From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 1 02:21:44 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id CAA16263 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 02:21:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de [141.76.1.11]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id CAA16238 Mon, 1 Jan 1996 02:21:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from sax.sax.de by irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with ESMTP id LAA27354; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 11:21:26 +0100 Received: by sax.sax.de (8.6.11/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id LAA21234; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 11:21:25 +0100 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.7.3/8.6.9) id LAA02232; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 11:07:41 +0100 (MET) From: J Wunsch Message-Id: <199601011007.LAA02232@uriah.heep.sax.de> Subject: Re: FreeBSD, Zappa & PCI To: ez@eztravel.com (EZ Travel) Date: Mon, 1 Jan 1996 11:07:40 +0100 (MET) Cc: hackers@FreeBSD.org, questions@FreeBSD.org, ez@eztravel.com Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) In-Reply-To: <199512312014.MAA00282@eztravel.com> from "EZ Travel" at Dec 31, 95 12:14:36 pm X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk As EZ Travel wrote: > > Dec 31 10:59:29 eztravel /kernel: pci0:7: INTEL CORPORATION, device=0x122e, class=bridge [not supported] > Is this a serious problem? What does the class=bridge[not supported] > mean? You are running an old version of FreeBSD. :) The confusing `not supported' message has been changed meanwhile into `no driver assigned'. This is not a problem, since the BIOS usually has initialized the device, it's only telling that FreeBSD doesn't provide any handling of its own for it. -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 1 06:44:04 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id GAA22684 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 06:44:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from omega.physik.fu-berlin.de (omega.physik.fu-berlin.de [130.133.3.51]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id GAA22664 for ; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 06:44:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from mordillo (oberon.physik.fu-berlin.de [130.133.3.126]) by omega.physik.fu-berlin.de (8.7.1/8.7.1) with ESMTP id PAA20337; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 15:43:51 +0100 (MET) Received: (from graichen@localhost) by mordillo (8.6.12/8.6.12) id PAA00517; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 15:18:43 +0100 From: Thomas Graichen Message-Id: <199601011418.PAA00517@mordillo> Subject: Re: gcc and libg version in 2.1? To: spaz@u.washington.edu (John Utz) Date: Mon, 1 Jan 1996 15:18:43 +0100 (MET) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "John Utz" at Dec 31, 95 05:45:52 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk hasn't John Utz said ? ... > > Hi gang > > i am still running 2.0.5. I am considering moving up to 2.1. What version > of gcc and libg++ are bundled with 2.1? > gcc 2.6.3 and libg++ 2.6.x t _______________________________________________________||___________________ __|| Perfection is reached, not when there is no __|| thomas graichen longer anything to add, but when there __|| freie universitaet berlin is no longer anything to take away __|| fachbereich physik __|| - Antoine de Saint-Exupery - __|| graichen@mail.physik.fu-berlin.de ___________________________||__________________graichen@FreeBSD.org_________ From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 1 08:08:08 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id IAA25341 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 08:08:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from brasil.moneng.mei.com (brasil.moneng.mei.com [151.186.109.160]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA25336 Mon, 1 Jan 1996 08:08:03 -0800 (PST) Received: (from jgreco@localhost) by brasil.moneng.mei.com (8.7.Beta.1/8.7.Beta.1) id KAA10803; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 10:06:59 -0600 From: Joe Greco Message-Id: <199601011606.KAA10803@brasil.moneng.mei.com> Subject: Re: Answer to /bin/ls and ftp (should be documented) To: mbarkah@hemi.com (Ade Barkah) Date: Mon, 1 Jan 1996 10:06:58 -0600 (CST) Cc: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199512310246.TAA13020@hemi.com> from "Ade Barkah" at Dec 30, 95 07:46:49 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk > 3. Copy the new pwd.db file into ~ftp/etc, and make it only > readable to everyone (chmod a=r pwd.db.) You should have > two files in ~ftp/etc directory: pwd.db, and group. The > passwd file is not necessary. Here's an example of how > the ~ftp/etc directory might look: > > -r--r--r-- 1 root ftp 15 Dec 18 10:38 group > -r--r--r-- 1 root ftp 40960 Dec 18 19:14 pwd.db > > 4. Make sure you copy /bin/ls into ~ftp/bin, and make it only > executable by everyone (chmod a=x ls). The more paranoid among us will be even more cautious: you don't want people gaining a comprehensive listing of users on your system as easily as downloading the pwd.db file. I do something similar but with a twist: 3. Copy the new pwd.db and group files into ~ftp/etc, and make them both mode 0440. Change owner to "root.daemon". 4. Copy /bin/ls into ~ftp/bin. Change owner to "root.daemon", and change the mode to 2111... Now nobody can access your pwd.db or group files, but ls can, because it is a member of the appropriate group... I know this may seem overly paranoid to people, but you never know what tricks someone might use to gain access to your system, and the lower your profile, the safer you may be... ... Joe ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Joe Greco - Systems Administrator jgreco@ns.sol.net Solaria Public Access UNIX - Milwaukee, WI 414/342-4847 From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 1 09:08:37 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id JAA27626 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 09:08:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from server.tversu.ac.ru (server.tversu.ac.ru [193.233.128.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA27617 for ; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 09:08:28 -0800 (PST) Received: (from ranger@localhost) by server.tversu.ac.ru (8.6.12/8.6.12) id UAA13880 for questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 20:12:18 +0300 Date: Mon, 1 Jan 1996 20:12:18 +0300 From: Sergey Kachanovsky Message-Id: <199601011712.UAA13880@server.tversu.ac.ru> To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: FreeBSD on 4Mb of RAM Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hi there! I want to install FreeBSD 2.1.0-RELEASE or 2.0.5-RELEASE at home, but I have only 4Mb of RAM on my 386dx/40MHz, and I'd like to know, if FreeBSD will run on such machine with only 4Mb of RAM. Please tell me, what's the lowest limit of memory on PC for running FreeBSD. Thank you in advance. Best regards, Sergey Kachanovsky. PS. Happy New Year, guys! From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 1 09:59:01 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id JAA29297 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 09:59:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from freebsd.netcom.com (freebsd.netcom.com [198.211.79.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA29292 for ; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 09:58:58 -0800 (PST) Received: by freebsd.netcom.com (8.6.12/SMI-4.1) id MAA04230; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 12:04:15 -0600 From: bugs@freebsd.netcom.com (Mark Hittinger) Message-Id: <199601011804.MAA04230@freebsd.netcom.com> Subject: re: FreeBSD on 4mb of ram To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 1 Jan 1996 12:04:09 -0600 (CST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > I want to install FreeBSD 2.1.0-RELEASE or 2.0.5-RELEASE at home, but I have > only 4Mb of RAM on my 386dx/40MHz, and I'd like to know, if FreeBSD will > run on such machine with only 4Mb of RAM. Please tell me, what's the lowest > limit of memory on PC for running FreeBSD. Install support for 4mb comes and goes :-) I used a larger pc at work to build a custom kernel for my 4mb machine at home. If you prune the stuff you don't need there is enough room for about 2.7mb of useable memory on a 4mb machine. Regards, Mark Hittinger Netcom/Dallas bugs@freebsd.netcom.com From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 1 10:08:31 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id KAA00217 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 10:08:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from jbrann.dialup.access.net (jbrann.dialup.access.net [166.84.193.118]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA00208 for ; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 10:08:25 -0800 (PST) Received: (from jbrann@localhost) by jbrann.dialup.access.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) id NAA22246; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 13:12:32 -0500 Message-Id: <199601011812.NAA22246@jbrann.dialup.access.net> Subject: Re: iijpp STILL cannot talk to my modem :-(( To: scouch@io.org (Stephen Couchman) Date: Mon, 1 Jan 1996 13:12:31 -0500 (EST) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199512311930.OAA04321@io.org> from "Stephen Couchman" at Dec 31, 95 02:30:49 pm From: John Brann Organisation: Not while I'm at home X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hi, My sympathy for your trouble, I've been watching this thread for a couple of days now without having anthing to contribute. I hope you aren't getting too frayed by this problem. Stephen Couchman wrote... > > At 01:46 PM 12/31/95 -0500, you wrote: > > [... stuff deleted ...] > > what are the messages when iijppp starts up? > myhost # ppp myisp > User Process PPP. Written by Toshiharu OHNO. > Log level is 0b > Using interface: tun0 > Interactive mode > ppp on myhost> pass myhostpassword > ppp ON myhost> show modem > device: /dev/cuaa1 speed: 1200 [..rest deleted..] ^^^^ Can this be right? Could this be that your modem is not dealing with a 1200 baud signal from your serial port? Try changing the 'set speed' line in your ppp.conf. Sounds trivial - but it's probably a really tiny problem. [... rest deleted ...] > > -- Stephen > > ______________________________ > Stephen Couchman | scouch@io.org > Good luck! John -- Difficult conversations with great figures of history: 4. Ludwig van Beethoven "Hello... Excuse me... HELLO!" From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 1 10:21:51 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id KAA00635 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 10:21:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de [141.76.1.11]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA00607 Mon, 1 Jan 1996 10:21:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from sax.sax.de by irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with ESMTP id TAA04893; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 19:21:38 +0100 Received: by sax.sax.de (8.6.11/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id TAA24520; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 19:21:38 +0100 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.7.3/8.6.9) id SAA05624; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 18:54:03 +0100 (MET) From: J Wunsch Message-Id: <199601011754.SAA05624@uriah.heep.sax.de> Subject: Re: Answer to /bin/ls and ftp (should be documented) To: hackers@FreeBSD.org, questions@FreeBSD.org Date: Mon, 1 Jan 1996 18:54:02 +0100 (MET) In-Reply-To: <199601011606.KAA10803@brasil.moneng.mei.com> from "Joe Greco" at Jan 1, 96 10:06:58 am X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk As Joe Greco wrote: > > The more paranoid among us will be even more cautious: you don't want > people gaining a comprehensive listing of users on your system as easily as > downloading the pwd.db file. I do something similar but with a twist: You could as well install a list of dummy users. -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 1 11:23:22 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id LAA03661 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 11:23:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu (halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu [18.26.0.159]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA03656 for ; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 11:23:19 -0800 (PST) Received: by halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu; (5.65/1.1.8.2/19Aug95-0530PM) id AA12624; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 14:18:17 -0500 Date: Mon, 1 Jan 1996 14:18:17 -0500 From: "Garrett A. Wollman" Message-Id: <9601011918.AA12624@halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu> To: buaas@wireless.wdc.net (Robert A. Buaas) Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: TCP connection prob in 2.1.0-REL In-Reply-To: <199512301250.MAA28941@wireless.wdc.net> References: <199512301250.MAA28941@wireless.wdc.net> Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk < queries work fine from everywhere. Telnets/FTPs/POP3s/etc work fine > EXCEPT from wireless.wdc.net (204.140.136.28) and n1.wdc.net > (204.140.136.18). Go into /etc/sysconfig and turn off `tcp_extensions'. If this fixes it, you have a broken gateway or terminal server which can't deal with TCP options correctly. -GAWollman -- Garrett A. Wollman | Shashish is simple, it's discreet, it's brief. ... wollman@lcs.mit.edu | Shashish is the bonding of hearts in spite of distance. Opinions not those of| It is a bond more powerful than absence. We like people MIT, LCS, ANA, or NSA| who like Shashish. - Claude McKenzie + Florent Vollant From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 1 11:47:20 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id LAA04849 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 11:47:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from nightflight.com (nightflight.com [205.162.141.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA04839 for ; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 11:47:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from laptop.nightflight (laptop [205.162.141.3]) by nightflight.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id LAA17647 for ; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 11:51:22 -0800 Date: Mon, 1 Jan 1996 11:51:22 -0800 Message-Id: <199601011951.LAA17647@nightflight.com> X-Sender: gcrutchr@nightflight.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: questions@freebsd.org From: Gary Crutcher Subject: @.1 Installation on 2nd SCSI drive Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I have a Web site using FreeBSD 2.05. I have a 2nd SCSI drive I just installed. I need to keep my site up and running during the change over to v2.1. I plan on getting the 2.1 CD from Walnut Creek to do this. 1. Is it possible to install v2.1 on the 2nd SCSI drive? 2. If so, how would I go about doing this, and then make the switch over. Each drive has a 2.1 GB capacity. Thanks, Gary Crutcher Webmaster ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Gary Crutcher email: gcrutchr@nightflight.com Webmaster URL: http://www.nightflight.com 'Flights throughout the Internet' voice: 619-631-0666 ----------------------------------------------------------------------  From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 1 12:15:29 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id MAA07538 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 12:15:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu (halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu [18.26.0.159]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA07530 for ; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 12:15:26 -0800 (PST) Received: by halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu; (5.65/1.1.8.2/19Aug95-0530PM) id AA12054; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 15:15:18 -0500 Date: Mon, 1 Jan 1996 15:15:18 -0500 From: "Garrett A. Wollman" Message-Id: <9601012015.AA12054@halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu> To: Barry Masterson Cc: "freebsd.questions" Subject: ppp from shell, & starting X In-Reply-To: References: Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk < said: > Dec 17 08:59:50 /kernel: rtinit: wrong ifa (0xf054e500) was (0xf04dee00) > Dec 18 11:22:24 /kernel: rtinit: wrong ifa (0xf051fe00) was (0xf04dee00) > Dec 28 21:12:12 /kernel: rtinit: wrong ifa (0xf04ebc80) was (0xf04dee00) > Dec 29 17:06:01 /kernel: rtinit: wrong ifa (0xf053f680) was (0xf04dee00) What this message indicates is that there is something wrong with the routing. Specifically: The message occurs when trying to add the route corresponding to a new interface address. One of the steps in adding the route is to use the interface address table to figure out which interface the route should be marked for use with. The message indicates that this calculation came up with a different answer than the interface that is supposed to be represented in the first place, so something is inconsistent in your configuration. -GAWollman -- Garrett A. Wollman | Shashish is simple, it's discreet, it's brief. ... wollman@lcs.mit.edu | Shashish is the bonding of hearts in spite of distance. Opinions not those of| It is a bond more powerful than absence. We like people MIT, LCS, ANA, or NSA| who like Shashish. - Claude McKenzie + Florent Vollant From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 1 12:16:47 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id MAA07648 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 12:16:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu (halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu [18.26.0.159]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA07643 for ; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 12:16:44 -0800 (PST) Received: by halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu; (5.65/1.1.8.2/19Aug95-0530PM) id AA12553; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 15:16:40 -0500 Date: Mon, 1 Jan 1996 15:16:40 -0500 From: "Garrett A. Wollman" Message-Id: <9601012016.AA12553@halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu> To: Robert Nordier Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: PPP glitches In-Reply-To: <199512292225.AAA00287@eac.iafrica.com> References: <199512292225.AAA00287@eac.iafrica.com> Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk < said: > [/etc/hosts] > 127.0.0.0 localhost 127.0.0.1 > 10.0.0.0 eac.iafrica.com eac 10.0.0.1 You can't have a `host-part' that is all-bits-zero; it's reserved for other uses. > [/etc/sysconfig] > ifconfig_tun0="inet eac.iafrica.com 10.0.0.1 netmask 0xffffff00" -GAWollman -- Garrett A. Wollman | Shashish is simple, it's discreet, it's brief. ... wollman@lcs.mit.edu | Shashish is the bonding of hearts in spite of distance. Opinions not those of| It is a bond more powerful than absence. We like people MIT, LCS, ANA, or NSA| who like Shashish. - Claude McKenzie + Florent Vollant From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 1 12:42:09 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id MAA09225 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 12:42:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from Sysiphos (Sysiphos.MI.Uni-Koeln.DE [134.95.212.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA09218 for ; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 12:42:05 -0800 (PST) Received: by Sysiphos id AA18165 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for questions@freebsd.org); Mon, 1 Jan 1996 21:41:56 +0100 Message-Id: <199601012041.AA18165@Sysiphos> From: se@zpr.uni-koeln.de (Stefan Esser) Date: Mon, 1 Jan 1996 21:41:55 +0100 In-Reply-To: Alex Kluev "Re: Adaptec 294x problem" (Dec 30, 15:41) X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.6 alpha(2) 7/9/95) To: Alex Kluev Subject: Re: Adaptec 294x problem Cc: questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Dec 30, 15:41, Alex Kluev wrote: } Subject: Re: Adaptec 294x problem } OK, here comes two verbose boot logs. First one is GENERIC, second one is } a fixed kernel. Sorry, the AHA board was taken from me, but I will get it } back after the NewYear's celebrations. } } I hope this will help. Thanks! } pcibus_setup(1): mode1res=0x8000000c (0x80000000), mode2res=0x0c (0x0e) Yes, this is a know buggy chip set ... But they seem to have broken it even more by now! } pcibus_setup(1): mode1res=0x8000000c (0x80000000), mode2res=0x0c (0x0c) } pcibus_setup(2): mode1res=0x00000000 (0x80000000) } pcibus_setup(3): mode1res=0x80000000 (0xff000001) } pcibus_check: device 0 is there (id=20000e11) } Probing for devices on the PCI bus: } configuration mode 1 allows 32 devices. } pci0:0: Compaq, device=0x2000, class=old (misc) [no driver assigned] The fix I put in before was for the Compaq chip set with device ID 0x1000, and this one behaves different even again. But the code in FreeBSD-current does know how to deal with them ... Your proposed fix is in fact only working by accident. The 0x0e is for Configuration Mode 2 detecion, while the Compaq uses Mode 1. By changing the 0x0e into 0x0c, you make the Mode 2 test succeed, but later Mode 1 is (correctly) used to access the PCI configuration space anyway. You can of course use the kernel with your patch on the Compaq, but the better solution would be to use /sys/i386/isa/pcibus.c from FreeBSD-current, since that file contains a new and improved probe code ... Regards, STefan -- Stefan Esser, Zentrum fuer Paralleles Rechnen Tel: +49 221 4706021 Universitaet zu Koeln, Weyertal 80, 50931 Koeln FAX: +49 221 4705160 ============================================================================== http://www.zpr.uni-koeln.de/~se From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 1 13:16:55 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id NAA10759 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 13:16:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from Aspen.Woc.Atinc.COM ([198.138.38.205]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA10752 for ; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 13:16:49 -0800 (PST) Received: (from jmb@localhost) by Aspen.Woc.Atinc.COM (8.6.12/8.6.9) id QAA28615; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 16:16:08 -0500 Date: Mon, 1 Jan 1996 16:16:07 -0500 (EST) From: "Jonathan M. Bresler" X-Sender: jmb@Aspen.Woc.Atinc.COM To: Gary Crutcher cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: @.1 Installation on 2nd SCSI drive In-Reply-To: <199601011951.LAA17647@nightflight.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 1 Jan 1996, Gary Crutcher wrote: > I have a Web site using FreeBSD 2.05. I have a 2nd SCSI drive I just installed. > I need to keep my site up and running during the change over to v2.1. I plan > on getting the 2.1 CD from Walnut Creek to do this. WAIT...there was/is a bug in the sysinstall that will/can remove the disklabel from the first scsi drive. either jordan or poul has the answer. just hang in there a little while longer ;) > 1. Is it possible to install v2.1 on the 2nd SCSI drive? > > 2. If so, how would I go about doing this, and then make the switch over. > Each drive has a 2.1 GB capacity. Jonathan M. Bresler FreeBSD Postmaster jmb@FreeBSD.ORG play go. ride bike. hack FreeBSD.--ah the good life i am moving to a new job. PLEASE USE: jmb@FreeBSD.ORG From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 1 14:17:08 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id OAA12858 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 14:17:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from tick.SSEC.WISC.EDU (tick.ssec.wisc.edu [144.92.108.121]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA12853 for ; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 14:17:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from tick.SSEC.WISC.EDU (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tick.SSEC.WISC.EDU (8.7.1/8.7.1) with ESMTP id QAA19302 for ; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 16:17:01 -0600 (CST) From: Dave Glowacki Message-Id: <199601012217.QAA19302@tick.SSEC.WISC.EDU> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: CD interface Date: Mon, 01 Jan 1996 16:17:01 -0600 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I'm trying to bring up xmcd on FreeBSD 2.1.0-RELEASE. By default, it tries to use /dev/rcd0c to communicate with the drive, but that results in a bunch of "SCIOCCOMMAND ioctl failed: Permission denied" messages (even when running as root). According to the cd(4) man page: In addition the general scsi(4) ioctls may be used with the cd driver, if used against the fourth (raw/whole disk) partiton. (e.g. rcd0d) but after creating /dev/rsd0d with "mknod rcd0d c 15 3" and reconfiguring xmcd, I get "Cannot open /dev/rcd0d: errno=6" Does anybody have this working with 2.1.0? From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 1 14:23:02 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id OAA13079 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 14:23:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from tulpi.interconnect.com.au (root@tulpi.interconnect.com.au [192.189.54.18]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA13073 for ; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 14:22:55 -0800 (PST) Received: (from ahill@localhost) by tulpi.interconnect.com.au id JAA20051 (8.6.11/IDA-1.6); Tue, 2 Jan 1996 09:22:38 +1100 Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 09:22:34 +1100 (EST) From: Anthony Hill To: Owen Newnan cc: questions about FreeBSD Subject: Re: HTML & ATAPI part 3 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On 28 Dec 1995, Owen Newnan wrote: > So I need a work around installing packages by way of DOS. Needed is a > utility that takes a package subtree copied over from DOS and applies the > tables, restoring the long file names. Does such a thing exist? Otherwise, > I'll write one. I think you are going about this the hard way. The wcarchive ftp site supports tarring of subdirectories on the fly. (or at least it used to) You just append something like .tar.Z to the end of the subdir name when you do a get, and you should get the whole tree. Anthony From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 1 14:27:03 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id OAA13206 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 14:27:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from beaver.cs.washington.edu (beaver.cs.washington.edu [128.95.1.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA13200 for ; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 14:26:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from tera.com (tera.com [128.95.3.1]) by beaver.cs.washington.edu (8.7.2/7.1be+) with SMTP id OAA21947; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 14:26:44 -0800 (PST) Received: by tera.com (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AA02267; Mon, 1 Jan 96 14:25:42 PST From: kline@tera.com (Gary Kline) Message-Id: <9601012225.AA02267@tera.com> Subject: Re: ppp from shell, & starting X To: wollman@lcs.mit.edu (Garrett A. Wollman) Date: Mon, 1 Jan 1996 14:25:41 -0800 (PST) Cc: jbarrm@panix.com, questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <9601012015.AA12054@halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu> from "Garrett A. Wollman" at Jan 1, 96 03:15:18 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk According to Garrett A. Wollman: > > < said: > > > Dec 17 08:59:50 /kernel: rtinit: wrong ifa (0xf054e500) was (0xf04dee00) > > Dec 18 11:22:24 /kernel: rtinit: wrong ifa (0xf051fe00) was (0xf04dee00) > > Dec 28 21:12:12 /kernel: rtinit: wrong ifa (0xf04ebc80) was (0xf04dee00) > > Dec 29 17:06:01 /kernel: rtinit: wrong ifa (0xf053f680) was (0xf04dee00) > > What this message indicates is that there is something wrong with the > routing. Specifically: > > The message occurs when trying to add the route corresponding to a new > interface address. One of the steps in adding the route is to use the > interface address table to figure out which interface the route should > be marked for use with. The message indicates that this calculation > came up with a different answer than the interface that is supposed to > be represented in the first place, so something is inconsistent in > your configuration. > You've shined some light on this, thanks. I was running into the above problem last week with ppp. I found the source of the error message and changed my /etc/hosts table; and my /etc/sysconfig file as well. It was a few days before I tried ppp and discovered that things were hosed! Long-story-short, after further hacking, I fixed at least part of what was wrong. (( Not entirely clear how...but I'm learning.)) Could you (or another network-savvy wizard) publish sample /etc/hosts, /etc/sysconfig, and /etc/network files? Else point me to a tutorial doc? ...Your second message gave me further/other clues: > [/etc/hosts] > 127.0.0.0 localhost 127.0.0.1 > 10.0.0.0 eac.iafrica.com eac 10.0.0.1 You can't have a `host-part' that is all-bits-zero; it's reserved for other uses. > [/etc/sysconfig] > ifconfig_tun0="inet eac.iafrica.com 10.0.0.1 netmask 0xffffff00" In my /etc/hosts I've got 127.0.0.1 localhost localhost.thought.org 128.95.3.70 tao.thought.org tao to indicate that for my *local* site (a fake network for now), I am 127.0.0.1, and when I am connected via SLIP or PPP to the net, I become 128.95.3.70. Is this correct? or, more to the point, will this configuration make sense to my FreeBSD software and work otherwise?? Thanks for any words of wisdom! gary kline > From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 1 14:51:32 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id OAA14246 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 14:51:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from eac.iafrica.com (slipper119225.iafrica.com [196.7.119.225]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA14226 for ; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 14:51:27 -0800 (PST) Received: (from rnordier@localhost) by eac.iafrica.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id AAA00368; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 00:50:46 +0200 From: Robert Nordier Message-Id: <199601012250.AAA00368@eac.iafrica.com> Subject: Re: PPP glitches To: wollman@lcs.mit.edu (Garrett A. Wollman) Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 00:50:44 +0200 (SAT) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <9601012016.AA12553@halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu> from "Garrett A. Wollman" at Jan 1, 96 03:16:40 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8a] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On 1 Jan 1996, Garrett A. Wollman wrote: > > > [/etc/hosts] > > 127.0.0.0 localhost > 127.0.0.1 > > 10.0.0.0 eac.iafrica.com eac > 10.0.0.1 > > You can't have a `host-part' that is all-bits-zero; it's reserved for > other uses. Thanks for the advice. I put in the changes, though they haven't done anything for the "SIOCAIFADDR" or "wrong ifa" problems, worse luck. Do you -- or does anyone -- happen to know the exact setup to use with iij-ppp where addresses on both side are dynamically assigned? (This must be quite common, I would have thought.) Everything always works OK for the first session. But unfortunately neither 'route delete' nor 'route flush' set everything back to the same state as before a connection was made. -- Robert Nordier From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 1 15:48:43 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id PAA16828 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 15:48:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from zork.tiac.net (zork.tiac.net [199.0.65.