From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 3 08:12:30 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A73C91065673 for ; Tue, 3 Jun 2008 08:12:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B7858FC25 for ; Tue, 3 Jun 2008 08:12:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from TEDSDSK (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with SMTP id m538CNlF064439; Tue, 3 Jun 2008 01:12:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Wojciech Puchar" Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 01:13:24 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1914 In-Reply-To: <20080602232417.J36835@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> Importance: Normal X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]); Tue, 03 Jun 2008 01:12:27 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 03 Jun 2008 11:24:52 +0000 Cc: FreeBSD Questions , Kurt Buff , Chuck Robey , Derek Ragona , kline@thought.org Subject: RE: Duplex printer advice X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2008 08:12:30 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: Wojciech Puchar [mailto:wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl] > Sent: Monday, June 02, 2008 2:32 PM > To: Ted Mittelstaedt > Cc: Chuck Robey; Kurt Buff; FreeBSD Questions; Derek Ragona; > kline@thought.org > Subject: RE: Duplex printer advice > > > my HP LaserJet 4 shows 122000 pages, was 88000 when i bought it > for 100PLN > (about 40$)+another 100 for made-in-Poland new ink cardridge (enough for > about 8000-10000 pages). > > HP LaserJet 4 and 3 is excellent, anything newer - crap, as HP joined > others in making craps so every year user has to buy new one. > The 5Si is also an excellent printer. The higher-end HP LJ's are not crap, and last many many years too. The problem is that around the post-4 and post-5 years HP started coming out with the personal LJ printers, which are all crap, and jacked up the price of the workgroup printers to prevent sabotaging the sales of the cheap crap. > > My HP Laserjet 4+ at home is the oldest operating piece of > > computer equipment I have. And I fully expect it to last > > another decade, and once it dies, I have another one in the > > basement that I picked up for $50 - WITH a duplexer. > > i don't think it will stop within 10 years. but do you have original > HP manual? if not - i have for laserjet 4 in PDF. > do not try to disassembly without it :) > I do, and have repaired many fuser idler gears in these printers, as that is usually what gets teeth broken off it and is responsible for most of the jams. Ebay is flooded with cheap HP LJ 4 parts. I kind of suspect that somewhere in China is a company that produces counterfeits of these and other popular HP Laserjets. Ted