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Date:      Fri, 29 Aug 2003 16:03:50 -0400
From:      Michael Edenfield <kutulu@kutulu.org>
To:        David O'Brien <obrien@FreeBSD.org>
Cc:        cvs-all@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: cvs commit: src/gnu/usr.bin Makefile src/lib Makefile src/sbin Makefile src/usr.bin Makefile src/usr.sbin Makefile
Message-ID:  <20030829200349.GA86217@wombat.localnet>
In-Reply-To: <20030829194007.GA69823@dragon.nuxi.com>
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* David O'Brien <obrien@FreeBSD.org> [030829 15:36]:
> On Fri, Aug 29, 2003 at 12:14:17PM -0700, Nate Lawson wrote:
> > On Fri, 29 Aug 2003, David O'Brien wrote:
> > > On Fri, Aug 29, 2003 at 09:08:35AM -0400, Robert Watson wrote:
> > > > On Fri, 29 Aug 2003, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >   NO_TOOLCHAIN    skips Compilers and Binutils
> > > > >   NO_USB          skips USB stuff
> > > > >   NO_VINUM        skips Vinum stuff
> > > > >   NO_ACPI         skips ACPI stuff
> > > >
> > > > Great!  I was hoping this would be the outcome of the Minimalist Fr=
eeBSD
> > > > discussion.
> > >
> > > Was there a discussion somewhere that most of us missed?
> >=20
> > Hmm, missed it also.  In general I'm in favor of this but would prefer =
to
> > see these also defined under a single knob (MINIMAL?).
>=20
> I disagree that it should be a single (MINIMAL(sp?)) knob.  But that
> there should be more discussion about it.  If you have NO_TOOLCHAIN set,
> I can't think of a reason to have /usr/include or /usr/lib/*.a populated;
> for instance.

If you don't have a compiler or binutils toolchain installed, then make
buildworld isn't going to make it very far in general :)

But I also disagree with lumping it all together.  I'm not sure how long
Vinum and ACPI specifically take to build on my lower-end hardware, but
the full buildworld/buildkernel takes nearly an entire day, and that's
already with most of the NO_ flags (no profiling, no sendmail, no i4b,
no uucp) .  So any bit I can get helps :)

--Mike


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