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA16822 for ; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 15:48:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from momcat.swaa.com (tarbet.tiac.net [199.3.140.106]) by zork.tiac.net (8.6.9/8.6.6.Beta9) with SMTP id SAA21092; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 18:50:06 -0500 Message-ID: Priority: Normal To: fbsd MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Margaret Tarbet Subject: 2.1 install problem Date: Mon, 01 Jan 96 18:52:23 EST Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; X-MAPIextension=".TXT" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hi... Got my copy of the 2.1 cd and tried to install it on my dev machine. Didn't work. The (novice) install appeared to go successfully, but my dos boot block was clobbered without obviously being replaced by the bsd boot. After i fixed the boot block so that dos would run again, i tried the install again, same result. In both cases, because i want to use System Commander to manage the boot selection, i chose to have a simple boot block installed rather than the bsd boot manager. That shouldn't be significant, but y'never know. My system has an AIR 486/66 EISA/VLB mamaboard with 32Mb of 60ns, 256K cache, and an Adaptec 2742 SCSI card with 2x 1Gb Micropolises (devs 0 and 1), 2x 1GB Fujitsus (devs 2 and 3), an old 200Mb Connor (dev 4), a Archive Viper 250Mb tape drive (dev 5) (what makes that a "known rogue" btw?), and hanging off the back of the bus, a NEC 3x cdrom (dev 6). Device 0 has DOS 6.2.2 and Unixware 2.0, managed by System Commander. Device 1 continues with an extended DOS part and a Unixware part. Device 2 has an extended DOS part in the front half, and the back half is where i attempted to install fbsd. Device 3 is dedicated to DOS, and device 4 to Unixware. Far's i can tell, source to the installer isn't included so i'm pretty much on the beach with this. Any ideas? This next bit is an offer of help rather than the foregoing request for same, so it might just confuse things here, in which case i hope someone will say so i can send it on to a better address: I'd like to help with the project, if there's any perceived need for my field of expertise which is product usability/human factors/ergonomics/whatever. Unlike most folk in this field, i'm also a techie, tho as you might suppose i prefer working up at the human end of the food chain rather than at the kernal-and-device-driver level. I was moved to volunteer by the problems i still had with the install even tho it has clearly had a large amount of good energy and thought go into it. Two quick examples: selecting an exclusive option (e.g., which device to install to) requires two steps (arrow-keying to the right line, pressing space). But it is quite easy (as i myself discovered!) to make the move and then hit return...which doesn't alter the existing selection even tho it "feels" as tho it should. Which brings up the second example: there's no clean way to recover from such a mistake. It is possible to recover by patiently defaulting through the rest of the choices and then re-starting from scratch, but it would be quite nice not to have to do that. Let me know if it feels like my sort of expertise might be welcome. regards, =margaret From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 1 16:09:48 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id QAA17268 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 16:09:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from hda.com (hda.com [199.232.40.182]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA17263 for ; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 16:09:43 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dufault@localhost) by hda.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id TAA28569; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 19:24:07 -0500 From: Peter Dufault Message-Id: <199601020024.TAA28569@hda.com> Subject: Re: CD interface To: dglo@SSEC.WISC.EDU (Dave Glowacki) Date: Mon, 1 Jan 1996 19:24:07 -0500 (EST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199601012217.QAA19302@tick.SSEC.WISC.EDU> from "Dave Glowacki" at Jan 1, 96 04:17:01 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > > I'm trying to bring up xmcd on FreeBSD 2.1.0-RELEASE. By default, it tries > to use /dev/rcd0c to communicate with the drive, but that results in a > bunch of "SCIOCCOMMAND ioctl failed: Permission denied" messages (even when > running as root). > > According to the cd(4) man page: > > In addition the general scsi(4) ioctls may be used with the cd > driver, if used against the fourth (raw/whole disk) partiton. > (e.g. rcd0d) > > but after creating /dev/rsd0d with "mknod rcd0d c 15 3" and reconfiguring > xmcd, I get "Cannot open /dev/rcd0d: errno=6" > > Does anybody have this working with 2.1.0? Might this be an older version of xmcd that opens the device read only? I think it was patched at some point to open it read/write. To use the generic scsi calls you need to open the device read/write. -- Peter Dufault Real Time Machine Control and Simulation HD Associates, Inc. Voice: 508 433 6936 dufault@hda.com Fax: 508 433 5267 From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 1 16:38:25 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id QAA17901 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 16:38:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA17889 for ; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 16:38:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) id LAA02514; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 11:08:31 +1030 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199601020038.LAA02514@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: 2.1 install problem To: tarbet@swaa.com (Margaret Tarbet) Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 11:08:31 +1030 (CST) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Margaret Tarbet" at Jan 1, 96 06:52:23 pm MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Margaret Tarbet stands accused of saying: > Got my copy of the 2.1 cd and tried to install it on my dev > machine. Didn't work. The (novice) install appeared to go > successfully, but my dos boot block was clobbered without > obviously being replaced by the bsd boot. After i fixed the In context, it's more likely that the bootblock was replaced with a vanilla bootblock that pointed to the BSD slice. > boot block so that dos would run again, i tried the install > again, same result. In both cases, because i want to use > System Commander to manage the boot selection, i chose to > have a simple boot block installed rather than the bsd boot > manager. That shouldn't be significant, but y'never know. It is; you shouldn't be installing any bootblock at all, as it will override your current (I presume "System Commander") bootblock, which is not what you want. > Micropolises (devs 0 and 1), 2x 1GB Fujitsus (devs 2 and Micropoli? 8) > 3), an old 200Mb Connor (dev 4), a Archive Viper 250Mb tape > drive (dev 5) (what makes that a "known rogue" btw?), and It deviates from the SCSI spec, requiring special handling. > Device 0 has DOS 6.2.2 and Unixware 2.0, managed by System > Commander. Device 1 continues with an extended DOS part and > a Unixware part. Device 2 has an extended DOS part in the > front half, and the back half is where i attempted to > install fbsd. Device 3 is dedicated to DOS, and device 4 > to Unixware. Unless you have a hoopy BIOS here, you're SOL; booting from anything other than the first two disks is more or less impossible under the PC-AT BIOS model. If you shrink the DOS partition on the first disk by about 50M you can put a BSD root filesystem there and then mount from the third. > Far's i can tell, source to the installer isn't included so > i'm pretty much on the beach with this. Any ideas? /usr/src/release/* > I'd like to help with the project, if there's any perceived > need for my field of expertise which is product > usability/human factors/ergonomics/whatever. Unlike most > folk in this field, i'm also a techie, tho as you might > suppose i prefer working up at the human end of the food > chain rather than at the kernal-and-device-driver level. I You should get in touch with Frank Durda (bsdmail@nemesis.lonestar.org); this is one of his fields too, and I'd wager the two of you can offer an awful lot in the way of suggestions that would help us human-hostile programmers 8) > =margaret -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] "Who does BSD?" "We do Chucky, we do." [[ From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 1 16:39:11 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id QAA17931 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 16:39:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from parody.tecc.co.uk (parody.tecc.co.uk [193.128.6.83]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA17926 for ; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 16:39:07 -0800 (PST) Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by parody.tecc.co.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id MAA00230; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 12:12:26 GMT Date: Sat, 30 Dec 1995 12:12:26 +0000 () From: James Raynard To: steve hovey cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 2.1R nfs In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 28 Dec 1995, steve hovey wrote: > If I try to use nfs with 2.1R (unlike 2.0.5 or 2.0) it complains that > there is now /var/something/mountdb Do you mean there is no /var/db/mountdtab? (Please try and be as precise as you can when reporting error messages). If so, it's due to a typo in the 2.1 installation program - it creates a file called mountdbtab instead of mountdtab. Just do (as root) # su bin # cd /var/db # mv mountdbtab mountdtab # exit James Segmentation fault (core dumped): cannot find file '.signature' From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 1 16:39:28 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id QAA17967 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 16:39:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from parody.tecc.co.uk (parody.tecc.co.uk [193.128.6.83]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA17953 for ; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 16:39:23 -0800 (PST) Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by parody.tecc.co.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id MAA00263; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 12:23:33 GMT Date: Sat, 30 Dec 1995 12:23:33 +0000 () From: James Raynard To: Kevin McQuiggin cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problem with NCSA httpd v1.5 In-Reply-To: <199512281801.KAA22136@ferrari.sfu.ca> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 28 Dec 1995, Kevin McQuiggin wrote: > I have a very minor problem with NCSA httpd 1.5 running on FBSD 2.1: > > When I run a cgi program written in C (as opposed to a shell script), and > that program uses environment variables (such as SERVER_PORT or > CONTENT_LENGTH) that should be set by httpd prior to doing an execve, the > environment variables get lost and are NOT set by the time my program is > invoked. Calls to getenv() return NULL for all of these variables. Do any of the test programs supplied in cgi-src work? James Segmentation fault (core dumped): cannot find file '.signature' From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 1 16:39:57 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id QAA18019 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 16:39:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from parody.tecc.co.uk (parody.tecc.co.uk [193.128.6.83]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA18012 for ; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 16:39:53 -0800 (PST) Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by parody.tecc.co.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id LAA00210; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 11:59:04 GMT Date: Sat, 30 Dec 1995 11:59:04 +0000 () From: James Raynard To: mitch@bighorn.accessnv.com cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Installing from dos part or CD In-Reply-To: <199512280943.BAA12389@bighorn.accessnv.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 29 Dec 1995 mitch@bighorn.accessnv.com wrote: > I xcopied the files from e:\dist\bin to my c:\freebsd. I actually > copied the whole dist's to my C: drive because I have enough free > space on C:. I then proceeded to copy the floppies directory and I > also made a bootable floppy. When I ran the install program and said > the media type was from dos partition, it would create my new > partitions but it could not find the boot mirror from the dos > partition or from the floppy I had made. The install program expects to find the distfiles in the same directories as on the CD's, ie in c:\freebsd\bin, c:\freebsd\src, etc. (I think this is mentioned in the instructions somewhere). James Segmentation fault (core dumped): cannot find file '.signature' From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 1 16:40:19 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id QAA18107 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 16:40:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from parody.tecc.co.uk (parody.tecc.co.uk [193.128.6.83]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA18102 for ; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 16:40:15 -0800 (PST) Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by parody.tecc.co.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id MAA00256; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 12:21:34 GMT Date: Sat, 30 Dec 1995 12:21:33 +0000 () From: James Raynard To: Bob Willcox cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: Setting up a gateway machine? In-Reply-To: <199512281809.MAA15982@luke.pmr.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On Thu, 28 Dec 1995, Bob Willcox wrote: > I am trying to setup one of my systems to serve as a gateway machine > between two ethernet networks. (Note: I am, relatively, a netorking > novice :-() I have built the kernel with the "GATEWAY" option, > but obviously have to do more than just that. (Since it still will > not forward packets from one network to the other). The (to be) > gateway machine can talk to systems on both networks, it just > doesn't seem to want to do the forwarding Apparently the GATEWAY option is deprecated. If you're running 2.1, just edit /etc/sysconfig and change the gateway line from NO to YES. For earlier versions, there's a sysctl command - 'man sysctl' will give the details. James Segmentation fault (core dumped): cannot find file '.signature' From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 1 16:40:32 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id QAA18139 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 16:40:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from parody.tecc.co.uk (parody.tecc.co.uk [193.128.6.83]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA18128 for ; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 16:40:27 -0800 (PST) Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by parody.tecc.co.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id LAA00194; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 11:43:53 GMT Date: Sat, 30 Dec 1995 11:43:52 +0000 () From: James Raynard To: Mark Stout cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Config error w/-current In-Reply-To: <199512271841.SAA02561@spunky.vpm.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 27 Dec 1995, Mark Stout wrote: > First, I've downloaded all of -current 'src' files. I've backed up my > original files so I can replace them if need be. When I do a config > I get the following error: > > Unknown % construct in generic makefile: %SFILES > > Looking at the Makefile.i386, I see %SFILES, along with some others. Is this > caused by some option I selected in my kernel config file? Apparently you need to rebuild the config utility before you do anything else. > That may be beyond the scope of this mailing list, I don't know. Yes, the freebsd-currrent list is the one you want. > So, there you have it. I definately *need* BSDI v2.0 compatibility and I'm > only going to get that with -current. So now you know why I need to get > -current up and running. Any help would be appreciated. Unless you're really desperate for it, it might be better to wait until things have settled down a bit and the first snapshot comes out. I've thought a bit about getting involved with -current, but it looks like a lot of work even getting started, not to mention the risk of running alpha (or even pre-alpha) code on a machine that I need for other things, and I don't really have the time (or the backups!) for it. Also I'm stuck with a 14.4k modem, on the wrong side of the Atlantic. One day, perhaps. On the other hand, if you do have the time and the inclination, you seem to know what you're letting yourself in for, so why not go for it! Good luck James Segmentation fault (core dumped): cannot find file '.signature' From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 1 16:42:56 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id QAA18237 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 16:42:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from crash.ops.neosoft.com (root@crash.ops.NeoSoft.COM [206.109.4.50]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA18232 for ; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 16:42:53 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dbaker@localhost) by crash.ops.neosoft.com (8.6.12/8.6.10) id SAA24121 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 18:44:21 -0600 From: Daniel Baker Message-Id: <199601020044.SAA24121@crash.ops.neosoft.com> Subject: AMD Chips & FreeBSD To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 1 Jan 1996 18:44:20 -0600 (CST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8b] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I'm thinking about buying a new machine that has an AMD 486-100 DX4 chip, and I'm wondering if anyone has had any problems running on an AMD chip, or if there is anything special needed in the kernel configuration, etc. Thanks -- dbaker@neosoft.com - Daniel Baker - FTP & UseNet Admin - Neosoft, Inc. Any opinions expressed are mine. From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 1 16:43:23 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id QAA18270 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 16:43:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA18256 for ; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 16:43:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) id LAA02529; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 11:13:46 +1030 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199601020043.LAA02529@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: Installation Problem To: ANDRSN@HOOVER.STANFORD.EDU (Annelise Anderson) Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 11:13:46 +1030 (CST) Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <01HZD0H2U80I008RES@HOOVER.STANFORD.EDU> from "Annelise Anderson" at Dec 29, 95 01:11:24 am MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Annelise Anderson stands accused of saying: > > I installed (or I think I did) FreeBSD 2.1 from the cdrom, on a second > SCSI hard drive. OS2's boot manager (along with DOS/WIN 3.1) was on the > first SCSI hd. Argh. There's a known (now) bug in the 2.1 sysinstall that may trash the bootblock on the first disk when installing to the second. You will want to get a copy of the bootinst.exe and boot.bin files off the CD and use bootinst to write boot.bin (the BootEasy bootmanager) to the first disk. You can replace booteasy at a later date with a 'standard' MBR after this works. > Would anyone know what "no rom basic" means and how I can fix this? It means that the BIOS has searched for a bootable disk and not found one. About fifteen years ago, the original PCs had BASIC in ROM (IBM and close compactibles only) and if they had no boot disk, would start the (braindead) ROM BASIC. Less close compatibles would search for the BASIC ROM and emit the above error message (in 40x25 text mode) if they couldn't find it. The existence of the message in this day and age is either a joke on the part of the BIOS authors, or an attempt at "maximum" compatability. > Annelise -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] "Who does BSD?" "We do Chucky, we do." [[ From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 1 16:55:50 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id QAA18607 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 16:55:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA18593 for ; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 16:55:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) id LAA02566; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 11:26:14 +1030 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199601020056.LAA02566@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: More info on install problem To: DGY@hillae.com (Yankura David) Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 11:26:14 +1030 (CST) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Yankura David" at Dec 29, 95 11:48:08 am MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Yankura David stands accused of saying: > This process creates a freebsd partition @ offset 57, size > 485298, named sd1s1 w/flag "C" > > I then execute option "W" to save these changes. Please, follow the release notes. Read the online help. Pay particular attention to this paragraph : NOTE: The (W)rite option is HIGHLY DANGEROUS and should NOT BE USED if you're installing a new system! It's only for use in resurrecting or changing an existing system, and will cause unpredictable things to happen if you use it in any other circumstances. Don't do it! Wait for the final commit dialog if you're express/novice installing, or use the "Commit" menu item if you're custom installing, and do it there. If you are installing from CDROM, please also not the paragraph headed "o Custom Installation" on page vi of the booklet; an excrpt from which reads : "In particular, the (W)rite options in the fidsk and label screens _will_not_work_ for a new installation!..." > If I continue on with the installation I get the error that I > have reported before during the creation of /bin: > > on the console session: "panic: bad dir" > > and on the 2nd screen: "/mnt: bad dir ino 157 at offset 677: > mangled entry" This may or may not be related to the problem above. > dgy@hillae.com -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] "Who does BSD?" "We do Chucky, we do." [[ From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 1 17:02:55 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id RAA18936 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 17:02:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA18930 for ; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 17:02:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) id LAA02587; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 11:33:25 +1030 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199601020103.LAA02587@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: Recommendations for SCSI card? To: handy@condor.physics.montana.edu (Brian Handy) Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 11:33:25 +1030 (CST) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Brian Handy" at Dec 29, 95 10:55:24 am MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Brian Handy stands accused of saying: > These part numbers are lost on me. I've been trying to get an ASUS MB > *and* get the NCR on-board SCSI. I've heard arguments about how the BIOS > won't deal with it and I'll have to boot off a floppy, and (sigh) I even > had a dealer tell me I couldn't do it. Complete crap. All the ASUS motherboards have NCR support in their BIOS. > Now, I wanted 512KB cache w/ Pipeline burst. I don't know if that's > somehow the cause of my problems. No. > To wrap things up...can someone explain to me where I'm completely off in > left field? basically, how do I solve this problem and get a nice MB with > the cheap SCSI interface? If the motherboard has an onboard NCR controller, it will have support for it in the BIOS. _ALL_ ASUS motherboard support the NCR chips either onboard or on the SC200 cards. Many other motherboards have NCR support; Soyo is one other manufacturer that does PBurst motherboards that have NCR support. > Brian -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] "Who does BSD?" "We do Chucky, we do." [[ From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 1 17:10:17 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id RAA19236 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 17:10:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA19230 for ; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 17:10:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) id LAA02624; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 11:40:09 +1030 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199601020110.LAA02624@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: Boot Loader when both IDE and SCSI present. How to Install? To: akyol@wireless.stanford.edu (Bora Akyol) Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 11:40:09 +1030 (CST) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <30E4AF60.41C67EA6@wireless.stanford.edu> from "Bora Akyol" at Dec 29, 95 07:17:52 pm MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Bora Akyol stands accused of saying: > Now I have two IDE drives (one on each controller) and a SCSI > drive and FreeBSD is on my SCSI drive. When I installed FreeBSD > I chose to install the boot manager but that did not work apparently. > Can someone please tell me how to make this boot loader work. > I can now boot FreeBSD via the floppy but that is kind of awkward and > requires me to be very alert. By the way I type hd(2,a)/kernel > at the install floppy boot prompt. I'd guess that you're going to have a very hard time with this combination, depending on what your BIOS does with the second IDE disk. Traditional PC-AT BIOSes will only boot from the first two disks. You may be able to get somewhere using the fbsdboot program and a kernel on a DOS partition. > Bora -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] "Who does BSD?" "We do Chucky, we do." [[ From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 1 17:20:30 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id RAA19690 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 17:20:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA19683 for ; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 17:20:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) id LAA02683; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 11:49:34 +1030 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199601020119.LAA02683@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: weird local HD errors To: olsenc@ichips.intel.com Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 11:49:33 +1030 (CST) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG, jhewitt@uw-isdl.ee.washington.edu, jhp@cypress.com In-Reply-To: <9512310541.AA28004@dtt034.intel.com> from "olsenc@ichips.intel.com" at Dec 30, 95 09:41:46 pm MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk olsenc@ichips.intel.com stands accused of saying: > > > Ok folks, these types of errors caused the eventual demise > of our 2.0.5 installation. I attempted a reboot when the > machine was acting very strangely, and the partition table > ended up getting toasted. Here is a log showing what happened > within 24 hours of our 2.1 install: > > Dec 30 14:50:24 smokey /kernel: wd0a: wdstart: timeout waiting for DRQ writing fsbn 352784 of 352784-352799 (wd0 bn 352784; cn 349 tn 15 sn 47)wd0: status 50 error 0 Yecch. Do you have APM on this machine? > Dec 30 14:50:28 smokey /kernel: wd0: interrupt timeout: > Dec 30 14:50:28 smokey /kernel: wd0: status 50 error 0 > Dec 30 15:02:55 smokey /kernel: stray irq 15 IRQ 15? Do you have any hardware on IRQ15? Is this a PCI machine? Do you have anything on the second IDE channel? > What the hell is going on? It sounds like a hardware problem, but > we NEVER saw any strange behavior when we installed and were busy > compiling ports on the system or beating up the network. Sounds like hardware or config. IRQ 15 is normally assigned to the second IDE controller; I'd be very suspicious. > -Clint -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] "Who does BSD?" "We do Chucky, we do." [[ From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 1 17:25:43 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id RAA19830 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 17:25:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from albion.loach.org (root@loach.org [199.233.190.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA19824 for ; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 17:25:37 -0800 (PST) Received: (from alexei@localhost) by albion.loach.org (8.6.12/8.6.9) id RAA03171 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 17:27:01 GMT From: Alexei Nikolaevich Romanov Message-Id: <199601011727.RAA03171@albion.loach.org> Subject: YP Question To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 1 Jan 1996 17:26:59 +0000 () X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Is there a FreeBSD equivalent of ypinit? I'm more comfortable with plain Sun yp, as that's what I work with at work, but can't quite grasp what to do to get FreeBSD yp ramped up. Pointers to a FAQ or some docs somewhere would be deeply appreciated! --Alexei From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 1 17:28:04 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id RAA19988 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 17:28:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA19927 for ; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 17:27:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) id LAA02721; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 11:57:00 +1030 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199601020127.LAA02721@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: 2.1.0-R install & partitioning 4gb disk problem To: skynyrd@tahoma.cwu.edu (Chris Timmons) Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 11:57:00 +1030 (CST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Chris Timmons" at Dec 31, 95 02:35:29 pm MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Chris Timmons stands accused of saying: > I can create a working 2.1.0 system only so long as I use the 4gb disk as > a single giant partition. I have done this and the system comes up and is > happy with the 4gb drive. I am using 4095/64/32 for the disk geometry on > the micropolis, as suggested by the installation program. > > However, when I use the installation procedure to partition and label the > 4gb disk into multiple slices, I run into trouble as soon as I continue > with the part of the installation which actually writes the labels to the > disks (I am NOT using 'w' from within FDISK!): A question; why would you want to split the 4G disk into multiple partitions? > -Chris A quick check; find the "PCI bus latency timer" option in your BIOS, and make sure it's set to 32 or less. -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] "Who does BSD?" "We do Chucky, we do." [[ From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 1 17:30:50 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id RAA20063 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 17:30:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from ferrari.sfu.ca (ferrari.sfu.ca [142.58.110.11]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA20058 for ; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 17:30:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from gumby.ve7zd.ampr.org ([142.58.14.242]) by ferrari.sfu.ca with SMTP (8.7.1/SFU-2.6H) id RAA10607 (from mcquiggi@sfu.ca); Mon, 1 Jan 1996 17:30:42 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199601020130.RAA10607@ferrari.sfu.ca> X-Sender: mcquiggi@ferrari.sfu.ca X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 01 Jan 1996 17:30:42 -0800 To: James Raynard From: Kevin McQuiggin Subject: Re: Problem with NCSA httpd v1.5 Cc: questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk At 12:23 PM 95.12.30 +0000, you wrote: >On Thu, 28 Dec 1995, Kevin McQuiggin wrote: > >> I have a very minor problem with NCSA httpd 1.5 running on FBSD 2.1: >> >> When I run a cgi program written in C (as opposed to a shell script), and >> that program uses environment variables (such as SERVER_PORT or >> CONTENT_LENGTH) that should be set by httpd prior to doing an execve, the >> environment variables get lost and are NOT set by the time my program is >> invoked. Calls to getenv() return NULL for all of these variables. > >Do any of the test programs supplied in cgi-src work? No, they are broken as well! Kevin --- Kevin McQuiggin VE7ZD mcquiggi@sfu.ca From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 1 17:35:06 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id RAA20324 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 17:35:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from fieber-john.campusview.indiana.edu (Fieber-John.campusview.indiana.edu [149.159.1.34]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA20310 for ; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 17:34:59 -0800 (PST) Received: (from jfieber@localhost) by fieber-john.campusview.indiana.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id UAA01511; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 20:34:57 -0500 Date: Sun, 31 Dec 1995 08:56:25 -0800 Message-Id: <199512311656.IAA28066@ix6.ix.netcom.com> From: tweir@ix.netcom.com (Thomas Weir) Subject: Running Mumps on Free BSD 2.1 To: www@freebsd.org ReSent-Date: Mon, 1 Jan 1996 20:34:52 -0500 (EST) ReSent-From: John Fieber ReSent-To: questions@freebsd.org ReSent-Message-ID: Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Will it work ? We are looking for a unix operating system for the PC to do testing with our current application written in Mumps and to play with. If the product did work what kind of support would we be able to get for any problems we would encounter. -Tom Weir Tweir@ix.netcom.com From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 1 18:03:59 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id SAA21584 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 18:03:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from terra.aros.net (terra.aros.net [205.164.111.