From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 1 18:36:57 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B1CA4930; Fri, 1 Aug 2014 18:36:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from h2.funkthat.com (gate2.funkthat.com [208.87.223.18]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "funkthat.com", Issuer "funkthat.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6A131255F; Fri, 1 Aug 2014 18:36:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from h2.funkthat.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by h2.funkthat.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id s71IastB051249 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 1 Aug 2014 11:36:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jmg@h2.funkthat.com) Received: (from jmg@localhost) by h2.funkthat.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id s71IarVE051247; Fri, 1 Aug 2014 11:36:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jmg) Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2014 11:36:53 -0700 From: John-Mark Gurney To: Cy Schubert Subject: Re: Future of pf / firewall in FreeBSD ? - does it have one ? Message-ID: <20140801183653.GC50495@funkthat.com> Mail-Followup-To: Cy Schubert , Adrian Chadd , freebsd-current , krad , Gleb Smirnoff , Gerrit =?iso-8859-1?Q?K=FChn?= , FreeBSD Mailing List , Matt Bettinger References: <201407231619.s6NGJBQF025702@slippy.cwsent.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <201407231619.s6NGJBQF025702@slippy.cwsent.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 7.2-RELEASE i386 X-PGP-Fingerprint: 54BA 873B 6515 3F10 9E88 9322 9CB1 8F74 6D3F A396 X-Files: The truth is out there X-URL: http://resnet.uoregon.edu/~gurney_j/ X-Resume: http://resnet.uoregon.edu/~gurney_j/resume.html X-TipJar: bitcoin:13Qmb6AeTgQecazTWph4XasEsP7nGRbAPE X-to-the-FBI-CIA-and-NSA: HI! HOW YA DOIN? can i haz chizburger? X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.2 (h2.funkthat.com [127.0.0.1]); Fri, 01 Aug 2014 11:36:55 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 01 Aug 2014 20:05:43 +0000 Cc: Adrian Chadd , krad , freebsd-current , Gleb Smirnoff , Gerrit =?iso-8859-1?Q?K=FChn?= , FreeBSD Mailing List , Matt Bettinger X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2014 18:36:57 -0000 Cy Schubert wrote this message on Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 09:18 -0700: > In message om> > , Adrian Chadd writes: > > On 18 July 2014 07:34, krad wrote: > > > that is true and I have not problem using man pages, however thats not the > > > way most of the world work and search engines arent exactly new either. We > > > should be trying to engage more people not less, and part of that is > > > reaching out. > > > > Then do the port and maintain it. > > > > The problem isn't the desire to keep things up to date, it's a lack of > > people who want that _and_ are willing/able to do it _and_ are funded > > somehow. > > Funding is the issue. Sure, some of us maintain software because a personal > need however without funding one has to fit maintaining software into > whatever time is left. For those of us who do this without funding you > manage to squeeze in an hour here or there. Then write a proposal and submit it to the Foundation.. If you don't ask for funding, it rarely shows up... -- John-Mark Gurney Voice: +1 415 225 5579 "All that I will do, has been done, All that I have, has not."