Date: Mon, 15 Jun 1998 16:07:33 -0700 From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" <jkh@time.cdrom.com> To: Sue Blake <sue@welearn.com.au> Cc: ben@rosengart.com, Darren Reed <avalon@coombs.anu.edu.au>, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 2.2.6 CD-ROM : Package dependencies up the creek ? Message-ID: <2898.897952053@time.cdrom.com> In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 16 Jun 1998 07:58:07 %2B1000." <19980616075807.13931@welearn.com.au>
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> After my third attempt to install from CD, running out of disk space > (without being told so) every time, I threw the CD in the bin and booted > DOS. Where were you to tell me it's easy to install packages afterwards? > Where were you to tell me that I could use alt-F2 though I'd need a unix Umm, Sue, I appreciate all that you do to help newbies, but I think you're missing a fundamental point here. This is a volunteer project, first and foremost, and if people really *want* some feature like this then they simply have to implement it - neither I nor anyone else has the time an energy to implement each and every creature comfort that users would like to see, as much as we might like to (and the total lack of space information in a package, especially if it's sitting at the end of an FTP connection, makes this a little harder than most folks would think). If users don't implement the features they want in a volunteer OS then they don't get them, it's just that simple. I also know that not everyone necessarily has the ability to beat a path towards their own personal Shangri-la, but that's what commercial software is for - if you really need more than any free OS is able to give you then it's probably time to reach for your wallet and PAY for something which does. I believe that both Solaris and SCO provide better diagnostics for the out-of-disk space condition, as does Windows 95 if you're on a tighter budget. And no, I'm not being sarcastic with this message, I'm just being factual. Going "bitch bitch bitch stupid software bitch bitch bitch wanted to throw the fucking CD in the trash bitch bitch bitch Win95 has this feature bitch bitch bitch" is only a good way of alienating folks who know that this is a problem but lack the time to do much about it. If you want it fixed, FIX IT! That's the lovely thing about free software - you have that option and are always encouraged to exercise it, no matter who you are, if it's something you really really want. If you're not motivated enough to gain the skills necessary to do it, then I guess you didn't want the feature that much after all, did ya? :-) - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
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