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA21579 for ; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 18:03:54 -0800 (PST) Received: (from angio@localhost) by terra.aros.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) id TAA13816 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 19:03:52 -0700 From: Dave Andersen Message-Id: <199601020203.TAA13816@terra.aros.net> Subject: Default gateway To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 1 Jan 1996 19:03:52 -0700 (MST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I have two FreeBSD boxes here (2.1.0 and 2.1.0-SNAP-something), and now and then, they both have a neat habit of forgetting what their default gateway is and being unable to send packets outside of the local ethernet. Is there a quick fix to this? (I have a cron job that runs and resets it, but that seems like a bit of an akward workaround), or is it due to some subtle misconfiguration on my part? The only thing I can think of is that some other host is sending routing information that's not correct, but... er, I don't _think_ that's the case. :) Anyway, any information/guesses/etc would be much appreciated. -Dave Andersen -- angio@aros.net Complete virtual hosting and business-oriented system administration Internet services. (WWW, FTP, email) http://www.aros.net/ http://www.aros.net/about/virtual/ "She totally confused all the passing piranhas" From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 1 18:04:33 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id SAA21711 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 18:04:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from vespucci.iquest.com (vespucci.iquest.com [199.170.120.42]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA21704 for ; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 18:04:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from [204.177.193.231] (n4hhe.ampr.org [204.177.193.231]) by vespucci.iquest.com (8.6.9/8.6.9 Secure) with SMTP id UAA07257 for ; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 20:04:27 -0600 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 1 Jan 1996 20:04:27 -0600 To: questions@freefall.freebsd.org From: dkelly@iquest.com (David Kelly) Subject: Re: HTML & ATAPI part 3 Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Anthony Hill replied >> So I need a work around installing packages by way of DOS. Needed is a >> utility that takes a package subtree copied over from DOS and applies the >> tables, restoring the long file names. Does such a thing exist? Otherwise, >> I'll write one. > >I think you are going about this the hard way. The wcarchive ftp site >supports tarring of subdirectories on the fly. (or at least it used to) >You just append something like .tar.Z to the end of the subdir name when you >do a get, and you should get the whole tree. .tar.Z, .tar.gz, and probably .tgz works as expected. But if you are downloading already-compressed data an additional compress/gzip/whatever is a waste of the host CPU's cycles. Plus the result is likely to be larger than the original. -- David Kelly N4HHE, n4hhe@amsat.org, dkelly@iquest.com ============================================================= To invent, you need a good imagination and a pile of junk. -- Thomas Edison From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 1 18:45:57 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id SAA23225 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 18:45:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from lynx.dac.neu.edu (lynx.dac.neu.edu [129.10.1.14]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA23219 for ; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 18:45:54 -0800 (PST) Received: (from aong@localhost) by lynx.dac.neu.edu (suprise!) id VAA10598 for questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 21:44:54 -0500 From: Andrew Ong Message-Id: <199601020244.VAA10598@lynx.dac.neu.edu> Subject: Newbie Q: How to route mails? To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 1 Jan 1996 21:44:53 -0500 (EST) Department: Faculty of Computer Engineering Organization: Northeastern University, Boston, MA. X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I would appreciate if someone can help in this sendmail config. I'm new at this mail routing stuff. I run a BBS with dailup UUCP mail (userid@domain.org) currently. Recently I have got a Class C address and 56k leased line. I plan to put both the BBS and my Web server/DNS (FreeBSD) onto the net via my router as gateway and forget about UUCP! I have to assign the nodename for the BBS to bbs.domain.org and the nodename for the Web server to www.domain.org. How do I configure sendmail.cf and/or DNS MX record so that my users on the BBS will _NOT_ require to change their email from userid@domain.org to userid@bbs.domain.org? Or in other words, all I need here is to correctly route incoming mails for userid@domain.org to the BBS while mails for userid@www.domain.org to the Web Server? Both the BBS and the Web Server runs SMTP. Thanks in advance. Regards, Andrew From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 1 18:48:23 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id SAA23328 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 18:48:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA23323 for ; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 18:48:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) id NAA03148; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 13:18:52 +1030 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199601020248.NAA03148@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: Default gateway To: angio@aros.net (Dave Andersen) Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 13:18:52 +1030 (CST) Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199601020203.TAA13816@terra.aros.net> from "Dave Andersen" at Jan 1, 96 07:03:52 pm MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Dave Andersen stands accused of saying: > > I have two FreeBSD boxes here (2.1.0 and 2.1.0-SNAP-something), and > now and then, they both have a neat habit of forgetting what their > default gateway is and being unable to send packets outside of the local Turn off gated in /etc/sysconfig. > -Dave Andersen -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] "Who does BSD?" "We do Chucky, we do." [[ From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 1 18:55:35 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id SAA23522 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 18:55:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from bastion.fulcrum.com.au (fulcrum.com.au [203.2.211.248]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA23507 for ; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 18:54:45 -0800 (PST) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by bastion.fulcrum.com.au (8.6.11/8.6.11) with UUCP id NAA22005 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 13:53:25 +1100 Received: from hosaka (hosaka [203.2.211.56]) by fulcrum.com.au (8.6.11/8.6.11) with ESMTP id JAA06866 for ; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 09:47:22 +1100 From: Peter Marelas Received: (maral@localhost) by hosaka (8.6.11/8.6.11) id KAA07984 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 10:48:43 +1100 Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 10:48:43 +1100 Message-Id: <199601012348.KAA07984@hosaka> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk unsubscribe questions-freebsd maral@fulcrum.com.au From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 1 18:57:47 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id SAA23671 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 18:57:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA23663 Mon, 1 Jan 1996 18:57:42 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199601020257.SAA23663@freefall.freebsd.org> X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: Host localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol To: Andrew Ong cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Newbie Q: How to route mails? In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 01 Jan 1996 21:44:53 EST." <199601020244.VAA10598@lynx.dac.neu.edu> Date: Mon, 01 Jan 1996 18:57:42 -0800 From: "Justin T. Gibbs" Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk >How do I configure sendmail.cf and/or DNS MX record so that my users on the >BBS will _NOT_ require to change their email from userid@domain.org to >userid@bbs.domain.org? Or in other words, all I need here is to correctly >route incoming mails for userid@domain.org to the BBS while mails for >userid@www.domain.org to the Web Server? Both the BBS and the Web Server >runs SMTP. Make domain.org a CNAME for bbs.domain.org or, make bbs.domain.org the primary MX record for domain.org. The second option requires that you add a "Cwdomain.org" entry in the sendmail.cf file on the BBS. Pick up some of the Oreily & Assoc. books if you need the details (www.ora.com). >Thanks in advance. > >Regards, >Andrew > > -- Justin T. Gibbs =========================================== FreeBSD: Turning PCs into workstations =========================================== From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 1 19:02:09 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id TAA23908 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 19:02:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from cicerone.uunet.ca (cicerone.uunet.ca [142.77.1.11]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA23902 for ; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 19:02:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from why.whine.com ([142.77.242.18]) by cicerone.uunet.ca with SMTP id <212229-1>; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 22:02:13 -0500 Date: Mon, 1 Jan 1996 22:04:15 -0500 From: Andrew Herdman To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Mounting removable media Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I am having problems mounting my worm drive (it has a controller that makes it to appear to be a removable media hard disk). If the media is not in it when I boot, i cannot mount the disk as I get this error: # mount /dev/sd2a /mnt /dev/sd2a on /mnt: Incorrect super block. the boot up gives this for the device: (bt0:4:0): "Ten X OCU-300S 3.03" type 0 removable SCSI 2 sd2(bt0:4:0): Direct-Access sd2(bt0:4:0): NOT READY asc:4,0 sd2(bt0:4:0): Logical unit not ready, cause not reportable sd2 could not mode sense (4). Using ficticious geometry sd2(bt0:4:0): NOT READY asc:4,0 sd2(bt0:4:0): Logical unit not ready, cause not reportable sd2: could not get size 0MB (0 512 byte sectors) I'm not sure how to get it to mount other than to have the media in the drive which is inconvenient at times. I am running 2.1 CD release. Andrew From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 1 19:02:37 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id TAA23954 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 19:02:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from alpha.xerox.com (alpha.Xerox.COM [13.1.64.93]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA23944 for ; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 19:02:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from gemini.sdsp.mc.xerox.com ([13.231.132.20]) by alpha.xerox.com with SMTP id <15360(1)>; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 19:01:56 PST Received: by gemini.sdsp.mc.xerox.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA21787; Mon, 1 Jan 96 22:02:08 EST Message-Id: <9601020302.AA21787@gemini.sdsp.mc.xerox.com> To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: minor numbers on ide disks? Date: Mon, 1 Jan 1996 19:02:07 PST From: "Marty Leisner" Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I want to swap on to wd0s6 (an extended partition) shown as: wd0s1: type 0x6, start 63, end = 1137023, size 1136961 : OK wd0s2: type 0x5, start 1137024, end = 1753919, size 616896 : OK wd0s3: type 0xa5, start 1753920, end = 2261951, size 508032 : OK wd0s5: type 0x83, start 1137087, end = 1447487, size 310401 : OK wd0: type 0x5, start 1447488, end = 1511999, size 64512 : OK wd0s6: type 0x82, start 1447551, end = 1511999, size 64449 : OK How do I construct a device to support this...the standard devices are brw-r----- 1 root operator 0, 131074 Dec 29 20:18 /dev/wd0s1 brw-r----- 1 root operator 0, 196610 Dec 29 20:18 /dev/wd0s2 brw-r----- 1 root operator 0, 262146 Dec 29 20:19 /dev/wd0s3 brw-r----- 1 root operator 0, 262144 Dec 29 20:19 /dev/wd0s3a brw-r----- 1 root operator 0, 262145 Dec 29 20:19 /dev/wd0s3b brw-r----- 1 root operator 0, 262146 Dec 29 20:19 /dev/wd0s3c brw-r----- 1 root operator 0, 262147 Dec 29 20:19 /dev/wd0s3d brw-r----- 1 root operator 0, 262148 Dec 29 20:19 /dev/wd0s3e brw-r----- 1 root operator 0, 262149 Dec 29 20:19 /dev/wd0s3f brw-r----- 1 root operator 0, 262150 Dec 29 20:19 /dev/wd0s3g brw-r----- 1 root operator 0, 262151 Dec 29 20:19 /dev/wd0s3h brw-r----- 1 root operator 0, 327682 Dec 29 20:18 /dev/wd0s4 bash$ dmesg | grep wd0 wdc0: unit 0 (wd0): Happy new year... marty leisner@sdsp.mc.xerox.com Member of the League for Programming Freedom (http://www.lpf.org) Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic Arthur C. Clarke, The Lost Worlds of 2001 From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 1 19:05:03 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id TAA24064 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 19:05:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from brasil.moneng.mei.com (brasil.moneng.mei.com [151.186.109.160]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA24050 Mon, 1 Jan 1996 19:04:56 -0800 (PST) Received: (from jgreco@localhost) by brasil.moneng.mei.com (8.7.Beta.1/8.7.Beta.1) id VAA11207; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 21:04:20 -0600 From: Joe Greco Message-Id: <199601020304.VAA11207@brasil.moneng.mei.com> Subject: Re: Answer to /bin/ls and ftp (should be documented) To: j@uriah.heep.sax.de (J Wunsch) Date: Mon, 1 Jan 1996 21:04:19 -0600 (CST) Cc: hackers@FreeBSD.org, questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <199601011754.SAA05624@uriah.heep.sax.de> from "J Wunsch" at Jan 1, 96 06:54:02 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > As Joe Greco wrote: > > > > The more paranoid among us will be even more cautious: you don't want > > people gaining a comprehensive listing of users on your system as easily as > > downloading the pwd.db file. I do something similar but with a twist: > > You could as well install a list of dummy users. Then you might as well not do it at all (or make 'em all "ftp"). Usually people want to display the usernames in order to provide an easy to see correlation between a file and which archive maintainer installed it... My technique at least minimizes the chances of somebody finding out complete lists of semi-useful information about users (i.e. what users there are), and also protects more subtle very-useful information about things like assigned UID's (think: "someone pulling tricks with NFS"). First rule of security, the less they know, the safer you are. ... Joe ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Joe Greco - Systems Administrator jgreco@ns.sol.net Solaria Public Access UNIX - Milwaukee, WI 414/342-4847 From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 1 19:30:26 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id TAA25039 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 19:30:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from ivory.lm.com (ivory.lm.com [192.231.221.9]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA25033 for ; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 19:30:22 -0800 (PST) Received: (from peterb@localhost) by ivory.lm.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id WAA16166; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 22:30:22 -0500 Date: Mon, 1 Jan 1996 22:30:21 -0500 (EST) From: Peter Berger X-Sender: peterb@ivory.lm.com To: Dave Glowacki cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: CD interface In-Reply-To: <199601012217.QAA19302@tick.SSEC.WISC.EDU> Message-ID: X-Mentos: The Freshmaker! X-Request-Do: resolve MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk This is a bug in either the documentation for ioctl or the scsi driver. The documentation does not indicate that EACCESS is a valid return value for ioctl. My hackaround was this: at line 263 of /sys/scsi/scsi_ioctl.c, add an #ifndef.... #ifndef XMCDKLUDGE if (cmd != SCIOCIDENTIFY && !(flags & FWRITE)) return EACCES; #endif /* XMCDKLUDGE */ and, obviously include options XMCDKLUDGE in your kernel config file. The "correct" way to fix this is not to hack the kernel but to recompile xmcd so that it doesn't mount the cd read-only; but I don't have motif sources so that's not an option. Note that the xmcd package -WILL NOT WORK ON 2.1 SYSTEMS- as distributed, because of this. Why is scsi_ioctl.c returning EACCESS in this case? Is there a rationale for it? It just seems like a check without a problem.... On Mon, 1 Jan 1996, Dave Glowacki wrote: > I'm trying to bring up xmcd on FreeBSD 2.1.0-RELEASE. By default, it tries > to use /dev/rcd0c to communicate with the drive, but that results in a > bunch of "SCIOCCOMMAND ioctl failed: Permission denied" messages (even when > running as root). > > According to the cd(4) man page: > > In addition the general scsi(4) ioctls may be used with the cd > driver, if used against the fourth (raw/whole disk) partiton. > (e.g. rcd0d) > > but after creating /dev/rsd0d with "mknod rcd0d c 15 3" and reconfiguring > xmcd, I get "Cannot open /dev/rcd0d: errno=6" > > Does anybody have this working with 2.1.0? > "The law locks up both man and woman/Who steals the goose from off the common But lets the greater felon loose/Who steals the common from the goose." -anon ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Peter Berger - peterb@telerama.lm.com - http://www.lm.com/~peterb From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 1 19:52:17 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id TAA26282 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 19:52:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts14-line16.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.182]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA26268 for ; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 19:52:06 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id TAA00416; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 19:52:13 -0800 Date: Mon, 1 Jan 1996 19:52:13 -0800 (PST) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Margaret Tarbet cc: fbsd Subject: Re: 2.1 install problem In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 1 Jan 1996, Margaret Tarbet wrote: > again, same result. In both cases, because i want to use > System Commander to manage the boot selection, i chose to > have a simple boot block installed rather than the bsd boot > manager. That shouldn't be significant, but y'never know. OK, then, you DON'T want to even *touch* the MBR, so make that selection. Then configure syscommander with your new bsd partition. You might try booting using the install floppy and giving the path to the new disk, ie boot: sd0(0,a)/kernel or whatever is appropriate. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@gladstone.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 1 19:52:24 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id TAA26305 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 19:52:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from io.org (io.org [142.77.70.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA26283 Mon, 1 Jan 1996 19:52:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.io.org (dyna-20.net7d.io.org [204.92.51.20]) by io.org (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id WAA09493; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 22:52:04 -0500 Date: Mon, 1 Jan 1996 22:52:04 -0500 Message-Id: <199601020352.WAA09493@io.org> X-Sender: scouch@io.org X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: "Jonathan M. Bresler" From: Stephen Couchman Subject: Re: iijpp STILL cannot talk to my modem :-(( Cc: questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Some more info on this: I tried the stty command on /dev/cuaa1 after trying iij-ppp again, and found that the crtscts and clocal options were now set. I tried this (on another login session) after typing the 'term' command within iij-ppp. It seems that iij-ppp is setting these device options, and that these options are not the problem. So, it looks like I am back at square one, i.e. iij-ppp cannot talk to the modem... -- Stephen Jonathan, At 06:13 PM 12/31/95 -0500, you wrote: > > what you have included looks correct :) > > do you have crtscts enabled on /dev/cuaa1? what about clocal? >please check these by doing 'stty -a /dev/cuaa1'. you have have a getty >running on any of the ttydX ports? Ok, these options are not set, i.e. 'stty -a ; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 19:54:30 -0800 (PST) Received: (from tony@localhost) by hornet.netac.co.za (8.6.12/8.6.12) id FAA12827; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 05:56:49 +0200 From: Tony Harverson Message-Id: <199601020356.FAA12827@hornet.netac.co.za> Subject: Re: Newbie Q: How to route mails? To: aong@lynx.dac.neu.edu (Andrew Ong) Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 05:56:49 +0200 (SAT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199601020244.VAA10598@lynx.dac.neu.edu> from "Andrew Ong" at Jan 1, 96 09:44:53 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > > Hi, Hiya :) > > I would appreciate if someone can help in this sendmail config. I'm new > at this mail routing stuff. This is not sendmail stuff, but dns/MX stuff... > How do I configure sendmail.cf and/or DNS MX record so that my users on the > BBS will _NOT_ require to change their email from userid@domain.org to > userid@bbs.domain.org? Or in other words, all I need here is to correctly > route incoming mails for userid@domain.org to the BBS while mails for > userid@www.domain.org to the Web Server? Both the BBS and the Web Server > runs SMTP. okay, What you need to do is to add an MX entry to your tables (write back if you want an example) that points domain.org to bbs.domain.org. - No change should be nessacary for the www server - if that has a dns entry, that will be used to deliver the mail. Tony From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 1 20:01:10 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id UAA26869 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 20:01:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts14-line16.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.182]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA26858 for ; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 20:01:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id UAA00460; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 20:01:19 -0800 Date: Mon, 1 Jan 1996 20:01:19 -0800 (PST) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Robert Nordier cc: "Garrett A. Wollman" , questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: PPP glitches In-Reply-To: <199601012250.AAA00368@eac.iafrica.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On Tue, 2 Jan 1996, Robert Nordier wrote: > Do you -- or does anyone -- happen to know the exact setup to use with > iij-ppp where addresses on both side are dynamically assigned? (This must > be quite common, I would have thought.) I have this situation. I just modified 'simplesite' and left the defaults as they are. Unfortunately, it appears that 'ppp.linkup' isn't functioning...I have a bunch of annoying routes and try to delete them wiht it and nothing happens. I end up su'ing to root, running a script to delete them, then adding a default route for the connection. For example, this is what I get just after connecting: gdi# netstat -rn Routing tables Internet: Destination Gateway Flags Refs Use Netif Expire 127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 UH 1 0 lo0 128.223.150.166 128.223.150.182 UH 6 0 tun0 So I enter 'route add default 128.223.150.166' and all is well. > Everything always works OK for the first session. But unfortunately > neither 'route delete' nor 'route flush' set everything back to the same > state as before a connection was made. When I do 'close' in ppp, it deletes the default route just fine. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@gladstone.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 1 20:14:47 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id UAA27618 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 20:14:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from hoover.stanford.edu (hoover.Stanford.EDU [36.33.0.99]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA27613 for ; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 20:14:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from HOOVER.STANFORD.EDU by HOOVER.STANFORD.EDU (PMDF V4.3-10 #13307) id <01HZIBJ6B68G009B4T@HOOVER.STANFORD.EDU>; Mon, 01 Jan 1996 20:15:27 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 01 Jan 1996 20:15:27 -0800 (PST) From: Annelise Anderson Subject: A Few Questions Re: 2.1 To: questions@freebsd.org Message-id: <01HZIBJ6BPIQ009B4T@HOOVER.STANFORD.EDU> X-VMS-To: IN%"questions@freebsd.org" X-VMS-Cc: ANDRSN MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I've just installed 2.1 and am having trouble getting a few things working: 1) The mouse. The mouse is a bus mouse that plugs into an ATI Mach 32 Graphics Ultra Pro card. Start-up messages include mse0 at 0x23c irq 5 on isa. I've tried various mouse protocols in XF86Config (MouseMan, Busmouse, Microsoft). /dev/mouse is linked to mse0. I'm not sure this mouse is really using irq 5; IRQ 5 is used, I think, by the sound-blaster emulation part of the ProAudio Spectrum card. I tried booting with kernel -c and putting mse0 on irq 4. Then I get a message that mse0 is not probed because of a conflict with sio0. A serial mouse, protocol Microsoft, device /dev/ttyd0, on sio0, works, but I'd rather just have one rodent on the desk. 2) The computer hangs up if I try to get a listing of configured devices with lsdev and at some other odd times. 3) The computer does not reboot with /sbin/shutdown -r now. It syncs disks and hangs, requiring a hard reboot. 4) When I try to mount the floppy drives (/sbin/mount -t msdos /dev/fd0 /mnt) I get a message that the device is not configured. Start-up messages indicate that the floppy disk controller is found (fdc0 at 0x3f0-0xdf7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa) but no other messages; all the floppy devices are listed in /dev. The controller is a GSI 11 configured as the primary floppy disk controller. One solved problem--slip seems rather difficult to configure for negotiating IP addresses dynamically, but dip (Dial Internet Provider?) works quite easily. A new port in 2.1, I think. Very nice. Annelise From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 1 21:00:31 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id VAA29125 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 21:00:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from MediaCity.com (root@easy1.mediacity.com [205.216.172.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA29119 for ; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 21:00:29 -0800 (PST) Received: (from brian@localhost) by MediaCity.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id VAA23128 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 21:02:39 -0800 From: Brian Litzinger Message-Id: <199601020502.VAA23128@MediaCity.com> Subject: sorting by character position To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 1 Jan 1996 21:02:39 -0800 (PST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8b] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I'm positive I remember doing this in my pre-BSD days. All I want to do is sort -n -d -k 14,29 sorted where -k 14,29 is supposed to mean that sort is supposed to consider the data in columns 14 - 29 of each line as the key to sort by. However, from my reading of the sort man page, it doesn't seem to have this functionality. However, I remember I used to be able to do this in my SYSV days. Have I missed something? -- Brian Litzinger Powered by FreeBSD http[s]://www.mpress.com speakfree.mpress.com [use -t (GSM)] From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 1 21:03:08 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id VAA29201 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 21:03:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from seldon.terminus.com (seldon.terminus.com [204.182.12.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA29196 for ; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 21:03:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from sm_4.terminus.com by seldon.terminus.com (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/Chill_out) id AA26845; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 21:02:57 -0800 Message-Id: <30E8BC0C.17F5@terminus.com> Date: Mon, 01 Jan 1996 21:01:00 -0800 From: Douglas MacDonald Organization: GeckoGraphics X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0b2 (Windows; I; 32bit) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: neophyte can't install freebsd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Howdy Happy New Year I have FreeBSDv2.0.5 on cdrom from Walnut Creek. I have a IDE cdrom, which if I understand the installation notes correctly, is not supported by freebsd. I also have a conner tape back up connected to my floppy drive. Can I install from the tape back up (given of course that I copy all the files from the cdrom to the tapes, which I've done)? I copied the minimum directory to my partition which I hope to install freebsd on. At one point I tried to install from the hard drive, but was unsuccessful. I had created a boot disk and was attempting to use the installation utility off the boot disk. I suspect that I hadn't correctly assigned the intended partition, or that the extended logical drive was unmountable. This is all new to me and I am stumbling around in the dark, nes pa! Anyway, when I was asked by the utility to input the path for the previous minimum install, it wasn't recognized. Currently I have Win95 and OS2warp on my system with a 'os2warp' created boot manager which allows me to choose at start up which os I desire. If this isn't all messy enough, let me add a note regarding my confussion about the potential problems surrounding my computers hardware address's. As I mentioned earlier, I've been using the boot disk utility. When I boot from it, the disk looks at my system and displays a list of what it finds and what it can not. Question: Without the address's resolved prior to installation will an attempted installation of freebsd screw up the currently installed operating systems. Is the worst that could happen is that I would have to re-install anew Win95 and os2? Does the installation of FreeBsd change the internal addressing system? Does my question reveal my ignorance of computer hardware? Last question: Have you heard of the software utility called "System Commander 2.1" by V Communications? Supposedly it assist's the user in setting up multiple operating systems on one hard drive. Any feed back will be appreciated, unless you laugh hysterically at my query. Thanxs in advance Doug MacDonald From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 1 21:12:03 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id VAA29525 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 21:12:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from seldon.terminus.com (seldon.terminus.com [204.182.12.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA29511 for ; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 21:11:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from sm_4.terminus.com by seldon.terminus.com (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/Chill_out) id AA27353; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 21:11:53 -0800 Date: Mon, 1 Jan 1996 21:11:53 -0800 Message-Id: <9601020511.AA27353@seldon.terminus.com> X-Sender: geckogrf@seldon.terminus.