From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Feb 19 18:22:13 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 486AF24182A for ; Wed, 19 Feb 2020 18:22:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carpeddiem@gmail.com) Received: from mail-io1-f43.google.com (mail-io1-f43.google.com [209.85.166.43]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 48N5fX2mwhz44f2 for ; Wed, 19 Feb 2020 18:22:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carpeddiem@gmail.com) Received: by mail-io1-f43.google.com with SMTP id z193so1655509iof.1 for ; Wed, 19 Feb 2020 10:22:11 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=3rDMgueLfXO3F1Wkfn9e6sq3+47L+a3YaobgRvwCsY0=; b=SlwKk5TFtPWTa9Ardn3gHcEyOKL+HXx+DaKEk8iwwjVpYWduE+koh31gcMvUZTs33m 0uFHMl0tgb/vH3hhQIHB6I1Dq8YVHzvpYKXLF52gTNXehQTZurljUkNYCenljy4ipkwL mJccLTxAMMeTqQGpTUEsqiXV9xlRCzSnpbQGh0Tjn3x0UL5adhkD1PQNi1oxo989WKs0 K4cmTYW9h0hyKc6V9qcunCcWJ7FOtN/CNwn/W0YTnWGGAjGGVPSYnRrF1u4YHpobGBdY hVpNHwksnpOQUHnjnRCWLE4MyRJu+UxlgB6LbAMLHD0h9Nrsks0mz0AxfT4m196k1SRJ KYVg== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAVm05C7D36/Leu6PhPI0bNqdIXbkKwED0sqb7XNV3uTL3sAbFD/ bIGqaW5tcExaplSA1eeD3u4YilC5kzJdYHKTv1k2W5TQ X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqxAYz80lMMLqrScxnHzmS/O6TwfIWAkpe4RWcOhI4KXlj4HlE0D3gZcYG0UQTe89zmLUQ61T7xn4UFtnQD15no= X-Received: by 2002:a6b:400b:: with SMTP id k11mr20928498ioa.256.1582136529768; Wed, 19 Feb 2020 10:22:09 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20200217231452.717FA1E820@freefall.freebsd.org> <85E7C97E-EF8B-4FC7-8EF1-758B7BCBAE90@kreme.com> <20200218183010.5a52441f.freebsd@edvax.de> <20200218205940.04917783.freebsd@edvax.de> <20200219052643.7bd90d3c@scorpio> <20200219130628.457f8953@scorpio> In-Reply-To: <20200219130628.457f8953@scorpio> From: Ed Maste Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2020 13:21:56 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [FreeBSD-Announce] FreeBSD 12.0 end-of-life To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 48N5fX2mwhz44f2 X-Spamd-Bar: ----- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-6.00 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; REPLY(-4.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2020 18:22:13 -0000 On Wed, 19 Feb 2020 at 13:06, Jerry wrote: > > On Wed, 19 Feb 2020 11:31:18 -0500, Ed Maste stated: > >That's an unfortunate issue, but it's very hard to make progress > >without getting an affected machine to an appropriate developer. > > =EF=BB=BFPersonally, Ed, I think your suggestion is absurd. If getting a machine to a developer into the hands of a developer who can investigate and fix the issue is absurd, what would you suggest instead?