From nobody Fri Jun 11 14:08:19 2021 X-Original-To: freebsd-current@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A1267C8C15 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 2021 14:08:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-rwg@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net) Received: from gndrsh.dnsmgr.net (br1.CN84in.dnsmgr.net [69.59.192.140]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4G1jP82C6dz3Jmr; Fri, 11 Jun 2021 14:08:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-rwg@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net) Received: from gndrsh.dnsmgr.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gndrsh.dnsmgr.net (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id 15BE8JJg024452; Fri, 11 Jun 2021 07:08:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd-rwg@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net) Received: (from freebsd-rwg@localhost) by gndrsh.dnsmgr.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id 15BE8Jtb024451; Fri, 11 Jun 2021 07:08:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd-rwg) From: "Rodney W. Grimes" Message-Id: <202106111408.15BE8Jtb024451@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> Subject: Re: Files in /etc containing empty VCSId header In-Reply-To: <20210611003113.GA9021@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> To: Steve Kargl Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2021 07:08:19 -0700 (PDT) CC: Kevin Oberman , Michael Gmelin , Ian Lepore , "Rodney W. Grimes" , FreeBSD Current X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL121h (25)] List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-current List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4G1jP82C6dz3Jmr X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[] X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N > On Thu, Jun 10, 2021 at 03:26:58PM -0700, Kevin Oberman wrote: > > On Wed, Jun 9, 2021 at 2:02 AM Michael Gmelin wrote: > > > > > > > On 9. Jun 2021, at 01:15, Ian Lepore wrote: > > > > > > > > ?On Tue, 2021-06-08 at 15:11 -0700, Rodney W. Grimes wrote: > > > >>> On Tue, 8 Jun 2021 09:41:34 +0000 > > > >>> Mark Linimon wrote: > > > >>> > > > >>>> On Mon, Jun 07, 2021 at 01:58:01PM -0600, Ian Lepore wrote: > > > >>>>> Sometimes it's a real interesting exercise to figure out where > > > >>>>> a > > > >>>>> file on your runtime system comes from in the source world. > > > >> > > > >> There is a command for that which does or use to do a pretty > > > >> decent job of it called whereis(1). > > > >> > > > > > > > > revolution > whereis ntp.conf > > > > ntp.conf: > > > > revolution > whereis netif > > > > netif: > > > > > > That line might make it to a shirt one day: > > > > > > > revolution > whereis services > > > > > > ;) > > > Michael > > > > > Just to clarify for those not willing or able to RTFM, it only works for > > executables, not conf files or libraries. It reports the location of the > > executable, the man page and the port location, if it is a port. For those > > who did RTFM, it is wrong. It claims that it reports on the location of the > > source, but that is not the case as far as I know. I have never seen it > > return anything from /usr/src. > > > whereis cc > > cc: /usr/bin/cc /usr/share/man/man1/cc.1.gz > > > whereis postfix > > postfix: /usr/local/sbin/postfix /usr/local/man/man1/postfix.1.gz > > /usr/ports/mail/postfix > > I should probably just lurk, but I believe the command that > some are looking for is ident(1). This command is, of course, > broken by the lost of $FreeBSD$ expansion. ident provides a bit more detail, but yes, it WAS the solution, and it would be nice to have that back. -- Rod Grimes rgrimes@freebsd.org