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Douglas MacDonald Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Howdy Happy New Year I have FreeBSDv2.0.5 on cdrom from Walnut Creek. I have a IDE cdrom, which if I understand the installation notes correctly, is not supported by freebsd. I also have a conner tape back up connected to my floppy drive. Can I install from the tape back up (given of course that I copy all the files from the cdrom to the tapes, which I've done)? I copied the minimum directory to my partition which I hope to install freebsd on. At one point I tried to install from the hard drive, but was unsuccessful. I had created a boot disk and was attempting to use the installation utility off the boot disk. I suspect that I hadn't correctly assigned the intended partition, or that the extended logical drive was unmountable. This is all new to me and I am stumbling around in the dark, nes pa! Anyway, when I was asked by the utility to input the path for the previous minimum install, it wasn't recognized. Currently I have Win95 and OS2warp on my system with a 'os2warp' created boot manager which allows me to choose at start up which os I desire. If this isn't all messy enough, let me add a note regarding my confussion about the potential problems surrounding my computers hardware address's. As I mentioned earlier, I've been using the boot disk utility. When I boot from it, the disk looks at my system and displays a list of what it finds and what it can not. Question: Without the address's resolved prior to installation will an attempted installation of freebsd screw up the currently installed operating systems. Is the worst that could happen is that I would have to re-install anew Win95 and os2? Does the installation of FreeBsd change the internal addressing system? Does my question reveal my ignorance of computer hardware? Last question: Have you heard of the software utility called "System Commander 2.1" by V Communications? Supposedly it assist's the user in setting up multiple operating systems on one hard drive. Any feed back will be appreciated, unless you laugh hysterically at my query. Thanxs in advance Doug MacDonald From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 1 21:13:07 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id VAA29585 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 21:13:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from iworks.InterWorks.org (iworks.interworks.org [128.255.18.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA29578 for ; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 21:13:03 -0800 (PST) Received: by iworks.InterWorks.org (1.37.109.8/16.2) id AA02831; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 23:09:31 -0600 Message-Id: <9601020509.AA02831@iworks.InterWorks.org> Date: Mon, 1 Jan 1996 23:09:31 -0600 From: "Daniel M. Eischen" To: dglo@SSEC.WISC.EDU, questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: CD interface Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk >> I'm trying to bring up xmcd on FreeBSD 2.1.0-RELEASE. By default, it tries >> to use /dev/rcd0c to communicate with the drive, but that results in a >> bunch of "SCIOCCOMMAND ioctl failed: Permission denied" messages (even when >> running as root). ... >Might this be an older version of xmcd that opens the device read >only? I think it was patched at some point to open it read/write. >To use the generic scsi calls you need to open the device read/write. That's how I made it work and am running it under 2.1-stable. In the xmcd distribution directory, change libdi.d/os_frbsd.c (the pthru_open function ) to open the device O_RDWR instead of O_RDONLY. *** os_frbsd.c.old Tue Jan 2 01:17:22 1996 --- os_frbsd.c Tue Jan 2 01:17:55 1996 *************** *** 214,220 **** return FALSE; } ! if ((pthru_fd = open(path, O_RDONLY)) < 0) { DBGPRN(errfp, "Cannot open %s: errno=%d\n", path, errno); return FALSE; } --- 214,220 ---- return FALSE; } ! if ((pthru_fd = open(path, O_RDRW)) < 0) { DBGPRN(errfp, "Cannot open %s: errno=%d\n", path, errno); return FALSE; } Dan Eischen deischen@iworks.InterWorks.org From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 1 21:23:19 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id VAA29796 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 21:23:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from wireless.Stanford.EDU (wireless.Stanford.EDU [36.10.0.102]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA29791 for ; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 21:23:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from lightning (tip-mp6-ncs-10.Stanford.EDU [36.173.0.121]) by wireless.Stanford.EDU (8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id VAA02965; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 21:16:22 -0800 Date: Mon, 1 Jan 1996 21:16:25 -0800 (PST) From: Bora Akyol X-Sender: bora@lightning To: Michael Smith cc: Bora Akyol , questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Boot Loader when both IDE and SCSI present. How to Install? In-Reply-To: <199601020110.LAA02624@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Hi I already solved this problem. I first installed OS-BS beta version from the CDROM and then hard wired the SCSI drive to be sd2 on the kernel, modified the fstab and everything is fine. Not a big problem, but in my opinion, LINUX booting process is ten times better. Bora On Tue, 2 Jan 1996, Michael Smith wrote: > Bora Akyol stands accused of saying: > > Now I have two IDE drives (one on each controller) and a SCSI > > drive and FreeBSD is on my SCSI drive. When I installed FreeBSD > > I chose to install the boot manager but that did not work apparently. > > Can someone please tell me how to make this boot loader work. > > I can now boot FreeBSD via the floppy but that is kind of awkward and > > requires me to be very alert. By the way I type hd(2,a)/kernel > > at the install floppy boot prompt. > > I'd guess that you're going to have a very hard time with this combination, > depending on what your BIOS does with the second IDE disk. > > Traditional PC-AT BIOSes will only boot from the first two disks. You > may be able to get somewhere using the fbsdboot program and a kernel on > a DOS partition. > > > Bora > > -- > ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ > ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ > ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ > ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ > ]] "Who does BSD?" "We do Chucky, we do." [[ > > From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 1 21:42:49 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id VAA00452 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 21:42:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from fyeung5.netific.com (netific.vip.best.com [205.149.182.145]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA00445 for ; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 21:42:46 -0800 (PST) Received: (from fyeung@localhost) by fyeung5.netific.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id VAA00738 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 21:41:01 GMT From: francis yeung Message-Id: <199601012141.VAA00738@fyeung5.netific.com> Subject: install both pppd and ijjpp To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 1 Jan 1996 21:41:00 +0000 () X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Greetings, Currently I cam using iijpp/tun for demand dialout and slipd for dialin. I want to change the slipd to pppd. Does it make any sense to install both pppd and iijpp/tun in the same system ? Any recommendation ? TIA. Francis From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 1 22:18:36 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id WAA01667 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 22:18:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA01653 for ; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 22:18:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) id PAA03619; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 15:44:46 +1030 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199601020514.PAA03619@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: A Few Questions Re: 2.1 To: ANDRSN@HOOVER.STANFORD.EDU (Annelise Anderson) Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 15:44:46 +1030 (CST) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <01HZIBJ6BPIQ009B4T@HOOVER.STANFORD.EDU> from "Annelise Anderson" at Jan 1, 96 08:15:27 pm MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Annelise Anderson stands accused of saying: > 1) The mouse. The mouse is a bus mouse that plugs into an ATI > Mach 32 Graphics Ultra Pro card. Start-up messages include > mse0 at 0x23c irq 5 on isa. I've tried various mouse protocols > in XF86Config (MouseMan, Busmouse, Microsoft). /dev/mouse is > linked to mse0. I'm not sure this mouse is really using irq 5; > IRQ 5 is used, I think, by the sound-blaster emulation part of > the ProAudio Spectrum card. I tried booting with kernel -c and > putting mse0 on irq 4. Then I get a message that mse0 is not Use userconfig to change the kernel settings to match the device settings. It can't work the other way around. > 2) The computer hangs up if I try to get a listing of configured > devices with lsdev and at some other odd times. Yecch. That's not so good; what "other odd times"? > 3) The computer does not reboot with /sbin/shutdown -r now. It > syncs disks and hangs, requiring a hard reboot. This sounds like a nonconformant keyboard controller, and is a problem with a lot of PCI 486 systems and some others 8( > 4) When I try to mount the floppy drives (/sbin/mount -t msdos > /dev/fd0 /mnt) I get a message that the device is not configured. /dev/fd0a is what you want. > Annelise -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] "Who does BSD?" "We do Chucky, we do." [[ From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 1 22:19:13 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id WAA01741 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 22:19:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA01725 for ; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 22:19:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) id QAA03783; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 16:48:27 +1030 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199601020618.QAA03783@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: Boot Loader when both IDE and SCSI present. How to Install? To: bora@wireless.stanford.edu (Bora Akyol) Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 16:48:26 +1030 (CST) Cc: msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au, akyol@wireless.stanford.edu, questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: from "Bora Akyol" at Jan 1, 96 09:16:25 pm MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Bora Akyol stands accused of saying: > I already solved this problem. I first installed OS-BS beta version from > the CDROM and then hard wired the SCSI drive to be sd2 on the kernel, > modified the fstab and everything is fine. Not sure I follow, but hey, that's nothing new 8) > Not a big problem, but in my opinion, LINUX booting process is ten times > better. Care to tell us about how it works? We're always happy to improve... > Bora -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] "Who does BSD?" "We do Chucky, we do." [[ From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 1 22:20:15 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id WAA01902 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 22:20:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA01867 for ; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 22:20:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) id PAA03467; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 15:10:59 +1030 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199601020440.PAA03467@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: minor numbers on ide disks? To: leisner@sdsp.mc.xerox.com (Marty Leisner) Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 15:10:58 +1030 (CST) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <9601020302.AA21787@gemini.sdsp.mc.xerox.com> from "Marty Leisner" at Jan 1, 96 07:02:07 pm MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Marty Leisner stands accused of saying: > > I want to swap on to wd0s6 (an extended partition) shown as: > wd0: type 0x5, start 1447488, end = 1511999, size 64512 : OK > wd0s6: type 0x82, start 1447551, end = 1511999, size 64449 : OK > > > How do I construct a device to support this...the standard devices # cd /dev # ./MAKEDEV wd0s6a Should do the trick, then # swapon /dev/wd0s6c > Happy new year... Likewise! > marty leisner@sdsp.mc.xerox.com -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] "Who does BSD?" "We do Chucky, we do." [[ From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 1 22:48:34 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id WAA03452 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 22:48:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from picspc01.pics.com ([192.135.189.20]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA03446 for ; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 22:48:29 -0800 (PST) Received: (from tpr@localhost) by picspc01.pics.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id BAA00531 for questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 01:47:46 -0500 From: Terry Rossi Message-Id: <199601020647.BAA00531@picspc01.pics.com> Subject: Hangs after ifconfig on boot To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 01:47:46 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8a] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I have an increasingly more frequently problem with 2.1R hanging during system boot-up. Right after the boot-up shows me the ifconfig information for my ethernet device "ed1" it hangs until I hit -C. Then for all of the network deamons I have to also hit -c to get to a login prompt. After I login, I notice that the default route is not set and I cannot ping localhost. After I add "route add default myrouter" I can ping the world, but I still cannot ping "localhost" Any networking quru's want to venture a quess here. I don't think it is a configuration issue, as nothing has changed (famous last words)... TIA Terry -- ------------------------------------------------------------ Terry Rossi tpr@pics.com Data: 609/753-2540 Sysop, Pics OnLine BBS telnet: bbs.pics.com 609/767-0216 Voice/Fax WWW: http://www.pics.com From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 1 22:55:59 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id WAA03592 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 22:55:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from oznet02.ozemail.com.au (root@oznet02.ozemail.com.au [203.2.192.124]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA03587 for ; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 22:55:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from rlyon (slmel4p10.ozemail.com.au [203.15.163.98]) by oznet02.ozemail.com.au (8.7.1/8.6.12) with SMTP id RAA18194; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 17:53:47 +1100 (EST) Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 17:49:41 +1100 (EST) From: Richard Lyon X-Sender: rlyon@rlyon To: Robert Nordier cc: "Garrett A. Wollman" , questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: PPP glitches In-Reply-To: <199601012250.AAA00368@eac.iafrica.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On Tue, 2 Jan 1996, Robert Nordier wrote: > > Do you -- or does anyone -- happen to know the exact setup to use with > iij-ppp where addresses on both side are dynamically assigned? (This must > be quite common, I would have thought.) > > Everything always works OK for the first session. But unfortunately > neither 'route delete' nor 'route flush' set everything back to the same > state as before a connection was made. > Dynamic addressing on both end ??? I though the source (you) could be dynamic but it is usual to set the destination with a fixed address. Having both ends dynamic would be useful. This would allow you to connect to a number of different destinations. Regards ... From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 1 23:28:17 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id XAA04837 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 23:28:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts13-line10.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.159]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA04831 for ; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 23:28:10 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id XAA01046; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 23:28:40 -0800 Date: Mon, 1 Jan 1996 23:28:39 -0800 (PST) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: linux_emu: bus error Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hello! I can't seem to get linux emulation up. I compiled the sources from freebsd-current as indicated, created the /compat/linux/* as directed, and are loading the lkm at boot time. But, when I try to run a Linux X application, like xdoom: gdi,ttyp2,~/bin,54>./xdoom Bus error What is going on?? I tried Xing's xnetview with the same result. Running FreeBSD 2.1.0-RELEASE, Xf86 3.1.2s. AdvTHANKSance! Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@gladstone.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 1 23:40:17 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id XAA05516 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 23:40:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts13-line10.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.159]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA05509 for ; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 23:40:11 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id XAA01087; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 23:40:26 -0800 Date: Mon, 1 Jan 1996 23:40:24 -0800 (PST) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Douglas MacDonald cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: your mail In-Reply-To: <9601020511.AA27353@seldon.terminus.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 1 Jan 1996, Douglas MacDonald wrote: > Howdy Happy New Year I have FreeBSDv2.0.5 on cdrom from Walnut Creek. Return that and get the 2.1 RELEASE CD if possible. 2.1 is much superior, and has an edge change of getting your IDE cdrom working. > my floppy drive. Can I install from the tape back up (given of course that > I copy all the files from the cdrom to the tapes, which I've done)? If you can make tar archives to the tape you can, ie using another unix box, not Microsoft Backup :-) > the minimum directory to my partition which I hope to install freebsd on. At > one point I tried to install from the hard drive, but was unsuccessful. Welcome to the club (although that should have gotten somewhere)... > Question: Without the address's resolved prior to installation will an > attempted installation of freebsd screw up the currently installed operating > systems. Is the worst that could happen is that I would have to re-install > anew Win95 and os2? Does the installation of FreeBsd change the internal > addressing system? Does my question reveal my ignorance of computer hardware? It really depends. I have a similar configuration, using Boot Manager between a OS/2, DOS, and FreeBSD partitions. Because I have an extended partition, however, my slice table is at the max of 4, so I could not add another operating system. I think you're OK, just as long as you don't have two DOS primary partitions. Using BM you can install fbsd on a second disk, and have BM recognize it. This is how I am operating right now. > Last question: Have you heard of the software utility called > "System Commander 2.1" by V Communications? Supposedly it assist's the > user in setting up multiple operating systems on one hard drive. Any feed > back will be appreciated, unless you laugh hysterically at my query. Thanxs > in advance Doug MacDonald Someone else mentioned it, I think it's functionally equivalent to the Boot Manager. BM works great, stick with it :-) Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@gladstone.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 2 01:00:51 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id BAA08121 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 01:00:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from hda.com (hda.com [199.232.40.182]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id BAA08116 for ; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 01:00:46 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dufault@localhost) by hda.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id EAA29529; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 04:15:18 -0500 From: Peter Dufault Message-Id: <199601020915.EAA29529@hda.com> Subject: Re: CD interface To: peterb@telerama.lm.com (Peter Berger) Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 04:15:17 -0500 (EST) Cc: dglo@SSEC.WISC.EDU, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Peter Berger" at Jan 1, 96 10:30:21 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > Note that the xmcd package -WILL NOT WORK ON 2.1 SYSTEMS- as distributed, > because of this. > > Why is scsi_ioctl.c returning EACCESS in this case? Is there a rationale > for it? It just seems like a check without a problem.... The rational is to prevent someone with read-ony access to the device from being able to do things like "allow removal" and "eject the disk". -- Peter Dufault Real Time Machine Control and Simulation HD Associates, Inc. Voice: 508 433 6936 dufault@hda.com Fax: 508 433 5267 From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 2 02:34:48 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id CAA11893 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 02:34:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from toadflax.cs.ucdavis.edu (toadflax.cs.ucdavis.edu [128.120.56.188]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id CAA11887 for ; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 02:34:38 -0800 (PST) Received: by toadflax.cs.ucdavis.edu (4.1/UCD.CS.2.6) id AA29620; Tue, 2 Jan 96 02:34:30 PST From: obrien@cs.ucdavis.edu (David E. O'Brien) Message-Id: <9601021034.AA29620@toadflax.cs.ucdavis.edu> Subject: Re: neophyte can't install freebsd To: geckograf@seldon.terminus.com (Douglas MacDonald) Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 02:34:29 -0800 (PST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <30E8BC0C.17F5@terminus.com> from "Douglas MacDonald" at Jan 1, 96 09:01:00 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8b] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > Last question: Have you heard of the software utility called > "System Commander 2.1" by V Communications? Supposedly it assist's the > user in setting up multiple operating systems on one hard drive. Any feed > back will be appreciated, unless you laugh hysterically at my query. Thanxs No laughing here. I use this exact utilitiy. Works GREAT with FreeBSD, MS-DOS 5.1 and Novell DOS 7. Much nicer interface than booteasy. Just igore the fact that System Commander says the disk type for the FreeBSD disk or slice is "UNKNOWN". It works just fine. -- David (obrien@cs.ucdavis.edu) From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 2 04:01:58 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id EAA15230 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 04:01:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from panix.com (panix.com [198.7.0.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id EAA15219 for ; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 04:01:55 -0800 (PST) Received: (from jbarrm@localhost) by panix.com (8.7/8.7/PanixU1.3) id HAA18474; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 07:01:53 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 07:01:52 -0500 (EST) From: Barry Masterson To: "Garrett A. Wollman" cc: "freebsd.questions" Subject: Re: ppp from shell, & starting X In-Reply-To: <9601012015.AA12054@halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk So, could this be the cause of startx not running after I've run (iij)ppp from a regular shell? ( requiring reboot to run X ) I'll have to readup on routing today in order to better understand your response. Thanks you Barry Masterson jbarrm@panix.com >--->--->--->--->---> FreeBSD 2.1.0 <---<---<---<---<---< On Mon, 1 Jan 1996, Garrett A. Wollman wrote: > < > > Dec 17 08:59:50 /kernel: rtinit: wrong ifa (0xf054e500) was (0xf04dee00) > > Dec 18 11:22:24 /kernel: rtinit: wrong ifa (0xf051fe00) was (0xf04dee00) > > Dec 28 21:12:12 /kernel: rtinit: wrong ifa (0xf04ebc80) was (0xf04dee00) > > Dec 29 17:06:01 /kernel: rtinit: wrong ifa (0xf053f680) was (0xf04dee00) > > What this message indicates is that there is something wrong with the > routing. Specifically: > > The message occurs when trying to add the route corresponding to a new > interface address. One of the steps in adding the route is to use the > interface address table to figure out which interface the route should > be marked for use with. The message indicates that this calculation > came up with a different answer than the interface that is supposed to > be represented in the first place, so something is inconsistent in > your configuration. > > -GAWollman > > -- > Garrett A. Wollman | Shashish is simple, it's discreet, it's brief. ... > wollman@lcs.mit.edu | Shashish is the bonding of hearts in spite of distance. > Opinions not those of| It is a bond more powerful than absence. We like people > MIT, LCS, ANA, or NSA| who like Shashish. - Claude McKenzie + Florent Vollant > From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 2 06:31:31 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id GAA20714 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 06:31:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from pancake.remcomp.fr (root@pancake.remcomp.fr [194.51.30.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id GAA20707 for ; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 06:31:23 -0800 (PST) Received: (from didier@localhost) by zapata.omnix.fr.org (8.6.12/8.6.9) id NAA06824; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 13:38:00 +0100 Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 13:38:00 +0100 (MET) From: didier@omnix.fr.org To: Daniel Baker cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: AMD Chips & FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <199601020044.SAA24121@crash.ops.neosoft.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk The AMD 486-100 is is works fibe with freebsd. but ask for an AMD 486-120 is almost the same price and has a write back cache 14000 dhrystone /s, norton: 270. bogomips 47 -- Didier Derny | My computer is Microsoft Free and Bug Free didier@aida.org | I'm running FreeBSD 2.1-STABLE On Mon, 1 Jan 1996, Daniel Baker wrote: > I'm thinking about buying a new machine that has an AMD 486-100 DX4 chip, > and I'm wondering if anyone has had any problems running on an AMD chip, > or if there is anything special needed in the kernel configuration, etc. > > Thanks > > > -- > dbaker@neosoft.com - Daniel Baker - FTP & UseNet Admin - Neosoft, Inc. > Any opinions expressed are mine. > From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 2 07:15:24 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id HAA21960 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 07:15:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from sparc20.ncu.edu.tw (sparc20.cc.ncu.edu.tw [140.115.17.110]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA21953 for ; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 07:15:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from sparc18.ncu.edu.tw by sparc20.ncu.edu.tw (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA06991; Tue, 2 Jan 96 23:15:18 CST From: u351925@sparc20.ncu.edu.tw (PC Artist) Message-Id: <9601021515.AA06991@sparc20.ncu.edu.tw> Subject: Boot failure To: questions@FreeBSD.org Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 23:15:55 +0800 (CST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 1.00] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I got boot.flp of FreeBSD 2.1.0 RELEASE. After I use rawrite to make the installation disk, I reboot the system. And it hangs without printing any message. But I can boot with it on other machine. I reviewed the compatibility list, and found almost of them are compatible: 1. Adaptec AHA-1542CF SCSI card.(1 SCSI disk) (0x330,IRQ 11,DMA 5) 2. Normal I/O card (IDE,FDC,2S1P) (all default settings) 3. Promise EIDE Max (secondary, IRQ 15) 4. Creative Sound-Blaster pro, DSP version 3.1 (0x220,IRQ 5, DMA 1) 5. NE2000 compatible card. (0x300,IRQ 10) 6. ISA ET4000AX video card. Though computer hangs, the floppy drive is still light-up. I've installed Linux, and it can boot and install normally. Can you help me what the problem is and how to solve? 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Right after the boot-up shows me the > ifconfig information for my ethernet device "ed1" it hangs > until I hit -C. Then for all of the network deamons > I have to also hit -c to get to a login prompt. > > After I login, I notice that the default route is not set and > I cannot ping localhost. After I add "route add default myrouter" I > can ping the world, but I still cannot ping "localhost" > > Any networking quru's want to venture a quess here. I don't > think it is a configuration issue, as nothing has changed (famous > last words)... At a guess, I would say that your machine isn't being able to resolve addresses correctly. Is your /etc/resolv.conf showing a good address for a nameserver? Actually, I guess you ought to have two addresses for a nameserver here. > > TIA Terry > -- > ------------------------------------------------------------ > Terry Rossi tpr@pics.com Data: 609/753-2540 > Sysop, Pics OnLine BBS telnet: bbs.pics.com > 609/767-0216 Voice/Fax WWW: http://www.pics.com > ============================================================================ Chuck Robey chuckr@eng.umd.edu -- I run FreeBSD on n3lxx and Journey2 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- The Dilbert Zone is Dilbert's new WWW home! The area features never-before-seen original sketches of Dilbert, a photo tour of Scott Adams' studio, Dilbert Trivia and memorabilia, high school photos and much more!: From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 2 07:58:27 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id HAA24763 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 07:58:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from io.org (io.org [142.77.70.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA24756 for ; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 07:58:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.io.org (dyna-13.net7a.io.org [204.92.48.13]) by io.org (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id KAA01471; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 10:57:41 -0500 Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 10:57:41 -0500 Message-Id: <199601021557.KAA01471@io.org> X-Sender: scouch@io.org X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: "Timothy C. Brown" From: Stephen Couchman Subject: Re: ijppp cannot talk to modem (/dev/cuaa1) Cc: questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk At 11:45 AM 12/30/95 -0600, you wrote: >What COM port is your modem on? Does it work alright under DOS or any I have it on COM2 (/dev/cuaa1) >other operating systems (or do you use any other operating systems?) Works fine under DOS. Works fine using cu, tip, and pppd under FreeBSD 2.1.0. -- Stephen > >On Sat, 30 Dec 1995, Stephen Couchman wrote: > >> Barry, >> >> Thanks for the files. These seem to match what I have, but all of the >> settings (except for device) are elementary if ijppp cannot talk to my >> modem. It may seem like a 'small' problem, but without communications with >> the modem, I am going nowhere fast.... :-(( >> >> tip and cu have no problems communicating with the modem...:-(( >> >> -- Stephen >> >> At 10:17 AM 12/30/95 -0500, you wrote: >> >This may not be of any use, but I'm including it anyway. I just >> >start ppp as root, 'dial panix', then switch to the vc's for the >> >other applications; finger, ftp, gopher.... I'm not sure as to why >> >your ppp program is not talking to your modem. Thats a small mystery. >> >I'm including portions of my ppp files. Hope it helps. >> > >> >Barry Masterson >> >jbarrm@panix.com >> > >> >>--->--->--->--->---> >> > FreeBSD 2.1.0 >> ><---<---<---<---<---< >> > >> >################################################################# >> ># >> ># PPP Sample Configuration File >> ># >> ># Written by Toshiharu OHNO >> ># >> ># $Id: ppp.conf.sample,v 1.3 1995/04/22 17:14:21 amurai Exp $ >> ># >> >################################################################# >> ># >> ># Default setup. Executed always when PPP is invoked. >> ># >> >default: >> > set device /dev/cuaa1 >> > set speed 38400 >> > set timeout 120 >> > set debug >> > disable lqr >> > deny lqr >> > set dial "ABORT BUSY ABORT NO\\sCARRIER TIMEOUT 5 \"\" ATE1Q0 OK-AT-OK >> \\dATDT\\T TIMEOUT 40 CONNECT" >> ># >> ># >> >#simplesite: >> >panix: >> > set phone 7414455 >> > set login "TIMEOUT 10 ease?