Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2017 10:10:30 -0800 From: Kevin Oberman <rkoberman@gmail.com> To: Steve Kargl <sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> Cc: Matthew Seaman <matthew@freebsd.org>, FreeBSD Ports ML <freebsd-ports@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: Procmail Vulnerabilities check Message-ID: <CAN6yY1sJQJgZ%2BB1ahJfNcLBXdPBbtZ5zDnbAp7nvPFfDHBxahw@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <20171210171122.GA48536@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> References: <fb3d23c5-e32d-452a-a0c3-c3cb12340054@cloudzeeland.nl> <a66d1c33-e405-d9e8-d9c3-2738b5e66887@cloudzeeland.nl> <alpine.BSF.2.21.1712080956580.41281@wonkity.com> <20171208180905.GA96560@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> <alpine.BSF.2.21.1712091013310.35694@aneurin.horsfall.org> <20171209012522.GA42506@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> <alpine.BSF.2.21.1712091451300.35694@aneurin.horsfall.org> <fe88c5e6-155d-dd64-96d5-8f394c41d92f@FreeBSD.org> <20171210171122.GA48536@troutmask.apl.washington.edu>
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On Sun, Dec 10, 2017 at 9:11 AM, Steve Kargl < sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> wrote: > On Sun, Dec 10, 2017 at 01:21:13PM +0000, Matthew Seaman wrote: > > > > Hence the current sendmail in base is neither fish nor fowl: way > > overpowered for almost all installations, but with significant > > limitations for a machine providing a full-blown mail service. > > Personally I agree with his reasoning: unless the primary function of > > your FreeBSD machine is to be an MTA, you really don't need any more > > capability than to either deliver to a local mailbox, or forward all > > e-mails to a smart host. Certainly you don't need anything capable of > > receiving incoming e-mails. > > > > I disagree. FreeBSd used to pride itself on being a complete operating > system oout-of-the-box. Lately, a smaller number of developers are > moving FreeBSD to being a kernel with a bunch of add-on software. > > dma(1) does not support a .forward file and by extension vacation(1). > Without .forward, then those of use who use procmail(1) (subject of > this email thread) in .forward and by extension spamassisin are > hosed. > > Chapter 27 of the FreeBSD Handbook would need to be rewritten before > sendmail can be removed. It is assumed that sendmail is installed > with base. > > -- > Steve > Strongly agree! Support ofr some basics like .forward is really a requirement. It is used for too many "normal" mail operations including private dropmail or procmail setups as well as forwarding to a smartmail system. -- Kevin Oberman, Part time kid herder and retired Network Engineer E-mail: rkoberman@gmail.com PGP Fingerprint: D03FB98AFA78E3B78C1694B318AB39EF1B055683
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