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Date:      Sun, 20 Jan 2002 11:01:38 +0100
From:      "Kristian Hansen" <kristian.hansen@post.tele.dk>
To:        "Sung-Shik Yang" <syang1@cox.rr.com>
Cc:        <freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: cdrom
Message-ID:  <001701c1a199$739ad640$0601a8c0@DELL01>
References:  <006101c1a1a2$fa5171e0$6401a8c0@yungwoongmoon.goh>

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Hi,

This CD-ROm drive you're using is _not_ an IDE drive, hence it does not =
show in the BIOS.
The drive is likely to be an OEM Matshushita 2x speed drive. It uses a =
proprietary connection, which looks like an IDE interface.

There is a driver for FreeBSD for this device (matcd), but it is not in =
the generic kernel.=20
You have two optios for how to install:
1) Make a custom kernel, including the matcd driver and create your own =
boot floppy. You should then be able to proceed with the install. You =
cannot tell the installer to install from a cd drive at this stage, =
rather you should tell the installer to use a disk partition. As far as =
I remember, this requires you to mount the cd at some mount point.

2) Install FreeBSD via FTP, and then create a custom kernel including =
the matcd driver. If you have a fast and stable connection to the =
internet, this is the option I'll recommend you use.

Regards

Kristian Hansen
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Sung-Shik Yang=20
  To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org=20
  Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2002 12:09 PM
  Subject: cdrom


  Hi everyone,
  =20
  I was trying to install FreeBSD 4.4 on an old Pentium machine from =
CDROM, but it didn't even detect the CDROM.  The following is the spec.
  =20
  Pentium 1 (75MHz), 40MB RAM
  Separate I/O controller card (Winbond chip, SMC chip), which connects =
to an HDD and an FDD.
  One FDD, One HDD (Pri. IDE Master).
  SoundBlaster 16 card.
  CDROM manufactured by Creative Labs Inc., which made the sound card =
above.
  =20
  Strange thing is, the BIOS wouldn't define the CDROM.  There's 4 IDE =
sections (Pri. master/slave, Sec. master/slave), but they are specificly =
for HDD configuration with cyl/head/sec stuff.  If I just put =
"user"(-defined) option there and make the cyl/head/sec fields as 0, =
then the setup freezes even before memory checking step.  So, I have to =
leave all three IDE settings as "none" at least to boot normally.
  =20
  The sound card has two ports.  The indicator says one of them is "IDE =
interface" and the other is "SoundBlaster Pro / Panasonic CDROM" or =
something.  Currently the CDROM cable is connected to the "IDE =
interface" port of the sound card.  The jumper at the back of the CDROM =
drive is set as "slave".  So, I guess it signifies that the CDROM should =
be treated as primary slave IDE device, while the BIOS doesn't even know =
its presence.  Even more strange, Running Windows98, CDROM is detected =
somehow and runs fine.
  =20
  Any ideas or advices?

  =20
  Sung-Shik Yang
  =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hi,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>This CD-ROm drive you're using is _not_ =
an IDE=20
drive, hence it does not show in the BIOS.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The drive is likely to be an OEM =
Matshushita 2x=20
speed drive. It uses a proprietary connection, which looks like an IDE=20
interface.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>There is a driver for FreeBSD for this =
device=20
(matcd), but it is not in the generic kernel. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>You have two optios for how to=20
install:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>1) Make a custom kernel, including the =
matcd driver=20
and create your own boot floppy. You should then be able to proceed with =
the=20
install. You cannot tell the installer to install from a cd drive at =
this stage,=20
rather you should tell the installer to use a disk partition. As far as =
I=20
remember, this requires you to mount the cd at some mount =
point.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>2) Install FreeBSD via FTP, and then =
create a=20
custom kernel including the matcd driver. If you have a fast and stable=20
connection to the internet, this is the option I'll recommend you=20
use.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Regards</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Kristian Hansen</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
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  style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
  <A href=3D"mailto:syang1@cox.rr.com" =
title=3Dsyang1@cox.rr.com>Sung-Shik Yang</A>=20
  </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
  href=3D"mailto:freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org"=20
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, January 20, 2002 =
12:09=20
  PM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> cdrom</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2>Hi everyone,</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2>I was trying to install =
FreeBSD 4.4 on an=20
  old Pentium machine from CDROM, but it didn't even detect the =
CDROM.&nbsp; The=20
  following is the spec.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2>Pentium 1 (75MHz), 40MB =
RAM</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2>Separate I/O controller card =
(Winbond=20
  chip, SMC chip), which connects to an&nbsp;HDD&nbsp;and=20
  an&nbsp;FDD.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2>One FDD, One HDD (Pri. IDE=20
  Master).</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2>SoundBlaster 16 =
card.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2>CDROM manufactured by =
Creative Labs Inc.,=20
  which made the sound card above.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2>Strange thing is, the BIOS =
wouldn't=20
  define the CDROM.&nbsp; There's 4 IDE sections (Pri. master/slave, =
Sec.=20
  master/slave), but they are specificly for HDD configuration with =
cyl/head/sec=20
  stuff.&nbsp; If I just put "user"(-defined) option there and make the=20
  cyl/head/sec fields as 0, then the setup freezes even before memory =
checking=20
  step.&nbsp; So, I have to leave all three IDE settings as "none" at =
least to=20
  boot normally.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2>The sound card has two =
ports.&nbsp; The=20
  indicator says one of them is "IDE interface" and the other is =
"SoundBlaster=20
  Pro / Panasonic CDROM"&nbsp;or something.&nbsp; Currently the CDROM =
cable is=20
  connected to&nbsp;the "IDE interface" port of the sound =
card.&nbsp;&nbsp;The=20
  jumper at the back of the CDROM drive is set as "slave".&nbsp; So, I =
guess it=20
  signifies that the CDROM should be treated as&nbsp;primary&nbsp;slave =
IDE=20
  device, while the BIOS doesn't even know&nbsp;its presence.&nbsp; Even =
more=20
  strange, Running Windows98, CDROM is detected somehow and runs=20
  fine.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2>Any ideas or =
advices?</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2>Sung-Shik=20
  =
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=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D<BR>Make what is impossible=20
  possible.<BR>Man can die only once, not=20
  twice.<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; - Special Warfare =

  Command<BR>Do what a man can do, <BR>&nbsp;&nbsp; then wait for =
heaven's=20
  =
will.<BR>=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
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