-\\r-ease? ppp ame: jbarrm word: password" >> > set ifaddr 166.84.200.109 198.7.0.124 >> > add 0 255.255.255.0 198.7.0.124 >> > >> > >> >######################################################################### >> ># >> ># Example of ppp.linkup file >> >## >> ># $Id: ppp.linkup.sample,v 1.1.1.1 1995/01/31 06:24:33 amurai Exp $ >> ># >> >######################################################################### >> ># >> >iij-demand: >> > delete ALL >> > add 0 0 HISADDR >> ># >> ># Otherwide, simply add peer as default gateway. >> ># >> >#MYADDR: >> >166.84.200.109: >> > add 0 0 HISADDR >> > >> > >> >################################################## >> ># Sysname Secret Key Peer's IP address >> ># >> ># $Id: ppp.secret.sample,v 1.2 1995/02/26 12:16:37 amurai Exp $ >> ># >> >################################################## >> >#oscar OurSecretKey 192.244.184.34/24 >> >#BigBird X4dWg9327 192.244.184.33/32 >> >#tama localPasswdForControl >> >panix passwd >> > >> > >> > >> >On Sat, 30 Dec 1995, Stephen Couchman wrote: >> > >> >> I am trying to get ijppp (user ppp) to work, but I am running into one >> >> problem after another. >> >> >> >> I have taken the advice given to me lately concerning my /etc/ppp/ppp.conf >> >> file. This seems to setup my modem, etc. properly since the 'show modem' >> >> command within ijppp displays the expected results. >> >> >> >> The problem, however, is that ijppp cannot seem to talk to my modem. >> >> >> >> The modem is connected to /dev/cuaa1. I can use 'tip' to connect to the >> >> modem, and dial out. >> >> >> >> When I try to use the 'term' command from within ijppp, I get no response >> >> from the modem. The RD/SD lights on my modem do not flash. I get the same >> >> response if I use the 'dial' command from within ijppp (after starting the >> >> program with an ISP name found in my ppp.conf file. >> >> >> >> BTW, when I use the 'term' or 'dial' command to access the modem using >> >> /dev/cuaa1, a 'LCK..cuaa1' file is created in '/var/spool/lock'. >> >> >> >> Any ideas?? >> >> >> >> Thanks -- Stephen >> >> ______________________________ >> >> Stephen Couchman | scouch@io.org >> >> >> > >> ______________________________ >> Stephen Couchman | scouch@io.org >> > ______________________________ Stephen Couchman | scouch@io.org From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 2 08:35:40 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id IAA26525 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 08:35:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from mispwoso.nosc.mil (mispwoso.nosc.mil [198.253.27.55]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA26519 for ; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 08:35:31 -0800 (PST) Received: (from huck@localhost) by mispwoso.nosc.mil (8.6.12/8.6.12) id LAA07612 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 11:35:21 -0500 From: Craig Huckabee Message-Id: <199601021635.LAA07612@mispwoso.nosc.mil> Subject: More pty questions To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 11:35:21 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8a] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Happy New Year everyone, I'm still looking for help with the correct configuration of my pty's. My main questions are : 1) The kernel config has a line like : pseudo-device pty 16 #Pseudo ttys - can go as high as 64 what if I want to use 256? I decided to experiment and I made 160 pty devices (using /dev/MAKEDEV pty{0,1,2,3,4}) and added the appropriate entries to /etc/ttys. I restarted init and tried to use the new ptys (I have an expect script that kicks off a bunch of outgoing telnet sessions) - it failed after 14. So I made a new kernel with 'pseudo-device pty 160', and 'config' made a pty.h file that contained : #define NPTY 1606 I went ahead and made the new kernel, and installed it - it runs and I am now able to use all of my pty entries. So far, so good. But I am concerned about the weird pty.h file and I'm wondering about the comment in the kernel config file - what is the 64 limit? BTW, this same comment is made in the FreeBSD Handbook section on the pseudo-device 'pty'. What am I doing wrong here? 2) The MAKEDEV script has the following comment : # This still leaves [tuTU]. Do I just have to add the t,u,T,U pieces to the script to use these ptys or is the support for these 'extra' pty devices in the code ? I hope these questions aren't too stupid, but can anyone help me see the light? Thanks, Craig huck@nosc.mil From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 2 08:40:05 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id IAA26751 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 08:40:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from io.org (io.org [142.77.70.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA26708 Tue, 2 Jan 1996 08:39:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.io.org (dyna-1.net7c.io.org [204.92.50.1]) by io.org (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id LAA07541; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 11:39:37 -0500 Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 11:39:37 -0500 Message-Id: <199601021639.LAA07541@io.org> X-Sender: scouch@io.org X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: "Jonathan M. Bresler" From: Stephen Couchman Subject: Re: iijpp STILL cannot talk to my modem :-(( Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk At 06:25 AM 1/2/96 -0500, you wrote: > here's how you can cheat :) > > take a look at /etc/rc.serial. the stty above works, but when >the process ends, /dev/cuaa1 is reset. you need to diddle /dev/cuaia1 >(that initial settings) leave the /dev/cuala1 alone (lock settings) so >the modem and dialer can diddle as they wish. (man 4 sio explains all >the ins and outs) I have made the changes to the initial state using rc.serial as you suggested so that only /dev/cuaia1 is affected. This had the desired affect on /dev/cuaa1, so now when I check the state using stty -a ; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 09:05:23 -0800 (PST) From: ptroot@uswest.com Received: from egate.mnet.uswest.com ([151.116.23.138]) by uswat.advtech.uswest.com (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA26432 for ; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 10:05:22 -0700 (MST) Received: from easthub (easthub.mnet.uswest.com [151.117.26.86]) by egate.mnet.uswest.com (8.7.1/8.7.1) with SMTP id KAA03209 for ; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 10:13:04 -0700 (MST) Received: by easthub.mnet.uswest.com (M-Net Hub.951228) Received: from kermit.acs.uswest.com by astro.acs.uswest.com (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA07801; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 11:05:10 -0600 Received: by kermit.acs.uswest.com (5.x/SPARCbook_POP1.1) id AA00645; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 11:05:10 -0600 Message-Id: <9601021705.AA00645@kermit.acs.uswest.com> Subject: Three problems with FreeBSD 2.1 (fwd) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 11:05:09 -0600 (CST) X-Organization: !nterprise Networking Services X-Phone: (612) 663-1979 X-Fax: (612) 663-8030 X-Page: (800) SKY-PAGE PIN: 537-7270 X-Address: 200 S. 5th St., Suite 1100 X-Address: Minneapolis, MN 55402 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I sent this to freebsd-bugs but then after reading the mailing-list list more closely, figured it belonged here. Paul. > Hi, > I just installed FreeBSD 2.1 and am having a few problems: > > First my configuration: > DX2/50 with ISA MB > 20 Meg Ram > 1 1 gig SCSI > 1 100 meg SCSI > Cirrus SVGA GD542x > Adaptec 1542B > Logitec 3-button bus mouse > Sound Blaster 16 > SMC elite 8013 > CTX CVP-5468A 14in SVGA non-interlaced > > The disks are laid out as follows > 1 Gig > ----- > 1 - 200 Meg for DOS > 2 - 800 Meg for FreeBSD > / 750 Meg > swap 500 Meg > > I keep everything in one partition to easy backups and > optimally use disk space. > > I've built a custom kernel with only what I need, and everything > shows up fine, with no conflicts. Though I'm a little concerned with > the port of the SB and the mouse. > > The SB 16 is set to port 0x220 and the mouse is (unmovable) at 0x23c. > > 1) When I halt/reboot/shutdown the machine, it tries to > sync but after a line full of 1 1 1 1 1 it says > giving up. then on reboot it says / was not properly unmounted. > > Could it be that the partition goes past 1024 cylinders? > > 2) X won't work. > I can only start it as root, though the device is 666. I > tried this with both the sco and the vt console. (I built both) > > There is a 1 inch border on all sides. I don't have enough > screen to let that happen. > > The mouse runs to 0 0 and then won't move from it, the > first time you touch the mouse. This is the mse0 driver. > > > Any help is appreciated. > > Thanks, > Paul. > > -- > Paul T. Root E/Mail: ptroot@uswest.com > 200 S. 5th St. Suite 1100 PAG: +1 (800) SKY-PAGE PIN: 537-7370 > Minneapolis, MN 55402 WRK: +1 (612) 663-1979 > NIC: PTR FAX: +1 (612) 663-8030 > > -- Paul T. Root - USWEST !NTERPRISE Networking Service ptroot@uswest.com Did you hear about the Polish parachute? --opens on impact. From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 2 09:19:42 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id JAA28602 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 09:19:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from wireless.Stanford.EDU (wireless.Stanford.EDU [36.10.0.102]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA28582 Tue, 2 Jan 1996 09:19:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from lightning (tip-mp9-ncs-6.Stanford.EDU [36.173.0.165]) by wireless.Stanford.EDU (8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id JAA03314; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 09:19:14 -0800 Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 09:19:17 -0800 (PST) From: Bora Akyol X-Sender: bora@lightning To: Michael Smith cc: msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au, questions@FreeBSD.org, hackers@FreeBSD.org Subject: Boot Loader when both IDE and SCSI present. How to Install? V.2 In-Reply-To: <199601020618.QAA03783@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 2 Jan 1996, Michael Smith wrote: > Bora Akyol stands accused of saying: > > I already solved this problem. I first installed OS-BS beta version from > > the CDROM and then hard wired the SCSI drive to be sd2 on the kernel, > > modified the fstab and everything is fine. > > Not sure I follow, but hey, that's nothing new 8) > > > Not a big problem, but in my opinion, LINUX booting process is ten times > > better. > > Care to tell us about how it works? We're always happy to improve... OK, Here is how the Linux boot loader works (I did not write so I am giving you only a functional description, you can check out the details at www.linux.org under Howto section under LILO. Linux uses a boot loader called LILO. LILO may use the MBR. It uses a file callled /etc/lilo.conf. In this file you specify which image to boot from where and it also uses a map of the disk drives. You run lilo, it installs the boot loader then you are ready to go. In FREEBSD , as far as I know there is no easy way to install a boot loader from FreeBSD itself, or at least I could not find it. Moreover the Booteasy program is not exactly configurable and it can not boot from a SCSI disk when IDE is present. Now I found this program called os-bs on the Walnut Creek CDROM and that was able to boot from a SCSI disk provided that the SCSI disk is visble from DOS at the initial installation. The only bummer with this set up was the fact that the bootstrap code kept on referring to the scsi drive as sd(2,a) which was clearly wrong. It should have been hd(2,a) the third hard drive or sd(0,a). IN either case to go around this I hard wired the scsi drive to be sd2 on the kernel configuration file, re compiled the kernel and there we go. Another thing that is missing from the FreeBSd project is the lack of documentation. I would be tempted to start a set of HOWTO's just like the Linux project. Maybe that will help the users. The FAQ and the Handbook are kind of weak for specific information although they do provide a great overview. Well this it. Bora From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 2 09:40:42 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id JAA29798 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 09:40:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from uu10.psi.com (uu10.psi.com [38.8.4.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA29789 for ; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 09:40:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from synrome.com by uu10.psi.com (5.65b/4.0.061193-PSI/PSINet) via UUCP; id AA04091 for ; Tue, 2 Jan 96 12:30:46 -0500 Message-Id: <9601021730.AA04091@uu10.psi.com> Date: 2 Jan 1996 12:31:11 -0400 From: "Rogers, Bradley" Subject: FreeBSD and NT To: "FreeBSD_Questions" Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Four questions: 1) Can FreeBSD and Windows NT 3.51 reside on the same machine? 2) If so, are there restrictions on various versions, or do they all work? 3) If so, should I be using the FreeBSD boot manager, or the NT boot manager? 4) If so, does FreeBSD have any ability to mount NTFS filesystems? When I subscribed to this list several months ago I seem to recall seeing some discussion of these questions. Unfortunately I don't remember the responses. Thanks! Brad Rogers Synectics Corporation rogersb@synrome.com From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 2 09:48:07 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id JAA00263 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 09:48:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from picspc01.pics.com ([192.135.189.20]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA00255 for ; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 09:48:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.135.189.21] (picsnt01.pics.com [192.135.189.21]) by picspc01.pics.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id MAA10805; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 12:46:35 -0500 Message-Id: <199601021746.MAA10805@picspc01.pics.com> To: Chuck Robey Subject: Re: Hangs after ifconfig on boot Date: Tue, 02 Jan 96 12:44:08 -0500 From: Terry Rossi X-Mailer: E-Mail Connection v2.5.03 CC: "questions@FreeBSD.ORG" Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk -- [ From: Terry Rossi * EMC.Ver #2.5.02 ] -- -------- REPLY, Original message follows -------- Date: Tuesday, 02-Jan-96 10:30 AM From: Chuck Robey \ Internet: (chuckr@glue.umd.edu) To: Terry Rossi \ Internet: (tpr@picspc01.pics.com) cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG \ Internet: (questions@freebsd.org) Subject: Re: Hangs after ifconfig on boot On Tue, 2 Jan 1996, Terry Rossi wrote: > I have an increasingly more frequently problem with 2.1R hanging > during system boot-up. Right after the boot-up shows me the > ifconfig information for my ethernet device "ed1" it hangs > until I hit -C. Then for all of the network deamons > I have to also hit -c to get to a login prompt. > > After I login, I notice that the default route is not set and > I cannot ping localhost. After I add "route add default myrouter" I > can ping the world, but I still cannot ping "localhost" > > Any networking quru's want to venture a quess here. I don't > think it is a configuration issue, as nothing has changed (famous > last words)... At a guess, I would say that your machine isn't being able to resolve addresses correctly. Is your /etc/resolv.conf showing a good address for a nameserver? Actually, I guess you ought to have two addresses for a nameserver here. -------- REPLY, End of original message -------- The resolv.conf appears to be correct, again it hasn't changed. domain pics.com nameserver 192.135.189.20 nameserver 192.135.189.10 BTW: The machine having the problem is 192.135.189.20 From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 2 10:43:52 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id KAA02707 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 10:43:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from ncc-1701-d.starfleet.gov (root@ix-sb1-13.ix.netcom.com [204.32.201.45]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA02702 for ; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 10:43:49 -0800 (PST) Received: (from d_burr@localhost) by ncc-1701-d.starfleet.gov (8.6.11/8.6.9) id KAA00409; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 10:47:30 -0800 Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 10:47:29 -0800 (PST) From: Donald Burr X-Sender: d_burr@ncc-1701-d To: Stephen Couchman cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: iijpp STILL cannot talk to my modem :-(( In-Reply-To: <199512311717.MAA22789@io.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 31 Dec 1995, Stephen Couchman wrote: > Donald, > [...] Ok, I think I got it. (I hope...) It's that bit about the CRTSCTS and CLOCAL that got me... Now, please correct me if I'm wrong, but you have a 1200 baud modem, right? Most 1200 bauders (at least the one I used to own) don't do RTS/CTS (i.e. hardware) handshaking, no? I just checked, and it seems that iij-ppp automagically sets crtscts on your port. This is not a good thing. I grepped around in the ppp sources, and sure enough, it does set (and require) crtscts to be used. I don't know how to change this, so you're probably stuck for now. You mentioned that you'd be getting a Hayes 28.8 (? -- anyways, a high-speed modem of some kind) soon. This should solve your problem, since all high speed modems that I know of, support crtscts (and any that don't should immediately be thrown away). From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 2 10:45:35 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id KAA02885 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 10:45:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from ncc-1701-d.starfleet.gov (root@ix-sb1-13.ix.netcom.com [204.32.201.45]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA02877 for ; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 10:45:31 -0800 (PST) Received: (from d_burr@localhost) by ncc-1701-d.starfleet.gov (8.6.11/8.6.9) id KAA00421; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 10:49:35 -0800 Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 10:49:34 -0800 (PST) From: Donald Burr X-Sender: d_burr@ncc-1701-d To: Stephen Couchman , questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: iijpp STILL cannot talk to my modem :-(( In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 2 Jan 1996, Donald Burr wrote: > [...my solution...] To further elaborate, when you used tip and cu to access your modem, it worked, because AFAIK tip/cu don't indiscriminately set crtscts on the port they're accessing. In fact, most programs don't. This is why /etc/rc.serial exists, so that default parameters for each serial port can be set. If you had a high speed modem and tried using it with tip/cu, CRTSCTS would not be enabled, and because the modems weren't handshaking, you'd end up with a lot of lost data and other nastiness due to the high modem speed. From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 2 11:06:07 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id LAA03917 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 11:06:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from grolsch.cs.ubc.ca (grolsch-2.cs.ubc.ca [142.103.5.5]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA03912 for ; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 11:06:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from columbia.cs.ubc.ca (binhdo@columbia.cs.ubc.ca [142.103.4.15]) by grolsch.cs.ubc.ca (8.6.10/8.6.9) with ESMTP id LAA15530 for ; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 11:05:18 -0800 Received: (binhdo@localhost) by columbia.cs.ubc.ca (8.6.12/8.6.12) id LAA06710 for questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 11:05:16 -0800 From: "Binh Do" Message-Id: <9601021105.ZM6708@columbia.cs.ubc.ca> Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 11:05:15 -0800 X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.1 10apr95) To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Can FreeBSD be visible from Win95? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk As I have both Win95 and FreeBSD and as I specified /win95 as a mount partition of FreeBSD I can access Win95 from within FreeBSD. But is there any way to view FreeBSD from within Win95? Thank you for the information. PS. One more question. Can I somehow write to /win95 partition from FreeBSD? I tried to chmod to write but could not? Do I have to specify it during installation? -- Binh Do Department Of Computer Science University Of BC, Canada From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 2 11:42:09 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id LAA05856 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 11:42:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from beaver.cs.washington.edu (beaver.cs.washington.edu [128.95.1.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA05848 for ; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 11:42:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from tera.com (tera.com [128.95.3.1]) by beaver.cs.washington.edu (8.7.2/7.1be+) with SMTP id LAA01055; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 11:41:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from athena.tera.com by tera.com (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AA20864; Tue, 2 Jan 96 11:40:16 PST From: kline@tera.com (Gary Kline) Message-Id: <9601021940.AA20864@tera.com> Subject: Re: iijpp STILL cannot talk to my modem :-(( To: d_burr@ix.netcom.com (Donald Burr) Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 11:40:29 -0800 (PST) Cc: scouch@io.org, questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Donald Burr" at Jan 2, 96 10:49:34 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk According to Donald Burr: > > On Tue, 2 Jan 1996, Donald Burr wrote: > > > [...my solution...] > > To further elaborate, when you used tip and cu to access your modem, it > worked, because AFAIK tip/cu don't indiscriminately set crtscts on the > port they're accessing. In fact, most programs don't. This is why > /etc/rc.serial exists, so that default parameters for each serial port > can be set. If you had a high speed modem and tried using it with > tip/cu, CRTSCTS would not be enabled, and because the modems weren't > handshaking, you'd end up with a lot of lost data and other nastiness due > to the high modem speed. > Hmm. Would this explain why my modem frequently hangs when I try user-ppp? In /etc/rc.serial I have, as per the Web handbook: # stty -f /dev/ttyid1 crtscts 115200 stty -f /dev/ttyld1 crtscts stty -f /dev/cuaia1 crtscts 115200 stty -f /dev/cuala1 crtscts at the bottom of the file. Is this correct? Can you explain what this syntax means? gary kline From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 2 11:44:03 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id LAA06002 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 11:44:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA05997 for ; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 11:44:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id MAA12378; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 12:34:55 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199601021934.MAA12378@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: NETBSD ccd driver To: eblood@winky.reno.nv.us (Eric Blood) Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 12:34:54 -0700 (MST) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <199512292120.NAA00944@winky.reno.nv.us> from "Eric Blood" at Dec 29, 95 01:20:47 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > What is the NetBSD ccd driver? ConCatenated Disk driver. It takes several drives, and makes them look like one drive. With the devfs code in -current, there is a much cleaner way to implement this sort of thing. It's much more general, as well, so you could use the full implementation to fix the disklabel and OS compatability issues (magically). These are all instances of volume spanning and logical volume management. I don't recommend ccd or striping unless you need it for some serious application that you can't do any other way. You end up with a much lower MTBF on the spanned drives. If you had three drives, your MTBF will be: min(min(MTBF1,MTBF2),MTBF3) --------------------------- 3 Divide the one drive MTBF by the number of drives for identical drives. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 2 11:45:54 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id LAA06123 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 11:45:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from godzilla.zeta.org.au (godzilla.zeta.org.au [203.2.228.19]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA06113 Tue, 2 Jan 1996 11:45:49 -0800 (PST) Received: (from bde@localhost) by godzilla.zeta.org.au (8.6.9/8.6.9) id GAA29677; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 06:41:46 +1100 Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 06:41:46 +1100 From: Bruce Evans Message-Id: <199601021941.GAA29677@godzilla.zeta.org.au> To: bora@wireless.stanford.edu, msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au Subject: Re: Boot Loader when both IDE and SCSI present. How to Install? V.2 Cc: hackers@FreeBSD.org, questions@FreeBSD.org Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >> > Not a big problem, but in my opinion, LINUX booting process is ten times >> > better. >> >> Care to tell us about how it works? We're always happy to improve... >OK, >Here is how the Linux boot loader works (I did not write so I am giving you >only a functional description, you can check out the details at www.linux.org >under Howto section under LILO. >Linux uses a boot loader called LILO. LILO may use the MBR. It uses a file >callled /etc/lilo.conf. In this file you specify which image to boot from >where and it also uses a map of the disk drives. You run lilo, it installs LILO is actually an optional boot loader (sort of like booteasy except it handles kernel images too) that is used by many distributions because the loader built into the kernel images is so much _worse_ than FreeBSD's native boot loader. With LILO, you can specify the Linux root device using an arg string (e.g., "root=/dev/hda1") (good) but changing the kernel requires running a utility to set up a map of the blocks used in the kernel (bad). Bruce From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 2 11:58:23 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id LAA06740 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 11:58:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from dcb01a.cwi.net (root@dcb01a.cwi.net [205.136.1.65]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA06727 for ; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 11:58:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from acog.com (acog.com [205.136.111.253]) by dcb01a.cwi.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id OAA16387 for ; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 14:58:16 -0500 Received: by acog.com with Microsoft Mail id <30E9B988@acog.com>; Tue, 02 Jan 96 15:02:32 PST From: Mark Graves To: "'questions@freebsd.org'" Subject: FreeBSD 2.1 Post-Install Config Date: Tue, 02 Jan 96 14:53:00 PST Message-ID: <30E9B988@acog.com> Encoding: 27 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I am having problems with setting up my NIC in FreeBSD 2.1. Forgive my stupidity, I'm an old Linux user... While running /stand/sysinstall I select Configure to do a post-install config of BSD. Next I select Networking to config additional network services. I now want to select Interfaces to Configure additional network interfaces, but nothing happens. I expected to have a screen where I could configure my NE2000, but the screen doesn't change. What am I doing wrong? I have printed out the Oct 30, 95 FreeBSD handbook, and in cruising it haven't found my answer. So please help, or direct me an information source. Thank, Mark Graves American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists PS. Still having problems with your multi-boot program. If I make a floppy to boot from, how do I automatically make it mount hd(1,a)/kernel and NOT fd(1,a)/kernel? Consider changing boot manager to LILO -- I have used that with Linux without any problems for years. Your's continues to generate a BIOS error when I put it on my WD controller. mg From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 2 12:07:26 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id MAA07101 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 12:07:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from bambi.pomona.edu (bambi.pomona.edu [134.173.64.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA07089 for ; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 12:07:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from POMONA.EDU by POMONA.EDU (PMDF V5.0-4 #12356) id <01HZJ8GHW7KG8WWNVJ@POMONA.EDU> for questions@FreeBSD.Org; Tue, 02 Jan 1996 12:07:16 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 02 Jan 1996 12:07:16 -0800 (PST) From: JOHN Subject: Help! My beautiful kernel won't compile! :( To: questions@FreeBSD.Org Message-id: <01HZJ8GHWAEA8WWNVJ@POMONA.EDU> X-VMS-To: IN%"questions@FreeBSD.Org" X-VMS-Cc: JSINNOTT MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.Org Precedence: bulk First off, I would like to thank everyone involved with the FreeBSD project. This system is GREAT - I love it, and in my opinion (I'm a newbie so nobody flame me please) it feels more professional than Linux. Now with my question. :) I am trying to compile a kernal with support for such things as a PS/2 mouse, SB16, my Adaptec card etc. So, I followed the instructions down to the letter from the FreeBSD handbook. I typed "make depend" - great. I typed "make" and everything was going well until it stopped with these error messages: loading kernel kern_sysctl.o: Undefined symbol '_hw_float' referenced from text segment soundcard.o: Undefined symbol '_MIDIbuf_select' referenced from text segment soundcard.o: Undefined symbol '_MIDIbuf_init' referenced from text segment sound_switch.o: Undefined symbol '_MIDIbuf_read' referenced from text segment sound_switch.o: Undefined symbol '_MIDIbuf_write' referenced from text segment sound_switch.o: Undefined symbol '_MIDIbuf_open' referenced from text segment sound_switch.o: Undefined symbol '_MIDIbuf_release' referenced from text segment sound_switch.o: Undefined symbol '_MIDIbuf_ioctl' referenced from text segment *** Error code 1 Stop. Now, I put these three lines in my kernel config file as suggested by the Handbook for my soundblaster 16: controller snd0 device sbxvi0 at isa? drq5 device sbmidi0 at isa? port 0x330 And I have NO idea what the '_hw_float' might be referring to. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Happy New Year! John From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 2 12:14:34 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id MAA07478 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 12:14:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from milpitas.adaptec.com (milpitas.adaptec.com [162.62.21.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA07469 for ; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 12:14:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from eng.adaptec.com ([162.62.20.6]) by milpitas.adaptec.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA07071; Tue, 2 Jan 96 12:12:26 PST Received: from yosemite by eng.adaptec.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA03337; Tue, 2 Jan 96 12:14:50 PST Date: Tue, 2 Jan 96 12:14:50 PST From: tbraun@eng.adaptec.com (Terry Braun x2537) Message-Id: <9601022014.AA03337@eng.adaptec.com> To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: User PPP drops connections Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hello, I am trying to use the user ppp to maintain a dedicated connection to PPP server. The connection fails frequently. This is FreeBSD straight from the 2.1.0 CDROM. The problem seems to get worse with the load on the connection (transferring 1 MB requires 6 resets at times). I get messages about SIO buffer overflows. The hardware is a 486-33 with 16 MB and a 16550A serial card attached to a 28.8 modem. I could guess that the CPU is the problem, but doesn't that 16MB count for anything? Thanks for the help. Terry Braun From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 2 12:22:10 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id MAA07749 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 12:22:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from ncc-1701-d.starfleet.gov (root@ix-sb1-04.ix.netcom.com [204.32.201.36]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA07744 for ; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 12:22:07 -0800 (PST) Received: (from d_burr@localhost) by ncc-1701-d.starfleet.gov (8.6.11/8.6.9) id MAA01251; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 12:26:15 -0800 Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 12:26:15 -0800 (PST) From: Donald Burr X-Sender: d_burr@ncc-1701-d To: JOHN cc: questions@FreeBSD.Org Subject: Re: Help! My beautiful kernel won't compile! :( In-Reply-To: <01HZJ8GHWAEA8WWNVJ@POMONA.EDU> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.Org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 2 Jan 1996, JOHN wrote: > And I have NO idea what the '_hw_float' might be referring to. > Any help would be greatly appreciated. Sounds like you disabled the 'npx0' device in your kernel. This device is REQURED, EVEN IF YOU HAVE A HARDWARE FPU OR NOT. This is because the 'npx0' device is the INTERFACE to the floating point thingie -- whether that be a hardware unit, or a software emulation widget. The proper line to add is: device npx0 at isa? port "IO_NPX" irq 13 vector npxintr Donald Burr [d_burr@ix.netcom.com], PO Box 91212, Santa Barbara CA 93190-1212 TEL (805)564-1871 / FAX 564-2315 / WWW http://www.geopages.com/WallStreet/2072 PGP Public Key available by request (send e-mail) or on Public Key Servers. ** Uphold your right to privacy - Use PGP. ** From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 2 12:28:00 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id MAA08055 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 12:28:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from alpha.xerox.com (alpha.Xerox.COM [13.1.64.93]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA08050 for ; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 12:27:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from gemini.sdsp.mc.xerox.com ([13.231.132.20]) by alpha.xerox.com with SMTP id <14767(2)>; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 12:27:08 PST Received: from gnu.mc.xerox.com (gnu.sdsp.mc.xerox.com) by gemini.sdsp.mc.xerox.