From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 9 19:42:40 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CBAB16A418 for ; Sun, 9 Dec 2007 19:42:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from r.c.ladan@gmail.com) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.178]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24D6613C45A for ; Sun, 9 Dec 2007 19:42:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from r.c.ladan@gmail.com) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id u77so3116624pyb for ; Sun, 09 Dec 2007 11:42:38 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type; bh=tT127C3/fcwoL0u+/7bWOqGeMyon3TZk77mFRJuzf5M=; b=aAUSW5p1O55gNXv4tBR7wUwEe02uA9E3Kmmp7PGhQk9EqpNGYZaZ+5GsbANgEg8q8WPcX7x0m9gv382BABPYBq89qf/4Dg2exTat9wF0NkkwqsmMtXLml5gj1aM5l437mWQleLJh1460mQMf/55w+PE0OVRgJs39FJEPCddVl5g= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type; b=TcXjh75GAFxNwEPrgJP7nxvKoZORQ+ZUpTgVX7DHzbBmKcELBHOfvWuykXFCPpr4Y8JKUx+I9vE9WJue5npXIo6NNNVe8AgJUARJHyn8csyXnyymwlIPcLp3RSzABrCKsjokY1O9SMK4+7NKovI8LiXRfsr17Rbg7mieUYtxSW4= Received: by 10.65.54.9 with SMTP id g9mr12176659qbk.1197229358129; Sun, 09 Dec 2007 11:42:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from ip4da3ae31.direct-adsl.nl.0.163.77.in-addr.arpa ( [77.163.174.49]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id f3sm3968897nfh.2007.12.09.11.42.35 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 09 Dec 2007 11:42:36 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <475C452A.4060502@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 09 Dec 2007 20:42:34 +0100 From: Rene Ladan User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20071116) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org References: <200712081728.18710.Thomas.Sparrevohn@btinternet.com> <475AD8DE.4080302@conducive.net> <200712082118.30268.Thomas.Sparrevohn@btinternet.com> In-Reply-To: <200712082118.30268.Thomas.Sparrevohn@btinternet.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.1 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------080601010503050902020007" Subject: Re: CURRENT Kernel makes the system run very very hot X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Dec 2007 19:42:40 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------080601010503050902020007 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Thomas Sparrevohn schreef: > On Saturday 08 December 2007 17:48:14 韓家標 Bill Hacker wrote: >> Thomas Sparrevohn wrote: >>> Hi >>> >>> There something weird going on - at minimal workloads my system gets very >>> very hot - The system is watercooled, 4 Fan's etc its a quad core QX6700 - >>> make buildkernel - will make the fans run at highest speed (its impossibly to >>> be in the room at the same time). >>> >>> There are no problems when running other OS'es - Are anybody else having this >>> kind of problems (PS its a relatively new thing - maybe 2 weeks)? >> And 'top -S' reports what? >> > > I was trying to avoid to go back to running "pure UFS" again - but I guess I have to inorder > to eliminate ZFS as the potential source > On my Asus A6JE running todays HEAD, top -S -H -d 1 shows: last pid: 21503; load averages: 0.16, 0.12, 0.09 up 0+03:05:21 20:33:00 136 processes: 4 running, 113 sleeping, 19 waiting CPU states: % user, % nice, % system, % interrupt, % idle Mem: 217M Active, 253M Inact, 120M Wired, 19M Cache, 112M Buf, 1392M Free Swap: 4062M Total, 4062M Free PID USERNAME PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE C TIME WCPU COMMAND 10 root 171 ki31 0K 16K RUN 0 350:57 92.43% {idle: cpu0} 10 root 171 ki31 0K 16K RUN 1 350:57 86.52% {idle: cpu1} 889 rene 96 0 300M 42308K select 0 4:14 7.47% Xorg 975 rene 96 0 147M 92808K select 0 1:50 4.64% {initial thread} 928 rene 96 0 43704K 10208K select 1 1:13 0.05% xfce4-clipman-pl 950 rene 96 0 53760K 19772K select 0 0:09 0.05% Terminal 975 rene 97 0 147M 92808K ucond 1 1:50 0.00% {thunderbird-bin 975 rene 96 0 147M 92808K select 0 1:50 0.00% {thunderbird-bin 975 rene 96 0 147M 92808K ucond 0 1:50 0.00% {thunderbird-bin 975 rene 96 0 147M 92808K select 1 1:50 0.00% {thunderbird-bin 975 rene 96 0 147M 92808K select 0 1:50 0.00% {thunderbird-bin 975 rene 96 0 147M 92808K ucond 0 1:50 0.00% {thunderbird-bin 975 rene 96 0 147M 92808K ucond 0 1:50 0.00% {thunderbird-bin 975 rene 96 0 147M 92808K ucond 0 1:50 0.00% {thunderbird-bin 975 rene 96 0 147M 92808K ucond 0 1:50 0.00% {thunderbird-bin 930 rene 96 0 27408K 11076K select 0 1:24 0.00% xfce4-systemload root@ip4da3ae31:~# This is with UFS. sysctl hw.acpi.thermal shows: hw.acpi.thermal.min_runtime: 0 hw.acpi.thermal.polling_rate: 10 hw.acpi.thermal.user_override: 0 hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.temperature: 70.0C hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.active: 0 hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.passive_cooling: 1 hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.thermal_flags: 0 hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._PSV: 95.0C hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._HOT: -1 hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._CRT: 105.0C hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._ACx: 60.0C -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 The laptop is running idle, just running xfce4, some applets, and some desktop applications (thunderbird, firefox, pidgin). If I run boinc (einstein/seti/simap) from the ports on a few days old kernel, the temperature rises to 87C-92C, against 67C-72C when idle. At some point the cpus get too hot I guess, judging from a frozen console (the video card is still pushing out the screen image) and a hung ssh connection. Then only power cycling helps. kernel config and loader.conf are attached. Regards, Rene > >> FWIW - the opposite experience here. >> Core-2 Quad QX6600 on Asus and Gigabyte, Core-D dual on Tyan. >> >> Stock Intel cooler & fans, case fans on variable-speed MB connectors, PSU's with >> 'smart' fans. >> >> Fans run at nowhere near full-speed even with a long make -j 12. >> >> Under 'average load', not yet as quiet as my PowerBook G4, but getting close to >> our C3 MB with constant-speed fans. >> >> Something in the cooling water? Bacteria? Goldfish turds? >> >> Bill >> >> > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-current-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- GPG fingerprint = E738 5471 D185 7013 0EE0 4FC8 3C1D 6F83 12E1 84F6 (subkeys.pgp.net) "It won't fit on the line." -- me, 2001 --------------080601010503050902020007 Content-Type: text/plain; name="loader.conf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: inline; filename="loader.conf" bG9hZGVyX2xvZ289ImJlYXN0aWUiCmtlcm4ubWF4ZmlsZXM9IjI1MDAwIgpsZWdhbC5pbnRl bF93cGkubGljZW5zZV9hY2s9MQpyYW5kb21fbG9hZD0iWUVTIgphaGRfbG9hZD0iWUVTIgph aGNfbG9hZD0iWUVTIgphaGNfZWlzYV9sb2FkPSJZRVMiCmFoY19wY2lfbG9hZD0iWUVTIgph dGFkaXNrX2xvYWQ9IllFUyIKdWhpZF9sb2FkPSJZRVMiCm5nX3VidF9sb2FkPSJZRVMiCnNt YXBpX2xvYWQ9IllFUyIKdW1hc3NfbG9hZD0iWUVTIgptc2Rvc2ZzX2xvYWQ9IllFUyIKc3lz 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