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Date:      Sat, 17 Sep 2011 17:42:00 -0400
From:      Fbsd8 <fbsd8@a1poweruser.com>
To:        Chris Rees <utisoft@gmail.com>
Cc:        freebsd-current@freebsd.org, FreeBSD Questions <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: 9.0 bata2 & keymap
Message-ID:  <4E751428.7040609@a1poweruser.com>
In-Reply-To: <CADLo83_gQR0GRzOidt7OWdhB42KwAPwU7fmohfK_55gTXtoi1Q@mail.gmail.com>
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Chris Rees wrote:
> On 17 Sep 2011 17:25, "Fbsd8" <fbsd8@a1poweruser.com> wrote:
>> Nathan Whitehorn wrote:
>>>>>> On 09/15/11 14:57, Fbsd8 wrote:
>>>>>> Out of the 9 USA maps only "us.iso.acc.kbd" worked somewhat.
>>>>>> The keyboard 9 key block above the arrow keys don't function.
>>>>>> Issuing the "man cmd_name" command doe's display the man page,
>>>>>> but the {Page up, Page down keys } don't work.
>>>>>> Also when using the "ee" edit command the {delete, Page up, Page down
>>>>>> keys } don't work. This does not happen in any of the previous
> releases.
>>>>>> Further more, localization of the keyboard should not be forced on the
>>>>>> user during the install process. This BSDinstall option should be
>>>>>> disabled or removed.
>>>>>
>>>>> You can press "Cancel" there, which will cancel keymap selection and
> keep the default. The utility being invoked is just kbdmap(1), and any
> changes to it need to go there.
>>>>> -Nathan
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> .. maybe name that button "skip" then?
>>>>
>>> The button is provided by kbdmap, as is the entire screen. We could add
>> an "installer" mode to kbdmap that names it skip instead of cancel, of
>> course. I'm traveling for another 2 weeks and won't have time to do >that,
> however.
>>> -Nathan
>>>
>> Nathan
>>
>> Its good to be talking directly with the bsdinstall author.
>>
>> Changing the cancel button in the kbdmap command to skip, does not address
> the problem, which is the lack of knowledge of the standard bsdinstall user.
> I've been using Freebsd since 4.0 and never used the kbdmap command or for
> that matter even knew it existed.
> 
> Wait, are you suggesting that everyone on Earth can "make do" with the
> "standard" keyboard layout until they learn rc.conf syntax?
> 
> I would strongly object if localisation of the keyboard were not "forced on"
> the user; we don't all use pc105-us, and the ability to use the keyboard
> properly early on is kinda helpful.
> 
> Chris
> 
> 
You would help yourself a great deal if you read the complete post 
before jumping in. The rest of the post (ie: the part you neglected to 
include in your post) clearly describes what I am suggesting.



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