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA07329; Tue, 2 Jan 96 15:27:15 EST Received: by gnu.mc.xerox.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA11812; Tue, 2 Jan 96 15:27:10 EST Message-Id: <9601022027.AA11812@gnu.mc.xerox.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.4 10/10/95 To: Michael Smith Cc: magner@blueridge-ef.saic.com (Tony Magner), freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Boot problem In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 20 Dec 1995 23:00:12 PST." <199512210700.RAA15034@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 12:27:05 PST From: "Marty Leisner" Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > Tony Magner stands accused of saying: > > F1 . . . BSD > > > > Default: F? > > > > Q: Did I do something wrong during install? What does this msg mean and I how do I rid myself of it? > > > After i installed freebsd, I got booteasy 14 off a simtel cd and tried to install it (it worked before). Following the instruction, the same thing happened...I have a Packard Bell P100 with a 1.2 gigabyte disk...(first 500 Mbyte dos, next 300 meg extended, and then a freebsd slice). I also can boot if I select the active partition in fdisk... Also, fbsdboot has problems (it starts booting, prints a message and then halts [not sure what the message is...] I tried winbsdboot, and it could read the partition (it tells me what I can boot from...) I have no problem booting from a boot disk selecting wd(0,a)/kernel* -- marty leisner@sdsp.mc.xerox.com Member of the League for Programming Freedom From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 2 12:28:50 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id MAA08148 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 12:28:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from omega.physik.fu-berlin.de (omega.physik.fu-berlin.de [130.133.3.51]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA08143 for ; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 12:28:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from mordillo (oberon.physik.fu-berlin.de [130.133.3.126]) by omega.physik.fu-berlin.de (8.7.1/8.7.1) with ESMTP id VAA03964; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 21:28:38 +0100 (MET) Received: (from graichen@localhost) by mordillo (8.6.12/8.6.12) id UAA00468; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 20:18:46 +0100 From: Thomas Graichen Message-Id: <199601021918.UAA00468@mordillo> Subject: Re: AMD Chips & FreeBSD To: dbaker@crash.ops.neosoft.com (Daniel Baker) Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 20:18:45 +0100 (MET) Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <199601020044.SAA24121@crash.ops.neosoft.com> from "Daniel Baker" at Jan 1, 96 06:44:20 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk hasn't Daniel Baker said ? ... > > I'm thinking about buying a new machine that has an AMD 486-100 DX4 chip, > and I'm wondering if anyone has had any problems running on an AMD chip, > or if there is anything special needed in the kernel configuration, etc. > i only had amd chips until now - they all worked great - no problems t _______________________________________________________||___________________ __|| Perfection is reached, not when there is no __|| thomas graichen longer anything to add, but when there __|| freie universitaet berlin is no longer anything to take away __|| fachbereich physik __|| - Antoine de Saint-Exupery - __|| graichen@mail.physik.fu-berlin.de ___________________________||__________________graichen@FreeBSD.org_________ From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 2 12:29:04 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id MAA08173 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 12:29:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from omega.physik.fu-berlin.de (omega.physik.fu-berlin.de [130.133.3.51]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA08165 for ; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 12:28:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from mordillo (oberon.physik.fu-berlin.de [130.133.3.126]) by omega.physik.fu-berlin.de (8.7.1/8.7.1) with ESMTP id VAA04881; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 21:28:54 +0100 (MET) Received: (from graichen@localhost) by mordillo (8.6.12/8.6.12) id UAA00483; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 20:20:55 +0100 From: Thomas Graichen Message-Id: <199601021920.UAA00483@mordillo> Subject: Re: More info on install problem To: msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au (Michael Smith) Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 20:20:55 +0100 (MET) Cc: DGY@hillae.com, questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <199601020056.LAA02566@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> from "Michael Smith" at Jan 2, 96 11:26:14 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk hasn't Michael Smith said ? ... > > If I continue on with the installation I get the error that I > > have reported before during the creation of /bin: > > > > on the console session: "panic: bad dir" > > > > and on the 2nd screen: "/mnt: bad dir ino 157 at offset 677: > > mangled entry" > this i get if i have set my cahce to 2-1-1-1 in the bios - if i set it to 3-1-1-1 all works fine (it's a amd 486dx4 100) - maybe it's something like this ? t _______________________________________________________||___________________ __|| Perfection is reached, not when there is no __|| thomas graichen longer anything to add, but when there __|| freie universitaet berlin is no longer anything to take away __|| fachbereich physik __|| - Antoine de Saint-Exupery - __|| graichen@mail.physik.fu-berlin.de ___________________________||__________________graichen@FreeBSD.org_________ From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 2 12:29:41 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id MAA08269 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 12:29:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from omega.physik.fu-berlin.de (omega.physik.fu-berlin.de [130.133.3.51]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA08258 for ; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 12:29:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from mordillo (oberon.physik.fu-berlin.de [130.133.3.126]) by omega.physik.fu-berlin.de (8.7.1/8.7.1) with ESMTP id VAA01168; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 21:28:42 +0100 (MET) Received: (from graichen@localhost) by mordillo (8.6.12/8.6.12) id UAA00423; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 20:15:28 +0100 From: Thomas Graichen Message-Id: <199601021915.UAA00423@mordillo> Subject: Re: FreeBSD on 4Mb of RAM To: ranger@server.tversu.ac.ru (Sergey Kachanovsky) Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 20:15:27 +0100 (MET) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <199601011712.UAA13880@server.tversu.ac.ru> from "Sergey Kachanovsky" at Jan 1, 96 08:12:18 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk hasn't Sergey Kachanovsky said ? ... > > Hi there! > > I want to install FreeBSD 2.1.0-RELEASE or 2.0.5-RELEASE at home, but I have > only 4Mb of RAM on my 386dx/40MHz, and I'd like to know, if FreeBSD will > run on such machine with only 4Mb of RAM. Please tell me, what's the lowest > limit of memory on PC for running FreeBSD. > i think 2.1.0 will _run_ with 4 mbyte but you need a minimum of 5 mbyte to install it - maybe you can borrow it from somethere ? - maybe 2.0.5 will also install with 4 mbyte t _______________________________________________________||___________________ __|| Perfection is reached, not when there is no __|| thomas graichen longer anything to add, but when there __|| freie universitaet berlin is no longer anything to take away __|| fachbereich physik __|| - Antoine de Saint-Exupery - __|| graichen@mail.physik.fu-berlin.de ___________________________||__________________graichen@FreeBSD.org_________ From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 2 12:38:36 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id MAA08867 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 12:38:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from toadflax.cs.ucdavis.edu (toadflax.cs.ucdavis.edu [128.120.56.188]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA08860 for ; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 12:38:33 -0800 (PST) Received: by toadflax.cs.ucdavis.edu (4.1/UCD.CS.2.6) id AA10084; Tue, 2 Jan 96 12:38:29 PST From: obrien@cs.ucdavis.edu (David E. O'Brien) Message-Id: <9601022038.AA10084@toadflax.cs.ucdavis.edu> Subject: Re: Windows NT and FreeBSD (fwd) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 12:38:28 -0800 (PST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8b] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk This was posted a while back. I don't know if it works though. -- David (obrien@cs.ucdavis.edu) Forwarded message: >From news.ucdavis.edu!library.ucla.edu!info.ucla.edu!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.sprintlink.net!in1.uu.net!statsci.com!news Wed Oct 18 03:54:48 1995 Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc Path: news.ucdavis.edu!library.ucla.edu!info.ucla.edu!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.sprintlink.net!in1.uu.net!statsci.com!news From: scott@statsci.com (Scott Blachowicz) Subject: Re: Windows NT and FreeBSD In-Reply-To: deng@interport.net's message of 16 Oct 1995 16:05:40 -0400 X-Nntp-Posting-Host: block Message-ID: To: deng@interport.net (Daniel Eng) Lines: 78 Sender: scott@block.statsci.com Reply-To: scott@statsci.com Organization: StatSci div. of MathSoft, Seattle, WA USA X-Newsreader: Gnus v5.0.6 References: <45uduk$ndn@interport.net> Date: Tue, 17 Oct 1995 17:07:50 GMT >>>>> "Daniel" == Daniel Eng Daniel> I'm using the OS-BS program (beta actually) from the CD-ROM to Me too...have you noticed that if you let it time out, it just hangs? It does for me...kinda annoying. Daniel> Not very elegant, but it works. You end up having to use two Daniel> boot loaders. Ahhhh...but you can boot FreeBSD from the NT boot menu. I recently saw this posting on the questions@freebsd.org list: >> Date: Mon, 25 Sep 1995 12:05:29 +0100 >> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >> From: richard@harlequin.co.uk (Richard Brooksby) >> Subject: Booting FreeBSD from the Windows NT Loader >> Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org >> Precedence: bulk >> Content-Length: 2482 >> >> I run my PC with Windows 95, Windows NT, and FreeBSD. I had some problems >> with the FreeBSD boot selector and Windows 95, so I started investigating >> other ways to boot. (Has anyone else had problems with Windows 95 and >> booteasy, by the way?) >> >> I discovered that the Windows NT loader can be configured to run other boot >> sectors from files in the DOS partition. The boot loader's INI file >> (usually C:\BOOT.INI) just needs to be edited to point at the file >> containing the sector. >> >> DON'T ATTEMPT THIS UNLESS YOU KNOW WHAT YOU'RE DOING. I think you must be >> ready to edit partition tables by hand using a sector editor before you >> start mucking about with them, in general. I've had to do this on several >> occasions to avoid trashing Windows NT, which is a bit sensitive about >> them. Make backup copies on floppy disks and make sure you have the >> utilities to put them back if things should go wrong. >> >> To boot FreeBSD from the NT loader, copy your existing boot sector for the >> FreeBSD partition to a file on the DOS C: drive. Something like this will >> do the trick: >> >> dd if=/dev/wd0c of=/freebsd.sec bs=512 count=1 >> >> (Change wd0c to sd0c if you boot from a SCSI disk. You could copy the >> appropriate file from /usr/mdec instead, but I'm typing this from memory on >> my Mac and couldn't tell you which ones offhand. Read the manual.) >> >> Then alter the BOOT.INI file on C: so it contains a line like this under >> the "[operating systems]" heading: >> >> c:\freebsd.sec="FreeBSD" >> >> The NT boot loader will then give you FreeBSD as an option. You can make >> it the default by editing the "DEFAULT=" line in BOOT.INI in the obvious >> manner. >> >> You can also add other boot sectors for other systems, although I haven't >> tried it with the Linux LILO boot loader. >> >> Once you have this working, you can restore the original master boot record >> for DOS or Windows 95 use by running "FDISK /MBR" from DOS. You are less >> likely to have trouble with Windows 95, Windows NT, or OS/2 booting and >> partitioning if you keep the default MBR. >> >> I would be interested to hear from anyone else who uses this trick. Please >> send me some mail if you try it, successfully or not. >> >> FYI, I'm running: >> - FreeBSD 2.0 with a locally patched kernel >> - Windows 95 beta (as released on the Microsoft Developer's Network) >> - Windows NT 3.51 retail version >> >> --- >> Richard Brooksby >> Manager & Developer / Memory Management / Symbolic Processing / Harlequin >> +44 1223 873881 (voice) +44 1223 872519 (fax) and it works great for me. -- Scott Blachowicz Ph: 206/283-8802x240 StatSci, a div of MathSoft, Inc. 1700 Westlake Ave N #500 scott@statsci.com Seattle, WA USA 98109 Scott.Blachowicz@seaslug.org ----- End of forwarded message from obrien ----- From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 2 12:39:14 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id MAA08906 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 12:39:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from toadflax.cs.ucdavis.edu (toadflax.cs.ucdavis.edu [128.120.56.188]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA08900 for ; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 12:39:12 -0800 (PST) Received: by toadflax.cs.ucdavis.edu (4.1/UCD.CS.2.6) id AA10104; Tue, 2 Jan 96 12:39:08 PST From: obrien@cs.ucdavis.edu (David E. O'Brien) Message-Id: <9601022039.AA10104@toadflax.cs.ucdavis.edu> Subject: Re: Windows NT and FreeBSD (part 2) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 12:39:07 -0800 (PST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8b] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Another one... -- David (obrien@cs.ucdavis.edu) Forwarded message: >From news.ucdavis.edu!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!nntp.crl.com!decwrl!purdue!news.bu.edu!acs.bu.edu!mi Wed Oct 18 03:56:06 1995 Path: news.ucdavis.edu!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!nntp.crl.com!decwrl!purdue!news.bu.edu!acs.bu.edu!mi From: mi@bu.edu (Mikhail Teterin) Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc Subject: Re: Windows NT and FreeBSD Date: 17 Oct 1995 17:59:45 GMT Organization: Boston University Lines: 60 Message-ID: <460quh$q42@news.bu.edu> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: acs.bu.edu X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Some time ago (Sun, 15 Oct 1995 16:29:15 GMT) honorable Steve Moubray, residing at smoubray@dcc.com wrote: |I need to run MS-DOS, Windows NT and FreeBSD on one 4G SCSI drive. |What is the easiest way to get FreeBSD and Windows NT to co-exist? I |installed FreeBSD after Windows NT and even though I selected to leave |the boot record intact, FreeBSD ate it up and I could no longer run |NT. Luckily I made a backup. |When I load one of the operating systems I'm there for a few hours so |I don't really need a quick way to go from one OS to another. I just |need a way that is simple with little risk of problems. Here is a suggestion to try in your case, posted some time ago by a Linux user: >mi@cs.bu.edu (Mikhail Teterin) wrote: >>I'm going to have them both on the same hard-drive. Is there any FAQ? >>Non of the systems is already installed. I am also interesting in the >>file-system co-existance. Or should I only use FAT-fs to share files? >> >They will coexist but you will not be able to use the NT boot manager. >You will have to use the FreeBSD boot manager. Maybe not. I have added my Linux partition to the NT boot menu. So I don't have to use one boot manager for every os I've installed (DOS, Win95, WinNT, Linux). I'll describe the easiest way in short: - write a copy of your FreeBSD's boot sector to a file. It should be the first sector of your FreeBSD boot partiotion. It shouldn't be very difficult at all. I'm using diskedit from Norton Utilities 5.0, but there should be numerous other programs. - This copy will be used to boot FreeBSD. Everytime the boot sector changes, you have to redo the first step. With Linux & lilo this is everytime you change your /etc/lilo.conf and run lilo. (The config information is held in the boot sector; BTW you shouldn't use the partition table for lilo :-) - In the root directory of your NT boot partition the is a hidden and read- only file called boot.ini. Unhide it (and make it read!) and load it into an editor; it's plain ascii. Add a line like C:\boot.bsd="FreeBSD" where the part in front of the equal sign is the filename of the boot sector and the part behind is the Text that shows up in the menu. - Save boot.ini, make it read only and hidden and you're ready!!! My first experiences tried to address the boot sector direct (something like "multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(4)"), but that wasn't succesfull. -- Meik.Langwald@Materna.DE You have new mail. ============================================================================= -mi -- hot-dog apple-pie baseball Chevrolet ----- End of forwarded message from obrien ----- From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 2 12:40:18 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id MAA09071 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 12:40:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from dub-mail-svc-1.compuserve.com (dub-mail-svc-1.compuserve.com [149.174.213.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA09060 for ; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 12:40:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from berend (dd15-016.compuserve.com [199.174.157.16]) by dub-mail-svc-1.compuserve.com (8.6.10/8.6.9) with SMTP id PAA18496.; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 15:39:58 -0500 Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 15:39:58 -0500 Message-Id: <199601022039.PAA18496@dub-mail-svc-1.compuserve.com> X-Mailer: NCSA Mosaic/2.0.0 Final Beta (Windows x86) X-URL: http://www.freebsd.org//support.html From: berend@beard.nest.nl (Berend de Boer) To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Installing over ethernet Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hello All, I like to install FreeBSD to a machine with no CD-Rom attached. Another machine running Windows NT has a CD-Rom. In both machines I've an ethernet card. Can I install FreeBSD when I login to the Windows NT machine? I can login to the Windows NT machine as: 1. using Lantastic with SMB support. 2. Some FreeBSD pre-install disk/boot process, and FTP it from the Windows NT machine?? Anyone done this (probably not) but maybe you have any hints. Thanks, Berend. From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 2 12:44:07 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id MAA09280 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 12:44:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from merit.edu (merit.edu [35.1.1.42]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA09270 for ; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 12:44:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from ohm.merit.edu (ohm.merit.edu [198.108.60.65]) by merit.edu (8.6.12/merit-2.0) with ESMTP id PAA20550 for ; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 15:44:01 -0500 From: William Bulley Received: (web@localhost) by ohm.merit.edu (8.6.9/8.6.5) id PAA16382 for questions@FreeBSD.org; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 15:53:23 -0500 Message-Id: <199601022053.PAA16382@ohm.merit.edu> Subject: which vi is used in FreeBSD 2.1 ?? To: questions@FreeBSD.org Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 15:53:22 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Subject says it all. Some modern flavours of UNIX on PCs use a less that true Bill Joy derived version of vi. Which version if vi does FreeBSD use in 2.1 release? Regards, web... -- William Bulley, N8NXN Senior Systems Research Programmer Merit Network Inc. Domain: web@merit.edu 4251 Plymouth Road MaBell: (313) 764-9993 Ann Arbor, Michigan 48105-2785 Fax: (313) 747-3185 From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 2 12:52:14 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id MAA09693 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 12:52:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from chemserv.umd.edu (chemserv.umd.edu [129.2.64.40]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA09686 for ; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 12:52:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from latte.eng.umd.edu (latte.eng.umd.edu [129.2.98.15]) by chemserv.umd.edu (8.7.3/8.7) with ESMTP id PAA19790; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 15:52:03 -0500 (EST) Received: (chuckr@localhost) by latte.eng.umd.edu (8.7.3/8.6.4) id PAA09215; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 15:52:01 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 15:51:57 -0500 (EST) From: Chuck Robey X-Sender: chuckr@latte.eng.umd.edu To: Binh Do cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Can FreeBSD be visible from Win95? In-Reply-To: <9601021105.ZM6708@columbia.cs.ubc.ca> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 2 Jan 1996, Binh Do wrote: > As I have both Win95 and FreeBSD and as I specified /win95 as a mount partition > of FreeBSD I can access Win95 from within FreeBSD. But is there any way to view > FreeBSD from within Win95? Thank you for the information. > > PS. One more question. Can I somehow write to /win95 partition from FreeBSD? I > tried to chmod to write but could not? Do I have to specify it during > installation? > Reading from dos partitions seems to be pretty safe, but there is a bug in the msdos filesystem implementation (FreeBSD's implementation) and writing, while it is possible to force it, is a very bad idea. I don't think I'd do it, without an awfully good reason, and a complete backup of the disk involved. > > -- > > Binh Do > Department Of Computer Science > University Of BC, Canada > ============================================================================ Chuck Robey chuckr@eng.umd.edu -- I run FreeBSD on n3lxx and Journey2 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- The Dilbert Zone is Dilbert's new WWW home! The area features never-before-seen original sketches of Dilbert, a photo tour of Scott Adams' studio, Dilbert Trivia and memorabilia, high school photos and much more!: From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 2 13:20:59 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id NAA11139 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 13:20:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA11134 for ; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 13:20:55 -0800 (PST) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id OAA12576; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 14:12:19 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199601022112.OAA12576@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: FreeBSD and NT To: rogersb@synrome.com (Rogers, Bradley) Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 14:12:19 -0700 (MST) Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <9601021730.AA04091@uu10.psi.com> from "Rogers, Bradley" at Jan 2, 96 12:31:11 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk > 1) Can FreeBSD and Windows NT 3.51 reside on the same machine? Yes. You will probably want to install NT first. > 2) If so, are there restrictions on various versions, or do they all work? No restrictions that I know of. Newer is better, as a general rule of thumb, however. > 3) If so, should I be using the FreeBSD boot manager, or the NT boot manager? Probably the NT boot manager. You will need to dd off the first 16k of the raw BSD partition (which includes the disklabel) and use that as the BSD boot file. This procedure is archived in the mailing list archives on www.freebsd.org; look for "NT" in the subject line. > 4) If so, does FreeBSD have any ability to mount NTFS filesystems? Yes and no. Yes, there is a read-only NTFS (apparently the author didn't want to bother deciphering the logging mechanism), but it isn't generally available or redistributable at this point. You will have to go to the author's posting on the -hackers list (see the mailing list archives again) for contact information. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 2 13:27:32 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id NAA11472 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 13:27:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu (halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu [18.26.0.159]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA11464 for ; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 13:27:26 -0800 (PST) Received: by halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu; (5.65/1.1.8.2/19Aug95-0530PM) id AA18783; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 16:27:24 -0500 Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 16:27:24 -0500 From: "Garrett A. Wollman" Message-Id: <9601022127.AA18783@halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu> To: William Bulley Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: which vi is used in FreeBSD 2.1 ?? In-Reply-To: <199601022053.PAA16382@ohm.merit.edu> References: <199601022053.PAA16382@ohm.merit.edu> Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk < said: > Subject says it all. Some modern flavours of UNIX on PCs use > a less that true Bill Joy derived version of vi. Which version > if vi does FreeBSD use in 2.1 release? The `vi' that Bill Joy wrote was derived from the source code to the `ed' that belonged (at the time) to Ma Bell. You would have to pay a large amount of money to the current owners of that source code (I think it's still Novell) to buy a source license. -GAWollman -- Garrett A. Wollman | Shashish is simple, it's discreet, it's brief. ... wollman@lcs.mit.edu | Shashish is the bonding of hearts in spite of distance. Opinions not those of| It is a bond more powerful than absence. We like people MIT, LCS, ANA, or NSA| who like Shashish. - Claude McKenzie + Florent Vollant From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 2 13:38:02 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id NAA12434 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 13:38:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from merit.edu (merit.edu [35.1.1.42]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA12404 for ; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 13:37:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from ohm.merit.edu (ohm.merit.edu [198.108.60.65]) by merit.edu (8.6.12/merit-2.0) with ESMTP id QAA22292; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 16:37:21 -0500 From: William Bulley Received: (web@localhost) by ohm.merit.edu (8.6.9/8.6.5) id QAA17078; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 16:46:43 -0500 Message-Id: <199601022146.QAA17078@ohm.merit.edu> Subject: Re: which vi is used in FreeBSD 2.1 ?? To: wollman@lcs.mit.edu (Garrett A. Wollman) Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 16:46:43 -0500 (EST) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <9601022127.AA18783@halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu> from "Garrett A. Wollman" at Jan 2, 96 04:27:24 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk According to Garrett A. Wollman: > > The `vi' that Bill Joy wrote was derived from the source code to the > `ed' that belonged (at the time) to Ma Bell. You would have to pay a > large amount of money to the current owners of that source code (I > think it's still Novell) to buy a source license. Thanks! So, whose (or which) vi wannabe is part of FreeBSD 2.1? Regards, web... -- William Bulley, N8NXN Senior Systems Research Programmer Merit Network Inc. Domain: web@merit.edu 4251 Plymouth Road MaBell: (313) 764-9993 Ann Arbor, Michigan 48105-2785 Fax: (313) 747-3185 From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 2 13:38:03 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id NAA12436 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 13:38:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from iii1.iii.net (root@iii1.iii.net [199.232.40.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA12402 for ; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 13:37:31 -0800 (PST) Received: (from shorty@localhost) by iii1.iii.net (8.6.8/8.6.6) id QAA02842; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 16:37:03 -0500 Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 16:37:03 -0500 From: Justin Seger Message-Id: <199601022137.QAA02842@iii1.iii.net> To: graichen@omega.physik.fu-berlin.de, ranger@server.tversu.ac.ru Subject: Re: FreeBSD on 4Mb of RAM Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >maybe 2.0.5 will also install with 4mbyte I installed 2.0.5 with 4MB of RAM with no problems at all. -Justin Seger- From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 2 13:38:36 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id NAA12496 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 13:38:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from io.org (io.org [142.77.70.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA12448 for ; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 13:38:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.io.org (dyna-9.net7d.io.org [204.92.51.9]) by io.org (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id QAA21128; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 16:37:35 -0500 Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 16:37:35 -0500 Message-Id: <199601022137.QAA21128@io.org> X-Sender: scouch@io.org X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Donald Burr From: Stephen Couchman Subject: Eureka, it finally works! ;-))) Cc: questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk First thanks to all (there were many - Johnathan, Donald, Gary, Barry, and others) who helped me on this. The problem was a faulty serial cable. It seems that the cable worked in DOS, with tip and cu, but not iij-ppp. I tried the new cable with my 1200 baud, and it works. I now have the 28.8 Kb modem. At least I learned a lot about ppp and serial comms in general, and met a bunch of interesting folks. Thanks again -- Stephen At 10:49 AM 1/2/96 -0800, you wrote: >On Tue, 2 Jan 1996, Donald Burr wrote: > >> [...my solution...] > >To further elaborate, when you used tip and cu to access your modem, it >worked, because AFAIK tip/cu don't indiscriminately set crtscts on the >port they're accessing. In fact, most programs don't. This is why >/etc/rc.serial exists, so that default parameters for each serial port >can be set. If you had a high speed modem and tried using it with >tip/cu, CRTSCTS would not be enabled, and because the modems weren't >handshaking, you'd end up with a lot of lost data and other nastiness due >to the high modem speed. > ______________________________ Stephen Couchman | scouch@io.org From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 2 13:45:52 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id NAA12994 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 13:45:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA12975 Tue, 2 Jan 1996 13:45:44 -0800 (PST) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id OAA12678; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 14:37:03 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199601022137.OAA12678@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: Network Card id code To: james@else.net (James FitzGibbon) Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 14:37:02 -0700 (MST) Cc: questions@freebsd.org, hackers@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "James FitzGibbon" at Dec 30, 95 03:44:52 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > I've got a system running with FreeBSD that has an unknown PCI ethernet > adapter in it. It's not detected by anything in the GENERIC kernel under > 2.1R or 2.2-current. The card is pretty generic, supporting BNC and > 10BaseT. It has a "Runs with Novell"-type sticker on the main chip. Means it has (at least) an ODI client driver. It *might* have an ODI server driver. You will need to know the vendor/device id to driver mapping to make a driver see it. