00321@word.smith.net.au> <19971031122915.60452@lemis.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Greg Lehey wrote: > On Fri, Oct 31, 1997 at 11:38:37AM +1030, Mike Smith wrote: > ?? Emphasizing that it can be used for *both* workstations AND servers: > ? > ? "All the power, none of the price. What do you want to do today?" > > "All the power, none of the price. Do what you want to do today" > In reality, FreeBSD can not be concurentable ws NT, we have few big problems: 1. bad java support 1. biss-awt won't work (on 2.2-stable) 2. port of latest jdk from sun is absent. 2. We have not GUI admin interface for FreeBSD, so newbaies will preffer other systems. 3. near 80% of using computers is databases. we have not port of client software for well-known commerce databases (Oracle, Sysbase, Informix) 4. We have not good c++ compiler. gcc is great, but exceptions and namespaces are very important stuff for c++ programmers. And standart string class yet not well in 2.2-stable. > Greg