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Date:      Mon, 6 Jan 2003 19:48:39 -0500
From:      "Daniel Goepp" <>
To:        "'FreeBSD Questions'" <freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   RE: Postfix vs. Sendmail
Message-ID:  <000001c2b5e6$8567c0b0$6a32a8c0@dpg>
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Lowell Gilbert wrote:

>Then do it.  If it works, I doubt there will be much trouble getting
>it accepted into the system.

Well yes, I would love to.  

However, I'm not sure I have the know how yet.  I have plenty of
experience in programming, but more db and interface stuff, I also don't
have any specific experience with FreeBSD development.   Plus, why
invent the wheel.  CVSup is already written, and the FreeBSD core team
has control of the source tree, and what gets installed.  If someone can
save me some time in searching, where is the source that controls what
is installed by FreeBSD?

Also, anyone on a first name basis with John Polstra?  I have submitted
an email to the "comments" address on their web page, but I would be
willing to bet it will get swept under the rug.  And I'm not sure
learning Modula-3 is on my agenda right now either.

I do hear what you are saying though.  Trust me, I love this environment
where so many people run into a blocking point, writes some to fix the
problem, and then submit it to share with everyone else, and I would
love to contribute in any way I can, with whoever might actually have
more knowledge on this matter than I do.  But also, these are projects
currently in someone else's court right now, and I don't know the

I realize, as I mentioned in another post, I may well be the only person
that really wants this functionality.  I welcome comments though about
what other people think on the matter, in general or specific terms.  Or
any information about what future plans there are on modifications to
the install process.  And if this is not the forum for this, I would
appreciate being told where the best place to bring this up would be.  I
checked the archives on freebsd-config, and it would appear to be a
largely dead list.




-----Original Message-----
From: [] On
Behalf Of Lowell Gilbert
Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 9:42 AM
To: Daniel Goepp
Cc: FreeBSD Questions
Subject: Re: Postfix vs. Sendmail

Daniel Goepp <> writes:

> So itself runs Postfix, but yet, sendmail is still so
> embedded in FreeBSD that it's almost imposible to get cleaned out.
> are they going to make the FreeBSD install configurable enough to not
> to include sendmail, bind, openssl, etc?  I choose to either install
> apps as ports, or not at all.
> Is there a way to break down the install, and just get a bare bare
> bones install of just base, crypto and man pages, like the install
> it's going to do?  I can't imagine this would be too hard to do!

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