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 2 13:48:31 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id NAA13150 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 13:48:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts13-line6.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.155]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA13143 for ; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 13:48:20 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id NAA00232; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 13:48:38 -0800 Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 13:48:37 -0800 (PST) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Binh Do cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Can FreeBSD be visible from Win95? In-Reply-To: <9601021105.ZM6708@columbia.cs.ubc.ca> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On Tue, 2 Jan 1996, Binh Do wrote: > As I have both Win95 and FreeBSD and as I specified /win95 as a mount partition > of FreeBSD I can access Win95 from within FreeBSD. But is there any way to view > FreeBSD from within Win95? Thank you for the information. No. Windows 95 does not support the Unix filesystem. > PS. One more question. Can I somehow write to /win95 partition from FreeBSD? I > tried to chmod to write but could not? Do I have to specify it during > installation? That would not be a good idea, since the msdosfs code is so old. Writing runs the risk of corrupting your FAT. Besides, Windows 95 does not like anything messing with the FAT and not the VFAT. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@gladstone.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 2 13:52:43 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id NAA13416 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 13:52:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts13-line6.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.155]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA13407 for ; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 13:52:33 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id NAA00242; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 13:52:52 -0800 Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 13:52:52 -0800 (PST) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Mark Graves cc: "'questions@freebsd.org'" Subject: Re: FreeBSD 2.1 Post-Install Config In-Reply-To: <30E9B988@acog.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 2 Jan 1996, Mark Graves wrote: > While running /stand/sysinstall I select Configure to do a post-install > config of BSD. Next I select Networking to config additional network > services. I now want to select Interfaces to Configure additional > network interfaces, but nothing happens. I expected to have a screen > where I could configure my NE2000, but the screen doesn't change. What > am I doing wrong? Don't forget to put a check in the box by hitting , then to configure. If you did a FTP install, then it was configured already. > PS. Still having problems with your multi-boot program. If I make a > floppy to boot from, how do I automatically make it mount hd(1,a)/kernel > and NOT fd(1,a)/kernel? Consider changing boot manager to LILO -- I have > used that with Linux without any problems for years. Your's continues to > generate a BIOS error when I put it on my WD controller. You can try to rewrite the floppy image using a modified boot program. I tried to do that once. I have no idea how to modify the code to change the boot location. I use OS/2's Boot Manager, so when I select that partition, I just have to hit enter to get it to boot. You could use the OS-BS utility, available in the tools/dos directory, for a replacement boot manager. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@gladstone.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 2 13:54:31 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id NAA13502 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 13:54:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts13-line6.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.155]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA13491 for ; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 13:54:26 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id NAA00249; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 13:54:44 -0800 Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 13:54:44 -0800 (PST) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: "Rogers, Bradley" cc: FreeBSD_Questions Subject: Re: FreeBSD and NT In-Reply-To: <9601021730.AA04091@uu10.psi.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On 2 Jan 1996, Rogers, Bradley wrote: > 1) Can FreeBSD and Windows NT 3.51 reside on the same machine? Certainly. I have OS/2 (close enough to NT :) ), DOS, and FreeBSD working together here. > 2) If so, are there restrictions on various versions, or do they all work? The only restriction is the number of systems. You still only have 4 slices for stuff. > 3) If so, should I be using the FreeBSD boot manager, or the NT boot manager? I don't run NT so I have no idea :) I remember faintly that the NT bm is not that great. OS/2's Boot Manager is superb. > 4) If so, does FreeBSD have any ability to mount NTFS filesystems? No. > When I subscribed to this list several months ago I seem to recall seeing some > discussion of these questions. Unfortunately I don't remember the responses. You can look in the mail archive on www.freebsd.org. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@gladstone.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 2 14:37:09 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id OAA15949 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 14:37:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from hp.com (hp.com [15.255.152.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA15931 for ; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 14:36:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from hpautobo.aus.hp.com by hp.com with ESMTP (1.37.109.16/15.5+ECS 3.3) id AA107792214; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 14:36:55 -0800 Message-Id: <199601022236.AA107792214@hp.com> Received: by hpautobo.aus.hp.com (1.37.109.16/16.2) id AA164922212; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 09:36:52 +1100 From: M C Wong Subject: MetaCard 2.0 beta-test release (fwd) To: freebsd-questions@freefall.FreeBSD.org (freebsd-questions@freefall.cdrom.com) Date: Wed, 3 Jan 96 9:36:52 EDT Mailer: Elm [revision: 70.85] Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- The Linux version of MetaCard 2.0 (demand-paged ZMAGIC format). I ran the demo and it ran fine to the end as on Linux machine. Maybe someone want to add it to the commercial distribution ? Has anyone tried out demo version of ishmail for Linux ? I can't remember where the ftp site is now, 8-(((( > The first beta-test release of MetaCard 2.0 is now available via > anonymous FTP from ftp.metacard.com:/MetaCard/2.0. This release is > primarily a polished up version of the alphas, but a few new features > have been added since 2.0A2. Among them, a "move" command that does > speed-controlled animations, the ability to send delayed events with > the send command, HTML import/export for fields, and some new visual > effect options. See the README.2.0 file for details, and all new > features are documented in the MetaTalk Reference. > Note that in order to support storage of the new custom properties, > the MetaCard file format has changed. Therefore, you should make > reliable backups of your stacks before you open them with 2.0B1. This > release should be stable, however, so you might consider switching > over to it for primary development rather than just making a cursory > evaluation of it. > Despite recording many downloads of the alpha-test releases, we > received very few bug and feature-request reports. We hope that > during the (hopefully brief) beta process, that you can report > problems and ask questions *as soon as they come up*. > The SPARC, SPARCSVR4, IRIS (Irix 5.3-6.X), HP9K700, RS6000, Linux, > ODT, and Alpha engines have been built for this release. If you want > to run it on one of the other platforms, please email to > support@metacard.com and ask for it. The IntelSVR4, Sun3, DEC, > HP9K300, and 88open engines are scheduled to be built for the final > release. We plan to discontinue the DESQview/X and IRIS4 engines. > You can use your 1.4 Home stack with this release, or use your 1.4 > key to relicense the 2.0 Home stack. This release is time-limited, > and will not be able to edit stacks after Jan 31, 1996. While the > engine will continue to function after that date, it will treat all > Home stacks as being unlicensed and so will not allow saving. > We are now accepting orders for the 2.0 release, which we plan to > release in mid-February. Due to the wealth of new features and > performance improvements, MetaCard is now even more competitive with > professional GUI development, CBT development, and high-end multimedia > tools. We are therefore raising the price of the product accordingly. > The price for a single user license for 2.0 will be $995 > (U.S. dollars), $3600 for a 5 pack, and $5000 for a 10 pack. The > upgrade charge will be the difference between the old and new prices. > To help encourage you to make the transition to 2.0 sooner rather than > later, we are offering a limited-time $100 discount on the upgrade > price (i.e. $400 instead of $500 to upgrade a single user license). > This offer will be in effect from now until 30 days after the 2.0 > release. - - -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ M.C Wong Email: mcw@hpato.aus.hp.com Australian Telecom Operation Voice: +61 3 9210 5568 Hewlett-Packard Australia Ltd Fax: +61 3 9210 5550 P.O. Box 221, Blackburn 3130, Australia OS: FreeBSD-1.1.5.1 http://www-ato.aus.hp.com/~mcw -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2i iQCVAwUBMOmzfEmThh0X7Um5AQEenwP/U1J6a9TNx7Vq07n9hLo2uA5+mJUE4sSe 5XjlZGRH1x/4YWv+hJ2Qgl6sxP48dbp0FKLG957SRqLR8ZUkixysG2NY4l7Ej0vj 96ETf9qcoXPOQrYApff3SHdmRvy3cd8kpv7m7gAEPgWqfsznPB+bUi2GRSxvtgWR 9iCxyvyc8r4= =FWAs -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 2 14:48:07 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id OAA16717 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 14:48:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from chemserv.umd.edu (chemserv.umd.edu [129.2.64.40]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA16698 for ; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 14:47:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from latte.eng.umd.edu (latte.eng.umd.edu [129.2.98.15]) by chemserv.umd.edu (8.7.3/8.7) with ESMTP id RAA21361 for ; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 17:47:56 -0500 (EST) Received: (chuckr@localhost) by latte.eng.umd.edu (8.7.3/8.6.4) id RAA11469; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 17:47:55 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 17:47:48 -0500 (EST) From: Chuck Robey X-Sender: chuckr@latte.eng.umd.edu To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: New mouse Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I tried to keep this question off this list, but I have been patiently waiting responses from several other sources, and they don't seem to be panning out. I wanted to replace my old Addison trackballs with new ones, because their action was getting quite jerky. I insist on getting a track ball with this geometry: /------------------+---+---+---\ | | | | | | | | | | | --- +---+---+---| | ( ) | | ___ | | | \------------------------------/ Excuse my miserable graphics, but that's the best I can produce. Anyhow, I wasn't willing to pay $90 each for Logitech models, but I found some no-name models that claimed Microsoft compatibility and ran $20 each. My problem is that, un XFree86, the middle mouse button won't work. I've tried all the obvious combinations I could define from the XConfig file, but I still couldn't get it to work. I would really like some help. Of course, if someone said "RTFM, you fool" and included a reference to the FM, I would be even happier. Even if it meant buying a book. ============================================================================ Chuck Robey chuckr@eng.umd.edu -- I run FreeBSD on n3lxx and Journey2 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- The Dilbert Zone is Dilbert's new WWW home! The area features never-before-seen original sketches of Dilbert, a photo tour of Scott Adams' studio, Dilbert Trivia and memorabilia, high school photos and much more!: From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 2 15:08:51 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id PAA18295 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 15:08:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from ncd.com (firewall-user@welch.ncd.com [192.43.160.250]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA18290 for ; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 15:08:48 -0800 (PST) Received: by ncd.com; id PAA14629; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 15:35:33 -0800 Received: from z-code.z-code.com(192.82.56.21) by welch.ncd.com via smap (g3.0.1) id xma014618; Tue, 2 Jan 96 15:35:29 -0800 Received: from zolaris.z-code.com (zolaris.z-code.com [192.82.56.41]) by z-code.z-code.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id PAA02856; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 15:06:49 -0800 Received: by zolaris.z-code.com (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA26863; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 15:04:37 -0800 From: "Ulf Zimmermann" Message-Id: <9601021504.ZM26861@zolaris.z-code.com> Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 15:04:36 -0800 In-Reply-To: William Bulley "Re: which vi is used in FreeBSD 2.1 ??" (Jan 2, 16:46) References: <199601022146.QAA17078@ohm.merit.edu> X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.0 06sep94) To: William Bulley , wollman@lcs.mit.edu (Garrett A. Wollman) Subject: Re: which vi is used in FreeBSD 2.1 ?? Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On Jan 2, 16:46, William Bulley wrote: > Subject: Re: which vi is used in FreeBSD 2.1 ?? > According to Garrett A. Wollman: > > > > The `vi' that Bill Joy wrote was derived from the source code to the > > `ed' that belonged (at the time) to Ma Bell. You would have to pay a > > large amount of money to the current owners of that source code (I > > think it's still Novell) to buy a source license. Nope. It is not Novell anymore. It is SCO (Santa Cruz Operatingsystems) > > Thanks! > > So, whose (or which) vi wannabe is part of FreeBSD 2.1? > > Regards, > > web... > >-- End of excerpt from William Bulley Ulf. -- Ulf Zimmermann, NCD Software, 101 Rowland Way, Suite 300, Novato, CA 94945 phone: 415-899-7941, email: ulf@z-code.ncd.com, phone-home: 510-865-0204 ====================================== FreeBSD 2.1.0 is available now! -------------------------------------- FreeBSD: Turning PCs into Workstations ====================================== From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 2 15:54:20 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id PAA21106 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 15:54:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from strider.ibenet.it (root@Strider.Free.IT [194.179.131.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA21093 for ; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 15:54:03 -0800 (PST) Received: (from piero@localhost) by strider.ibenet.it (8.7.3/8.6.12) id AAA11516; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 00:50:23 +0100 (MET) From: Piero Serini Message-Id: <199601022350.AAA11516@strider.ibenet.it> Subject: Re: NETBSD ccd driver To: davidg@Root.COM Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 00:50:22 +0100 (MET) Cc: eblood@winky.reno.nv.us, questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199512292314.PAA02874@corbin.Root.COM> from "David Greenman" at Dec 29, 95 03:14:10 pm Reply-To: piero@strider.ibenet.it Operating-System: FreeBSD 1.1.5.1 X-Phone-Number: +39 (2) 58113562 X-NCC-RegID: it.ibenet X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Hello. Quoting from David Greenman (Sat Dec 30 00:14:10 1995): > >What is the NetBSD ccd driver? > > It's the "concatenated disk" driver. It give you the ability to combine > multiple physical disks into one logical volume. What's the benefit as opposed to, say, 5 different mounts? Bye, -- # $Id: .signature,v 1.12 1995/08/14 12:10:54 piero Exp $ Piero Serini Via Giambologna, 1 I 20136 Milano - ITALY From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 2 16:40:51 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id QAA23440 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 16:40:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA23433 for ; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 16:40:46 -0800 (PST) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id RAA13203; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 17:30:46 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199601030030.RAA13203@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: Can FreeBSD be visible from Win95? To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 17:30:45 -0700 (MST) Cc: binhdo@cs.ubc.ca, questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: from "Doug White" at Jan 2, 96 01:48:37 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk > > As I have both Win95 and FreeBSD and as I specified /win95 as a > > mount partition of FreeBSD I can access Win95 from within FreeBSD. > > But is there any way to view FreeBSD from within Win95? Thank you > > for the information. > > No. Windows 95 does not support the Unix filesystem. Well. It goes to internal Alpha on the 12th. 8-). But in order to support short file names, the on disk directory structure had to change... 8-(. But the new devfs should allow it to be auto-recognized. 8-). But there's no code to do that yet. 8-(. [ ... ] > Besides, Windows 95 does not like > anything messing with the FAT and not the VFAT. It doesn't bitch too loudly. See "Unauthorized Windows 95" by Schulman. From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 2 17:00:55 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id RAA24606 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 17:00:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from nightflight.com (nightflight.com [205.162.141.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA24600 for ; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 17:00:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from laptop.nightflight (laptop [205.162.141.3]) by nightflight.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id RAA20354 for ; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 17:05:06 -0800 Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 17:05:06 -0800 Message-Id: <199601030105.RAA20354@nightflight.com> X-Sender: gcrutchr@nightflight.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: questions@freebsd.org From: Gary Crutcher Subject: @.1 Installation on 2nd SCSI drive Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I have a Web site using FreeBSD 2.05. I have a 2nd SCSI drive I just installed. I need to keep my site up and running during the change over to v2.1. I plan on getting the 2.1 CD from Walnut Creek to do this. 1. Is it possible to install v2.1 on the 2nd SCSI drive? 2. If so, how would I go about doing this, and then make the switch over. Each drive has a 2.1 GB capacity. Thanks, Gary Crutcher Webmaster ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Gary Crutcher email: gcrutchr@nightflight.com Webmaster URL: http://www.nightflight.com 'Flights throughout the Internet' voice: 619-631-0666 ----------------------------------------------------------------------  From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 2 17:26:51 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id RAA26340 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 17:26:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from seraglio.staidan.qld.edu.au (staidans.client.uq.edu.au [130.102.39.106]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA26333 for ; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 17:26:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from aidan.staidan.qld.edu.au (aidan.staidan.qld.edu.au [203.12.39.2]) by seraglio.staidan.qld.edu.au (8.6.11/8.6.9) with ESMTP id LAA04181; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 11:25:34 +1000 Received: from AIDAN/SpoolDir by aidan.staidan.qld.edu.au (Mercury 1.21); 3 Jan 96 11:25:37 -1000 Received: from SpoolDir by AIDAN (Mercury 1.21); 3 Jan 96 11:25:07 -1000 From: "Peter Stubbs" Organization: St Aidan's A.G.S. To: Carlton Brown Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 11:25:05 -1000 Subject: Re: OK, so I'm doing something stupid... CC: questions@freebsd.org Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.23) Message-ID: <17F80083F3C@aidan.staidan.qld.edu.au> Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On 29 Dec 95 at 16:35, Carlton Brown wrote: > Ok, I'm trying to get my FreeBSD machine to accept dialup, and I've > gotten the modem to pick up the line. My DTR light is on, and I > can't seem to get my FreeBSD server to respond to the call. Is > there something I still need to do, to tell FreeBSD to look for > incoming calls once the modem picks them up? Maybe this is some > kind of network configuration? I do have a terminal (Windows > Telnet) on the local area network, that FreeBSD seems to accept > connections from, just fine... Help! I must be doing something > incredibly stupid! > > carlton@sierra.net > There's a couple of other things you need to do. Firstly configure the dialup port, and secondly get a getty running on the dialup port. To configure the dialup ( I'll assume it's sio0 that you're using) in your /etc/rc.local put a line like stty -f /dev/ttyid0 crtscts 115200 to configure the serial line. Don't use 115200 unless you have a v34 modem & 16550 UARTs, use something slower, 19200 or 38400. Then you neet to add the getty line to /etc/ttys ttyd0 "/usr/libexec/getty std.115200" ansi on secure lastly edit your /etc/gettytab to have an entry like std.115200|115200-baud:\ :np:sp#115200: You can just copy the 9600 baud entry & put in the correct speed. One little hint, ttyid0 is the device you use to configure ttyd0, similarly for dialout devices, cuaia0 is for cuaa0. I'm no unix guru, but my system works, so I hope you can get yours going. Cheers, Peter Peter Stubbs, St Aidan's AGS. ph +61-07-3379-9911, fax +61-07-3379-9432 From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 2 17:30:25 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id RAA26489 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 17:30:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from iii1.iii.net (root@iii1.iii.net [199.232.40.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA26482 for ; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 17:30:19 -0800 (PST) Received: (from shorty@localhost) by iii1.iii.net (8.6.8/8.6.6) id UAA14774 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 20:29:51 -0500 Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 20:29:51 -0500 From: Justin Seger Message-Id: <199601030129.UAA14774@iii1.iii.net> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Basic Firewalling? Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I've got a LAN with real network addresses, and a SLIP connection. Routing isn't working between the two (except on the FreeBSD machine), and I found out that AOL's TCPack (the major thing I need to use) operates on port 5190. Is there anyway I can do something to get connectivity working on port 5190? Thanks in advance, -Justyin Seger- From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 2 18:48:49 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id SAA29713 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 18:48:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from neptune.pristine.com.tw ([192.72.150.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA29706 for ; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 18:48:46 -0800 (PST) Received: (from team_fbf@localhost) by neptune.pristine.com.tw (8.6.11/8.6.9) id KAA02850 for questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 10:47:31 GMT From: ywliu Message-Id: <199601031047.KAA02850@neptune.pristine.com.tw> Subject: Majordomo question : where to find it ? To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 10:47:31 +0000 () X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hi, Where can I find a workable version of Majordomo, like the one freebsd.org is using ? I have tried to use 1.93 under 2.05R, but a lot of strange things did occur so I have to give it up. Yen-Wei Liu From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 2 19:00:58 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id TAA00196 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 19:00:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA00190 for ; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 19:00:53 -0800 (PST) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id TAA13447; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 19:50:33 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199601030250.TAA13447@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: NETBSD ccd driver To: piero@strider.ibenet.it Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 19:50:33 -0700 (MST) Cc: davidg@root.com, eblood@winky.reno.nv.us, questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199601022350.AAA11516@strider.ibenet.it> from "Piero Serini" at Jan 3, 96 00:50:22 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk > Quoting from David Greenman (Sat Dec 30 00:14:10 1995): > > >What is the NetBSD ccd driver? > > > > It's the "concatenated disk" driver. It give you the ability to combine > > multiple physical disks into one logical volume. > > What's the benefit as opposed to, say, 5 different mounts? If you are silly enough to gate the news group "junk", it lets you fit all 220M/day onto two 150M drives mounted on the directory "junk". Basically its for things that don't split well at a mount point, like large dirs that can't be fixed, or big files that wouldn't normally fit on your drive. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 2 19:02:34 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id TAA00253 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 19:02:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA00244 for ; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 19:02:26 -0800 (PST) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id TAA13456; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 19:53:10 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199601030253.TAA13456@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: New mouse To: chuckr@Glue.umd.edu (Chuck Robey) Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 19:53:10 -0700 (MST) Cc: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: from "Chuck Robey" at Jan 2, 96 05:47:48 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk > I tried to keep this question off this list, but I have been patiently > waiting responses from several other sources, and they don't seem to be > panning out. I wanted to replace my old Addison trackballs with new > ones, because their action was getting quite jerky. I insist on getting > a track ball with this geometry: > > /------------------+---+---+---\ > | | | | | > | | | | | > | --- +---+---+---| > | ( ) | > | ___ | > | | > \------------------------------/ > Excuse my miserable graphics, but that's the best I can produce. Anyhow, > I wasn't willing to pay $90 each for Logitech models, but I found some > no-name models that claimed Microsoft compatibility and ran $20 each. My > problem is that, un XFree86, the middle mouse button won't work. I've > tried all the obvious combinations I could define from the XConfig file, > but I still couldn't get it to work. I would really like some help. > > Of course, if someone said "RTFM, you fool" and included a reference to > the FM, I would be even happier. Even if it meant buying a book. Well, other than cleaning your old trackball, you probably want to hold down the left mouse button while you are powering on and/or when you start the X server. Many of these sill "MS compatible" mice with three buttons will switch modes based on the left button being down at power on. If it's really old, there's probably a small switch somewhere. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 2 19:09:21 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id TAA00503 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 19:09:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from bambi.pomona.edu (bambi.pomona.edu [134.173.64.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA00498 for ; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 19:09:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from POMONA.EDU by POMONA.EDU (PMDF V5.0-4 #12356) id <01HZJNGCRC4G8WWO1J@POMONA.EDU> for questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 02 Jan 1996 19:09:07 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 02 Jan 1996 19:09:07 -0800 (PST) From: JOHN Subject: How to change default shell? To: questions@freebsd.org Message-id: <01HZJNGCT0EA8WWO1J@POMONA.EDU> X-VMS-To: IN%"questions@freebsd.org" MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I can't find a usermod command, so first I tried directly editing the /etc/passwd file. But that did not work, so I then tried editing the /etc/master.passwd file as well (should this be done?) I just want to have bash as the default shell rather than csh, but even with these fields changed, csh remains the default. Also, what is the purpose of the master.passwd file? Is it just to implement password shadowing? Thanks John From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 2 19:17:18 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id TAA00864 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 19:17:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from beaver.cs.washington.edu (beaver.cs.washington.edu [128.95.1.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA00853 for ; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 19:17:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from tera.com (tera.com [128.95.3.1]) by beaver.cs.washington.edu (8.7.2/7.1be+) with SMTP id TAA03549 for ; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 19:17:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from athena.tera.com by tera.com (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AA10119; Tue, 2 Jan 96 19:16:18 PST From: kline@tera.com (Gary Kline) Message-Id: <9601030316.AA10119@tera.com> Subject: Cnews To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 19:16:31 -0800 (PST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Has anybody gotten cnews to run? I'm running into major problems.... It build finally, but the regression tests fail because ctime -u matches ctime -i. : ctime test "`./ctime -u 756362361`" = "Mon Dec 20 04:39:21 1993" test "`./ctime -i 756362361`" = "Mon, 20 Dec 1993 04:39:21 GMT" : getabsdate test "`./getabsdate 'Mon Dec 20 04:39:21 GMT 1993'`" = "756362361" Memory fault *** Error code 1 Something may be wrong with my `date' settings, or... ?? Any ideas, people? Thanks much. gary kline From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 2 19:43:45 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id TAA03268 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 19:43:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from fieber-john.campusview.indiana.edu (Fieber-John.campusview.indiana.edu [149.159.1.34]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA03262 for ; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 19:43:40 -0800 (PST) Received: (from jfieber@localhost) by fieber-john.campusview.indiana.