From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 4 13:28:26 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEB3A1065670 for ; Fri, 4 Mar 2011 13:28:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cjr@cruwe.de) Received: from cruwe.de (t1850.greatnet.de [83.133.124.96]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D2038FC08 for ; Fri, 4 Mar 2011 13:28:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 11956 invoked from network); 4 Mar 2011 13:28:23 -0000 Received: from p57bdfe99.dip.t-dialin.net (HELO dijkstra) (smtpallow@87.189.254.153) by t1850.greatnet.de with ESMTPA; 4 Mar 2011 13:28:23 -0000 Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 15:28:10 +0100 From: "Christopher J. Ruwe" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20110304152810.36060288@dijkstra> In-Reply-To: <4D700FA6.1030806@cox.net> References: <4D700FA6.1030806@cox.net> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.8 (GTK+ 2.22.1; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=PGP-SHA1; boundary="Sig_/7T7H9DMIkzfTx6Nih4ZJhWf"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Subject: Re: xdm-options - non-bsd user needs bsd rc.d advice X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Mar 2011 13:28:26 -0000 --Sig_/7T7H9DMIkzfTx6Nih4ZJhWf Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, 03 Mar 2011 17:01:10 -0500 "John D. Hendrickson and Sara Darnell" wrote: > [snip]=20 > If anyone would like to quickly comment I'd love to hear why bsd > would be a better choice than ubantu (for what audience it is better). >=20 > Thanks all, >=20 > John >=20 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" Hi John, same with me as with Chad Perrin. Sadly, I cannot put my issue right and brief at the same time, so please excuse me being verbose. I started with Linux when being in high-school out of frustration of Windows forcing me to do things their way. After switching my entire environment to Suse Linux and after that to a version of RedHat, I quickly found out that I just switched to a different flavour of being forced to do things a certain way. When at university, I tried Gentoo Linux, learned a lot and solved problems my way. Having bought a notebook later on, I decided trying the then very much in vogue Ubuntu with a Xubuntu installation. Although satisfied with the very usable defaults, I was quickly unnerved by not being able to control things. Later, I tried OpenSolaris and FreeBSD and am now using FreeBSD due to the same reasons as Chad Perrin stated: Being a power-user, wanting to control things and (now diverting from Chad's reasons) wanting to use technology (most importantly ZFS) without being impeded for ideological reasons of viral GPLishness. So, same reasons here as with Chad Perrin, safe for an additionally and lately aquired GPL-allergy. @ Chad: Perhaps you might be happier being coerced to use a Linux with a GNU/Linux flavour like Gentoo or ArchLinux. I have never tried the latter, however, with Gentoo you are very much in control. Gentoo effectively forces you to do your own compiling via portage, so be prepared for a very long install. ArchLinux is to my knowledge binary based and might be quicker to install. Both Gentoo and ArchLinux have a reputation to put the user in charge. What drove me away from Gentoo apart from that GPL-flu was deteriorating quality of system tools. You install what is world in FreeBSD from portage in Gentoo, so when updating your portage, necessary system tools sometimes break. I was driven over the edge when some network-etc syntax changed without telling me and I lost my network connection as a result. I had something different in mind for the weekend and was just furious - so treat Gentoo with care. Cheers, --=20 Christopher J. 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