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Date:      Sat, 15 Feb 2020 13:38:18 +0700
From:      Victor Sudakov <>
Subject:   Re: Technological advantages over Linux
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Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote:
> On Fri, 14 Feb 2020 21:16:00 +0700
> Victor Sudakov <> wrote:
> > For example, the absence of Docker (or analogous technology) for FreeBSD
> > is a huge disadvantage. We need to name really superiour features to
> > make up for this shortage.
> 	pkg search docker shows a lot of packages including:
> docker-18.09.5_1               Open-source application container engine
> docker-compose-1.24.0_1        Define and run multi-container applications
> with Docker
> 	Looks like we have docker=20

I was speaking of sysutils/docker-freebsd which remained BROKEN for
years and was eventually removed from the ports tree. I'll certainly
look at sysutils/docker and sysutils/docker-compose, thanks for the
hint. I hope it is THE docker (/me is starting poudriere...)

> - but IMHO jails are better lightweight
> containers with a *much* longer track record=20

But jails lack a repository of ready-made containers with applications.
To be honest, jails lack even a decent management infrastructure. Yes we
have bits like "pkg -j", "bectl jail", "bsdinstall jail",
"freebsd-update -b"  but nobody cared to build a convenient
infrastructure out of all this, not to speak about a repository of
ready-made jails for different purposes.

> and there's bhyve for full
> blown virtualisation.

bhyve is great, that's true. If it could also run Windows guests on
paravirtualized disks (not emulated SATA), I'd be completely happy.

Victor Sudakov,  VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN

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