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id WAA03814; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 22:43:38 -0500 Message-Id: <30E1EEF3.3859@earthlink.net> Date: Wed, 27 Dec 1995 17:12:19 -0800 From: Henry David X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0b2 (Windows; I; 32bit) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: www@freebsd.org Subject: I really need help X-Url: http://www.freebsd.org/ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ReSent-Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 22:43:33 -0500 (EST) ReSent-From: John Fieber ReSent-To: questions@freebsd.org ReSent-Message-ID: Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I basically got FreeBSD to help me to compile all of these uncompilable programs, that I couldn' compile in Windows95/DOS. Well I just found out that I can't transfer my files from my MS-DOS drive to my FreeBSD drive and this puts me a bit of a bind. Also my cdrom, nor my disk drives work(aren't recognized, but are compatible) with FreeBSD. And because of this it is very hard to do this I tried to get the stuff on my modem, but I can't get netscape off the CD and I can't even dialup my ISP with my modem, so if there is any way, except with the handbook (which is very confusing), that you can help me, please send me some e-mail at 'melco@melcowire.com'. -- Thank You Matt David From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 2 20:32:49 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id UAA07796 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 20:32:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from Aspen.Woc.Atinc.COM ([198.138.38.205]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA07767 for ; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 20:32:36 -0800 (PST) Received: (from jmb@localhost) by Aspen.Woc.Atinc.COM (8.6.12/8.6.9) id XAA03604; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 23:03:18 -0500 Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 23:03:17 -0500 (EST) From: "Jonathan M. Bresler" X-Sender: jmb@Aspen.Woc.Atinc.COM To: Stephen Couchman cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: iijpp STILL cannot talk to my modem :-(( In-Reply-To: <199601021639.LAA07541@io.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On Tue, 2 Jan 1996, Stephen Couchman wrote: > I have made the changes to the initial state using rc.serial as you > suggested so that only /dev/cuaia1 is affected. This had the desired affect > on /dev/cuaa1, so now when I check the state using stty -a crtscts and clocal are set. cool, one step forward ;) > Unfortunately, this had no effect on iij-ppp, in term mode. I still get no > characters received/sent by/from the modem. One note however, when I issue > the term command, the TR light on the modem comes on, indicating that some > sort of signal is being received. TR?? as in DTR ?? what kind of modem again please?? can you send the setup information (available with ati4 or at&v or some such depend on maker) jmb Jonathan M. Bresler FreeBSD Postmaster jmb@FreeBSD.ORG play go. ride bike. hack FreeBSD.--ah the good life i am moving to a new job. PLEASE USE: jmb@FreeBSD.ORG From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 2 20:36:46 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id UAA08135 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 20:36:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts12-line14.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.146]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA08127 for ; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 20:36:39 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id UAA00498; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 20:36:55 -0800 Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 20:36:55 -0800 (PST) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Chuck Robey cc: FreeBSD-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: New mouse In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 2 Jan 1996, Chuck Robey wrote: > I wasn't willing to pay $90 each for Logitech models, but I found some > no-name models that claimed Microsoft compatibility and ran $20 each. My > problem is that, un XFree86, the middle mouse button won't work. The Microsoft mouse spec does not support the middle button. The logitech spec does, however. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@gladstone.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 2 20:44:47 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id UAA08737 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 20:44:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts12-line14.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.146]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA08731 for ; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 20:44:39 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id UAA00514; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 20:45:03 -0800 Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 20:45:03 -0800 (PST) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Linux still not working :( Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hello All! Running 2.1-R on a p90, 16mb RAM, X 3.1.2s. After grabbing fresh kernel source from ftp.cdrom.com and recompiling with options LINUX_COMPAT options COMPAT_LINUX xdoom still errors with 'bus error'. I guess I need to be held by the hand on this one :-) So, if someone would describe the procedure from square one that would be most helpful. Here is my kernel config for reference: # # GENERIC -- Generic machine with WD/AHx/NCR/BTx family disks # # GENERIC,v 1.45.2.3 1995/06/05 21:50:41 jkh Exp # machine "i386" #cpu "I386_CPU" #cpu "I486_CPU" cpu "I586_CPU" ident GDI maxusers 10 #options MATH_EMULATE #Support for x87 emulation options INET #InterNETworking options FFS #Berkeley Fast Filesystem options NFS #Network Filesystem options MSDOSFS #MSDOS Filesystem options "CD9660" #ISO 9660 Filesystem options PROCFS #Process filesystem options "COMPAT_43" #Compatible with BSD 4.3 options "SCSI_DELAY=15" #Be pessimistic about Joe SCSI device options BOUNCE_BUFFERS #include support for DMA bounce buffers options UCONSOLE #Allow users to grab the console options SYSVSHM #System V support options SYSVSEM options SYSVMSG options XSERVER options "MAXCONS=16" options LINUX_COMPAT options COMPAT_LINUX config kernel root on wd1 controller isa0 controller pci0 controller fdc0 at isa? port "IO_FD1" bio irq 6 drq 2 vector fdintr disk fd0 at fdc0 drive 0 disk fd1 at fdc0 drive 1 tape ft0 at fdc0 drive 2 controller wdc0 at isa? port "IO_WD1" bio irq 14 flags 0x80ff80ff vector wdintr disk wd0 at wdc0 drive 0 disk wd1 at wdc0 drive 1 controller wdc1 at isa? port "IO_WD2" bio irq 15 vector wdintr disk wd2 at wdc1 drive 0 disk wd3 at wdc1 drive 1 #controller ncr0 #controller ahc0 #controller bt0 at isa? port "IO_BT0" bio irq ? vector btintr #controller uha0 at isa? port "IO_UHA0" bio irq ? drq 5 vector uhaintr #controller ahc1 at isa? bio irq ? vector ahcintr #controller ahb0 at isa? bio irq ? vector ahbintr #controller aha0 at isa? port "IO_AHA0" bio irq ? drq 5 vector ahaintr #controller aic0 at isa? port 0x340 bio irq 11 vector aicintr #controller nca0 at isa? port 0x1f88 bio irq 10 vector ncaintr #controller nca1 at isa? port 0x350 bio irq 5 vector ncaintr #controller sea0 at isa? bio irq 5 iomem 0xc8000 iosiz 0x2000 vector seaintr #controller scbus0 #device sd0 #device st0 #device cd0 #Only need one of these, the code dynamically grows #device wt0 at isa? port 0x300 bio irq 5 drq 1 vector wtintr #device mcd0 at isa? port 0x300 bio irq 10 vector mcdintr #device mcd1 at isa? port 0x340 bio irq 11 vector mcdintr #controller matcd0 at isa? port ? bio #device scd0 at isa? port 0x230 bio # syscons is the default console driver, resembling an SCO console device sc0 at isa? port "IO_KBD" tty irq 1 vector scintr # Enable this and PCVT_FREEBSD for pcvt vt220 compatible console driver #device vt0 at isa? port "IO_KBD" tty irq 1 vector pcrint #options "PCVT_FREEBSD=210" # pcvt running on FreeBSD 2.1 #options XSERVER # include code for XFree86 device npx0 at isa? port "IO_NPX" irq 13 vector npxintr device sio0 at isa? port "IO_COM1" tty irq 4 vector siointr device sio1 at isa? port "IO_COM2" tty irq 3 vector siointr device sio2 at isa? port "IO_COM3" tty irq 5 vector siointr device sio3 at isa? port "IO_COM4" tty irq 9 vector siointr device lpt0 at isa? port? tty irq 7 vector lptintr device lpt1 at isa? port? tty #device lpt2 at isa? port? tty # Order is important here due to intrusive probes, do *not* alphabetize # this list of network interfaces until the probes have been fixed. # Right now it appears that the ie0 must be probed before ep0. See # revision 1.20 of this file. device de0 device ed0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 10 iomem 0xd8000 vector edintr #device ed1 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 5 iomem 0xd8000 vector edintr #device ie0 at isa? port 0x360 net irq 7 iomem 0xd0000 vector ieintr #device ep0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 10 vector epintr #device ix0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 10 iomem 0xd0000 iosiz 32768 vector ixintr #device le0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 5 iomem 0xd0000 vector le_intr #device lnc0 at isa? port 0x280 net irq 10 drq 0 vector lncintr #device lnc1 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 10 drq 0 vector lncintr #device ze0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 5 iomem 0xd8000 vector zeintr #device zp0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 10 iomem 0xd8000 vector zpintr pseudo-device loop pseudo-device ether pseudo-device log pseudo-device sl 1 # ijppp uses tun instead of ppp device #pseudo-device ppp 1 pseudo-device tun 1 pseudo-device speaker pseudo-device pty 16 pseudo-device gzip # Exec gzipped a.out's controller snd0 device sb0 at isa? port 0x220 irq 5 drq 1 vector sbintr device sbxvi0 at isa? drq 5 device sbmidi0 at isa? port 0x330 device opl0 at isa? port 0x388 #device pca0 at isa? port IO_TIMER1 tty Additional info provided by request. AdvTHANKSance! Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@gladstone.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major PS: What is the program that gives the executable info, ie the 'ZMAGIC demand-paged' bit? :-) From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 2 20:47:54 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id UAA08891 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 20:47:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts12-line14.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.146]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA08885 for ; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 20:47:48 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id UAA00526; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 20:48:07 -0800 Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 20:48:07 -0800 (PST) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: JOHN cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: How to change default shell? In-Reply-To: <01HZJNGCT0EA8WWO1J@POMONA.EDU> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 2 Jan 1996, JOHN wrote: > I can't find a usermod command, so first I tried directly editing the > /etc/passwd file. But that did not work, so I then tried editing the > /etc/master.passwd file as well (should this be done?) I just want to have > bash as the default shell rather than csh, but even with these fields changed, > csh remains the default. Either: . login as the user and run `chsh' (or as root: `chsh ') OR . su to root, run `vipw' and change the last field accordingly. Editing the passwd file requires special lock files and such, and vipw and chsh make the proper changes. Might want to change options in the `adduser' script as well. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@gladstone.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 2 21:17:31 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id VAA11890 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 21:17:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from server1.netpath.net (server1.netpath.net [205.139.153.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA11883 for ; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 21:17:28 -0800 (PST) Received: (from deasey@localhost) by server1.netpath.net (8.7.1/8.7.1) id AAA06585; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 00:17:29 -0500 Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 00:17:28 -0500 (EST) From: Geoffrey Deasey To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: boot -c for non standard kernel drivers Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk ok, I booted it with the -c so I could change the irq and iomem settings for my smc network card which the kernel put at irq5 (my soundblaster is their) and iomem 0xe0000 the kernel put it at 0xd8000. I changed the settings and exited the menu and got a message about the wrong bucket and a kernel panic. Did I do this the wrong way ? I even tryed disabling the card (ed0) in the menu and then changing it and enabling it (same result). I was also doing a cd /stand and ./sysinstall to add packages and noticed that there are a few that are in the menus and not on ftp.freebsd.org ? Thanks, P.S. FreeBSD looks real nice and not that hard to install I hope the development group keeps up the good work o o \__/ ------------------------------------------------------------------ FreeBSD / Linux | Netpath, Inc & Stratonet, Inc. | ------------------+ 2466 Corporation Parkway | Opinions are mine | Burlington, NC 27215 910-226-0425 | not theirs +----------------------------------------------+ From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 2 21:19:21 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id VAA12003 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 21:19:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from seraglio.staidan.qld.edu.au (staidans.client.uq.edu.au [130.102.39.106]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA11992 for ; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 21:18:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from aidan.staidan.qld.edu.au (aidan.staidan.qld.edu.au [203.12.39.2]) by seraglio.staidan.qld.edu.au (8.6.11/8.6.9) with ESMTP id PAA04568; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 15:17:24 +1000 Received: from AIDAN/SpoolDir by aidan.staidan.qld.edu.au (Mercury 1.21); 3 Jan 96 15:17:25 -1000 Received: from SpoolDir by AIDAN (Mercury 1.21); 3 Jan 96 15:17:12 -1000 From: "Peter Stubbs" Organization: St Aidan's A.G.S. To: ywliu , questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 15:17:10 -1000 Subject: Re: Majordomo question : where to find it ? Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.23) Message-ID: <1835ECE64C7@aidan.staidan.qld.edu.au> Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On 3 Jan 96 at 10:47, ywliu wrote: > Hi, > > Where can I find a workable version of Majordomo, like the one > freebsd.org is using ? I have tried to use 1.93 under 2.05R, but a > lot of strange things did occur so I have to give it up. > > Yen-Wei Liu I got 1.93 to work under 2.0.5, but it took a while. Mainly because I didn't read & follow the instructions & the FAQ exactly. Get the FAQ from the web, make sure you have a high enough version of perl ( 5.002 I think ), be carefull about the user, group & file permissions Cheers, Peter Peter Stubbs, St Aidan's AGS. ph +61-07-3379-9911, fax +61-07-3379-9432 From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 2 21:34:06 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id VAA13492 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 21:34:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from onyx.southwind.net (root@onyx.southwind.net [204.95.83.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA13441 for ; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 21:33:57 -0800 (PST) Received: (from Ucomplet@localhost) by onyx.southwind.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with UUCP id XAA26498; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 23:11:15 -0600 Received: (from goerzenj@localhost) by complete.org (8.7.2/8.7.2) id WAA00242; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 22:55:21 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 22:55:19 -0600 (CST) From: John Goerzen To: Donald Burr cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: User-level and administrative diff's between BSDi and FreeBSD? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk I may be wrong, but I thought that Taylor UUCP could be configured (or compiled) to use HDB configs. On Sun, 31 Dec 1995, Donald Burr wrote: > I just picked up the latest edition of "UNIX System Administration > Handbook" (an EXCELLENT reference text, btw; I'll be sending highest > kudos to the authors). > > While it doesn't go into details about any of the Free*BSD's nor Linux, > it DOES go into details of a lot of the workstation OS's, including HPUX, > Solaris, ... as well as BSDi on 80x86's. > > So, my question is: how "similar" or "dissimilar" is BSDi from FreeBSD? > in terms of the user interface, system admin tools, programming > environment, etc.? (i.e. are most of the user-land commands available in > FreeBSD, available on BSDi and do they work similarly? And > vice-versa)... well, you get the idea. > > I know there'll be differences, and I'm expecting that: f.e. I know that > BSDi uses its own UUCP derived from the original BSD UUCP, with its own > enhancements, while FreeBSD uses Taylor UUCP with the weird Taylor-style > config files (I much prefer standard HDB configs, but that's another > story). So I'm not expecting them to be THE SAME. > > I just figured that BSDi, since both it and FreeBSD were based on the > 4.4-lite (please correct me if I'm wrong on this), that they should be, > in large part, fairly similar. Of course, I've never used BSDi, so I > can't say this with conviction. That's why I'm asking you folks :) > > Please let me know. Thanks! > > Donald Burr [d_burr@ix.netcom.com], PO Box 91212, Santa Barbara CA 93190-1212 > TEL (805)564-1871 / FAX 564-2315 / WWW http://www.geopages.com/WallStreet/2072 > PGP Public Key available by request (send e-mail) or on Public Key Servers. > ** Uphold your right to privacy - Use PGP. ** > From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 2 21:37:20 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id VAA13905 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 21:37:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from Aspen.Woc.Atinc.COM (aspen.woc.atinc.com [198.138.38.205]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA13900 for ; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 21:37:13 -0800 (PST) Received: (from jmb@localhost) by Aspen.Woc.Atinc.COM (8.6.12/8.6.9) id AAA03727; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 00:36:56 -0500 Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 00:36:55 -0500 (EST) From: "Jonathan M. Bresler" X-Sender: jmb@Aspen.Woc.Atinc.COM To: JOHN cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: How to change default shell? In-Reply-To: <01HZJNGCT0EA8WWO1J@POMONA.EDU> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 2 Jan 1996, JOHN wrote: > I can't find a usermod command, so first I tried directly editing the > /etc/passwd file. But that did not work, so I then tried editing the > /etc/master.passwd file as well (should this be done?) I just want to have > bash as the default shell rather than csh, but even with these fields changed, > csh remains the default. two steps are required. 1. as root use vipw, a special version of vi, to edit the passwd file find the entry for the user and replace /bin/csh with the path to bash on your system. (probably /usr/local/bin/bash) 2. edit /etc/shells. add a line containing the path to bash on your system. (this lets a bash user ftp into the machine) > Also, what is the purpose of the master.passwd file? Is it just to implement > password shadowing? yes. passwd shadowing Jonathan M. Bresler FreeBSD Postmaster jmb@FreeBSD.ORG play go. ride bike. hack FreeBSD.--ah the good life i am moving to a new job. PLEASE USE: jmb@FreeBSD.ORG From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 2 21:42:28 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id VAA14142 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 21:42:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from Aspen.Woc.Atinc.COM (aspen.woc.atinc.com [198.138.38.205]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA14137 for ; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 21:42:22 -0800 (PST) Received: (from jmb@localhost) by Aspen.Woc.Atinc.COM (8.6.12/8.6.9) id AAA03737; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 00:41:30 -0500 Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 00:41:29 -0500 (EST) From: "Jonathan M. Bresler" X-Sender: jmb@Aspen.Woc.Atinc.COM To: ywliu cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Majordomo question : where to find it ? In-Reply-To: <199601031047.KAA02850@neptune.pristine.com.tw> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 3 Jan 1996, ywliu wrote: > Where can I find a workable version of Majordomo, like the one freebsd.org > is using ? I have tried to use 1.93 under 2.05R, but a lot of strange > things did occur so I have to give it up. ftp://kryten.atinc.com/pub/majordomo/majordomo-1.92.tar.gz Jonathan M. Bresler FreeBSD Postmaster jmb@FreeBSD.ORG play go. ride bike. hack FreeBSD.--ah the good life i am moving to a new job. PLEASE USE: jmb@FreeBSD.ORG From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 2 21:52:36 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id VAA15067 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 21:52:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from Root.COM (implode.Root.COM [198.145.90.17]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA15058 for ; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 21:52:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from corbin.Root.COM (corbin [198.145.90.50]) by Root.COM (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id VAA02744; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 21:52:27 -0800 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by corbin.Root.COM (8.7.3/8.6.5) with SMTP id VAA00247; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 21:59:17 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199601030559.VAA00247@corbin.Root.COM> To: Geoffrey Deasey cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: boot -c for non standard kernel drivers In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 03 Jan 96 00:17:28 EST." From: David Greenman Reply-To: davidg@Root.COM Date: Tue, 02 Jan 1996 21:59:16 -0800 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk >ok, I booted it with the -c so I could change the irq and iomem settings >for my smc network card which the kernel put at irq5 (my soundblaster is >their) and iomem 0xe0000 the kernel put it at 0xd8000. I changed the >settings and exited the menu and got a message about the wrong bucket and >a kernel panic. Ugh. Obviously it should do that. I think the wrong bucket panic only happens when an internal inconsistency is detected. Are you running with a customized kernel (one you built yourself)? Did you specify the address properly in hex (0xe0000), or could it be that you just typed "e0000"? You might also look at the result after you changed it (using the ls command) and make sure that it properly set. -DG David Greenman Core Team/Principal Architect, The FreeBSD Project From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 2 22:00:57 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id WAA15859 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 22:00:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from Root.COM (implode.Root.COM [198.145.90.17]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA15854 for ; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 22:00:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from corbin.Root.COM (corbin [198.145.90.50]) by Root.COM (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id WAA02759; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 22:00:53 -0800 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by corbin.Root.COM (8.7.3/8.6.5) with SMTP id WAA00282; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 22:08:24 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199601030608.WAA00282@corbin.Root.COM> To: Geoffrey Deasey cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: boot -c for non standard kernel drivers In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 02 Jan 96 21:59:16 PST." <199601030559.VAA00247@corbin.Root.COM> From: David Greenman Reply-To: davidg@Root.COM Date: Tue, 02 Jan 1996 22:08:23 -0800 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk >>ok, I booted it with the -c so I could change the irq and iomem settings >>for my smc network card which the kernel put at irq5 (my soundblaster is >>their) and iomem 0xe0000 the kernel put it at 0xd8000. I changed the >>settings and exited the menu and got a message about the wrong bucket and >>a kernel panic. > > Ugh. Obviously it should do that. I think the wrong bucket panic only ^^^^^^ "shouldn't" ...I hate it when that happens. :-) -DG David Greenman Core Team/Principal Architect, The FreeBSD Project From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 2 23:14:13 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id XAA19049 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 23:14:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from io.org (io.org [142.77.70.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA19043 for ; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 23:14:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from cybereye.net6d.io.org (cybereye.net6d.io.org [204.92.7.117]) by io.org (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id CAA01322 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 02:14:00 -0500 Message-ID: <30EA56EF.1573@io.org> Date: Wed, 03 Jan 1996 02:14:07 -0800 From: Jason Antheunis Organization: McKAntheunis Assoc. Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0b4 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: dual boot FreeBSD and Win95 X-URL: http://www.cdrom.com/titles/freebsd.html Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I am wondering if I can dual boot FreeBSD and Win95 from the same harddrive? Am I able to use a boot manager or how should I go about this. Any help would be appresiated. I have already ordered FreeBSD from CDROM.COM and so I would like to use both. Please help. Jason From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 3 00:06:44 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id AAA20715 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 00:06:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from cc.jyu.fi (root@cc.jyu.fi [130.234.1.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA20702 Wed, 3 Jan 1996 00:06:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from [130.234.41.39] (zaphod.maccc.jyu.fi [130.234.41.39]) by cc.jyu.fi (8.7.2/8.7.2) with SMTP id KAA26934; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 10:05:30 +0200 (EET) X-Sender: kallio@pop.jyu.fi Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 10:05:35 +0300 To: didier@omnix.fr.org, hardware@freebsd.org, questions@freebsd.org From: kallio@cc.jyu.fi (Seppo Kallio) Subject: Re: RAID Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk At 13:40 2.1.96, didier@omnix.fr.org wrote: >is there any RAID 5 or 7 system available for FreeBSD I think there are several RAID 5 systems available for FreeBSD and for any system using SCSI disks. Some people here in Finland use Mylex (sp?) RAID5 + Linux NFS server. It is connected using Fast Wide SCSI. So if you can use AHA 2940W or 3940W you can use it (?). I think FreeBSD is supporting 2940W and 3940W (is it? I am using 2940). The only problem I can see is the huge partition it defines if you use 4G disks you will have 4*4G (5*4G?) partition. There has been some problems even in 4G partitions in FreeBSD (with dump at least). I am very interested in RAID + FreeBSD + NFS systems. Please write if you have some info about them. Seppo From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 3 00:39:26 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id AAA22150 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 00:39:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from itp.ac.ru (itp.ac.ru [193.233.32.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA22119 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 00:39:06 -0800 (PST) Received: (ks@localhost) by itp.ac.ru (8.6.11/8.6.5) id LAA07898 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 11:40:23 +0300 Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 11:40:23 +0300 From: "Sergey S. Kosyakov" Message-Id: <199601030840.LAA07898@itp.ac.ru> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: System hangs with S3-Trio64 and networking. Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I have Pentium-120 with 32 MB RAM and Diamond Stealth-64 2 MB DRAM (S3-Trio64) PCI card. When I start ping from xterm %25 or more pings loss. When I start some network applications under X (like ftp or netscape) system hangs. I tried "de" (Digital 21041 PCI Ethernet card) and "ed" (SMC8216) - the situation is the same. Can somebody help me to fix this problem ? Sergey. From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 3 01:52:05 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id BAA25968 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 01:52:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from ip2.uplift.fr (af@ip2.uplift.fr [194.51.20.70]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id BAA25957 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 01:51:55 -0800 (PST) Received: (from af@localhost) by ip2.uplift.fr (8.6.12/8.6.9) id KAA19561; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 10:53:01 +0100 Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 10:53:01 +0100 Message-Id: <199601030953.KAA19561@ip2.uplift.fr> From: Alain Forcioli To: questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk unsubscribe freebsd-questions From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 3 03:05:38 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id DAA29632 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 03:05:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from eac.iafrica.com (slipper119225.iafrica.com [196.7.119.225]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id DAA29617 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 03:05:20 -0800 (PST) Received: (from rnordier@localhost) by eac.iafrica.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id NAA00179; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 13:03:15 +0200 From: Robert Nordier Message-Id: <199601031103.NAA00179@eac.iafrica.com> Subject: Re: PPP glitches To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 13:03:12 +0200 (SAT) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Doug White" at Jan 1, 96 08:01:19 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8a] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 1 Jan 1996, Doug White wrote: > On Tue, 2 Jan 1996, Robert Nordier wrote: > > > Do you -- or does anyone -- happen to know the exact setup to use with > > iij-ppp where addresses on both side are dynamically assigned? (This must > > be quite common, I would have thought.) > > I have this situation. I just modified 'simplesite' and left the > defaults as they are. Unfortunately, it appears that 'ppp.linkup' isn't > functioning...I have a bunch of annoying routes and try to delete them > wiht it and nothing happens. I end up su'ing to root, running a script > to delete them, then adding a default route for the connection. For > example, this is what I get just after connecting: > > gdi# netstat -rn > Routing tables > > Internet: > Destination Gateway Flags Refs Use Netif Expire > 127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 UH 1 0 lo0 > 128.223.150.166 128.223.150.182 UH 6 0 tun0 > > So I enter 'route add default 128.223.150.166' and all is well. > > > Everything always works OK for the first session. But unfortunately > > neither 'route delete' nor 'route flush' set everything back to the same > > state as before a connection was made. > > When I do 'close' in ppp, it deletes the default route just fine. > Thanks very much for the info. I think I tried to do pretty much what you have done in ppp.conf. I also found that ppp.linkup didn't seem to be working. I started out with [/etc/ppp/ppp.linkup] my_isp: delete ALL add 0 0 HISADDR but this never seemed to be invoked when I did dial my_isp However I did find that if I added the lines MYADDR: add 0 0 HISADDR to ppp.linkup, then this got invoked instead and ppp added the default route correctly. (I don't know if I'm confused, but it seemed from the documentation that just the my_isp section should have been needed.) Actually, what I'm most concerned about is the setup in /etc/sysconfig. I have (possibly relevant stuff only): [/etc/sysconfig] hostname="me.my_isp.com" defaultdomainname=NO tcp_extensions=YES network_interfaces="tun0 lo0" ifconfig_tun0="inet me.my_isp.com 10.0.0.2 netmask 0xffffff00" ifconfig_lo0="inet localhost" static_routes="multicast loopback" route_multicast="224.0.0.0 -netmask 0xf0000000 -interface ${hostname}" route_loopback="${hostname} localhost" defaultrouter=NO routedflags="-s" [/etc/hosts] 127.0.0.1 localhost 10.0.0.1 me.my_isp.com me I'm not sure whether the "ifconfig_tun0" line should even be there, since it is just a lie, anyway, and "routed"