From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 28 15:55:46 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 61E27979 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2014 15:55:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from nm3-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm3-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.212.154]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 07D2BF20 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2014 15:55:45 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s2048; t=1417190138; bh=9UOi75EPdNFs51ZwW5OgH734q0DblmcJ81MNbaRSJIw=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:From:Subject; b=mDlKeGMkIszUFG0k99DDm50/Ev0xy+u3Z/fS5ALkil27Ad+HzJDS7Ls1IvWGK41oW4gDAyn8MO/NVm04w3hUEwsTIgDWdge3jdE3ZeRfDjarDI4Sb/Wywxbk9rVUewyuuYGd6G9cxx/LTF5AZqpnkdrOMMS7tsQ5wwVCj90iyntYTqkQrgHHZ1xyzYcJC9B3z5kFS0QIp5sVwPEfCZWurM1vvCNQkzdI1MTtsgQ/yKC4tABxmZuznOR4W0ZI5pklXvWHF9B1jfNhzobMv+Qd/t8ifHUoqFC0Cfd/nQSVA3RA1Da/RJzvlfGjNC4YIx3BVkqDMrWG77/lZJHpyulyAg== DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s2048; d=yahoo.com; b=WmIL0F441vBSRH6dGu9FFiKzJi6a4W7yFvvPAQnlDM6BvlCPEszTPBhoWWeL2yIKgMHaMxra2IOmb7Kn17m7npBN2fiFhwkI3XDUn/66+MkqbSNYRzCayyJXOmm9Kb/UpAf6Hrv/QbXi9Db+++spRpNqccNfpM+KBHmUfW3CAOXfSGnMJWV1R4bqumZ4S0NozfQ4CZjQPqjEBiUbg6Ojv7H60EospQ8cqgtMSBATMR5xANhG+8h0t7DvnAYLuz/xz1doVIPbfcBnjlzhGu7nypnkB8VYo1KkwHZX6tjFgZQZblhqBfAaVQ+nbM07BlG7aiUYA8zCQbMWLdm6biQSGw==; Received: from [98.139.215.143] by nm3.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Nov 2014 15:55:38 -0000 Received: from [98.139.213.10] by tm14.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Nov 2014 15:55:38 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp110.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Nov 2014 15:55:38 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 899740.51820.bm@smtp110.mail.bf1.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: GdwlxAUVM1m5.i8pE6x0FyP1lYd0y6YwLnPwe1p2ap5WjUw 27eJ9Uz5T9p2R8oHELHq9BshF8en099yfiw3SaZkOwxRWxoRkKns2H1b8aXI .D4jyPS2h9.MEf6.mB8sKnHrUkFenJnbIHHQES1G9tBXty8fE7JWEBorfExl lIa1k4E9zr0yTKWqWLnmcJLS7xfxZm_gdW5HNdOCnoaUlCOE6C2pVqquKunK ROmut5NZEUuI8_OvtdAiOGC.kf2Bl1A5_lz7H.NKjJ5QApM9_X6J_fj5NX4B .ekkX72MYVwo3BsP3u0CdStjQFU1oDxvCFFUOHL.I_yTcp67C_UGLDeWrA0L aJzP8xBkH7xY_mLyKeunDDZQR.qFP8I_G03KZ3J6a.vRb7npT9F9wbNJB6My ins2bZz6RAbTdeHXpqLnMizpZxedxyA6FS.ZCXZtQFLQEqsoqPTpZB36lAVr eH0eV4KYssW_vhGPa9gmezZajjh_v8xu2XUGHbwqOyQ4xJoqBvQJAcJeXLZR 1_rjcqiWFEgoSHIzVxr6pJFXl X-Yahoo-SMTP: h3Xqg6.swBC0yI913RMMwp94grO_cg-- Message-ID: <54789AF3.7090100@yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2014 10:55:31 -0500 From: Paul Pathiakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: UPS for FreeBSD References: <54777AB1.9010800@bluerosetech.com> <54779629.302@bluerosetech.com> In-Reply-To: <54779629.302@bluerosetech.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2014 15:55:46 -0000 *snip* >> I absolutely agree. I have a large line conditioner I pulled from a >> mini- >> frame that was being decommissioned and scrapped. It filters line noise, >> spikes, transients, high-freq noise, etc, and contains a constant >> voltage >> transformer that can even buck up short line voltage sags. There is >> no such >> advantage to having/using such a beast only to place a non pure-sine >> wave >> UPS between it and the computers. Defeats the purpose of having it in >> the >> first place as such units will only reintroduce all the crap the line >> conditioner cleans up. >> >> Of course, the obvious idea would be to put the UPS in front of the line >> conditioner, but that's also a no-go for various other reasons. >> >> Was just bringing this up to say: spend the extra money and get >> something >> good. My main background early in life was analog electronics and RF, >> before >> I got into computers. I've been looking around for something >> inexpensive for >> home use, but my show-stopper spec is I won't use anything that isn't >> pure >> sine wave. And that translates to $$$. Haven't found anything yet >> that is >> inexpensive and satisfies my requirements. > > A 750VA or 1000VA SmartUPS can be had for around $250, and every now > and the big box stores and Walmart carry them for around $300. Not > too bad considering what you get. Again, these UPSes are not double sine wave, they are stepped. You can get one for cheap, but, again, how much value do you place on your server and the information it has? If you're looking at APC, you have to look at their 'server class' UPS. They start (I think) at 1500VA and about $850. Also, someone mentioned Eaton, I've had several. The story with each of them is bad. The electronics failed in each instance and Eaton was not helpful at all. They told me they would send a 'technician' for $175/hr to just diagnose the problem. No thanks.... As I said, the Opti-UPS I got was cheap... 2000VA 1400W and was $900 shipped to me. BTW, check them out on NewEgg.com. (No, I'm not affiliated with NewEgg or Opti-UPS... I'm just trying to help. They have units that start at $412 (1000VA 700W) go up from there.) The 'Durable Series' is the one with double sine wave. P.