From owner-freebsd-hackers Sat May 6 12:13:34 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from corinth.bossig.com (corinth.bossig.com [208.26.239.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6852737BCB1; Sat, 6 May 2000 12:13:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kstewart@3-cities.com) Received: from 3-cities.com (unverified [208.26.241.195]) by corinth.bossig.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 4.2.1) with ESMTP id ; Sat, 6 May 2000 12:18:09 -0700 Message-ID: <39146ECC.5910A7C2@3-cities.com> Date: Sat, 06 May 2000 12:13:16 -0700 From: Kent Stewart Organization: Columbia Basin Virtual Community Project X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mike Smith Cc: Olaf Hoyer , freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [OT] Finding people with GSM phones (was Re: GPS heads up ) References: <200005061909.MAA07423@mass.cdrom.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Mike Smith wrote: > > > There were some famous cases where some criminals were located by tracking > > down their cell phone. The police needed some decision from court to do > > that, but after that, it was a short way to go. The GSM nets have some of > > this ability built in, to track phones. The operators only don't want the > > "normal" citizen or user to know about that. > > This capability of GSM was well known when it was introduced in .au, but > when my phone was stolen, the telco bastards wouldn't admit to being able > to tell me anything about where it was (even though I could still call > it...). > > What's being proposed here sounds just slightly scary. Depends on your big brother complex. When I first went to work at Hanford, I was told that 1 in 10 calls were recorded. You didn't worry about it. You didn't say anything stupid either :). Some of the western parts of the US have a lot of milleage between towns. Australia is much worse in a lot of areas. How many people know if they are closer to one emergency service or another. One could be 100 miles (160km) away and the next one could be 10. It could be even worse and would depend on a helicopter being dispatched with paramedics. You are in the middle of no where but you can still have an active cell phone. It doesn't do the emergency services people any good unless they have an idea where you are. Kent > -- > \\ Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day. \\ Mike Smith > \\ Tell him he should learn how to fish himself, \\ msmith@freebsd.org > \\ and he'll hate you for a lifetime. \\ msmith@cdrom.com > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA mailto:kstewart@3-cities.com http://www.3-cities.com/~kstewart/index.html FreeBSD News http://daily.daemonnews.org/ SETI(Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence) @ HOME http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message