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Date:      Fri, 4 Mar 2011 15:28:10 +0100
From:      "Christopher J. Ruwe" <>
Subject:   Re: xdm-options - non-bsd user needs bsd rc.d advice
Message-ID:  <20110304152810.36060288@dijkstra>
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On Thu, 03 Mar 2011 17:01:10 -0500
"John D. Hendrickson and Sara Darnell" <> wrote:

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> If anyone would like to quickly comment I'd love to hear why bsd
> would be a better choice than ubantu (for what audience it is better).
> Thanks all,
> John
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Hi John, same with me as with Chad Perrin. Sadly, I cannot put my issue
right and brief at the same time, so please excuse me being verbose.

I started with Linux when being in high-school out of frustration of
Windows forcing me to do things their way. After switching my entire
environment to Suse Linux and after that to a version of RedHat, I
quickly found out that I just switched to a different flavour of
being forced to do things a certain way.

When at university, I tried Gentoo Linux, learned a lot and solved
problems my way. Having bought a notebook later on, I decided trying
the then very much in vogue Ubuntu with a Xubuntu installation.
Although satisfied with the very usable defaults, I was quickly
unnerved by not being able to control things.

Later, I tried OpenSolaris and FreeBSD and am now using FreeBSD due to
the same reasons as Chad Perrin stated: Being a power-user, wanting to
control things and (now diverting from Chad's reasons) wanting to use
technology (most importantly ZFS) without being impeded for ideological
reasons of viral GPLishness.

So, same reasons here as with Chad Perrin, safe for an additionally and
lately aquired GPL-allergy.

@ Chad: Perhaps you might be happier being coerced to use a
Linux with a GNU/Linux flavour like Gentoo or ArchLinux. I have never
tried the latter, however, with Gentoo you are very much in control.
Gentoo effectively forces you to do your own compiling via portage, so
be prepared for a very long install. ArchLinux is to my knowledge binary
based and might be quicker to install. Both Gentoo and ArchLinux have a
reputation to put the user in charge.

What drove me away from Gentoo apart from that GPL-flu was deteriorating
quality of system tools. You install what is world in FreeBSD from
portage in Gentoo, so when updating your portage, necessary system
tools sometimes break. I was driven over the edge when some network-etc
syntax changed without telling me and I lost my network connection as a
result. I had something different in mind for the weekend and was just
furious - so treat Gentoo with care.

Christopher J. Ruwe
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