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Date:      Mon, 27 Sep 1999 06:30:01 -0700 (PDT)
From:      Alexey Zelkin <phantom@cris.net>
To:        freebsd-doc@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: docs/13333: remove rtld(1) XREF in dlopen.3
Message-ID:  <199909271330.GAA92407@freefall.freebsd.org>

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The following reply was made to PR docs/13333; it has been noted by GNATS.

From: Alexey Zelkin <phantom@cris.net>
To: Mike Pritchard <mpp@FreeBSD.ORG>
Cc: "Steven G. Kargl" <kargl@troutmask.apl.washington.edu>,
	FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject: Re: docs/13333: remove rtld(1) XREF in dlopen.3
Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1999 16:13:27 +0400

 hi,
 
 On Mon, Sep 27, 1999 at 07:12:09AM -0500, Mike Pritchard wrote:
 
 > > > Only after removing the refernce to rtld(1) :-).
 > > Maybe we just should replace rtld(1) reference with ld.so(1) reference ?
 > > I not sure that dinamic linker routine dlopen(3) not referencing dinamic
 > > loader (ld.so(1)). Just for note: we still have no elf(5) manpage (but as I
 > > know it's in progress) and we still have no ELF dinamic loader (ld-elf.so(1)).
 > 
 > I'm no loader expert, so I'll leave that to someone else.  But,
 Let's ask about this specific question loader maintainer.
 
 [I added Cc: to jdp@FreeBSD.ORG (ld-elf.so maintainer) and hope that he'll
 clarify this question]
 
 > ld.so(1) also isn't on my 3.2, or 3.3 systems, much less the actual
 > ld.so binary.  It is on my 4.0 system, but I suspect that is left over 
 > from when this machine used to be 2.2.8 before I upgraded it to 3.2 then
 > 4.0.  I should really do a fresh 4.0 install on this machine :-(.
 :-)
 
 > Someone is slowly working on an elf(5) man page.
 >
 > As a side note, link(5) could probably use a "SEE ALSO" section.
 Agreed.
 
 > > It means that we will not remove rtld(1) refernce, but create rtld(1)
 > > manpage (which by default will describe ELF format). And current rtld(1)
 > > manpage (a.out) will be installed under share/man/man1aout.
 > 
 > I don't have an rtld command installed on any of my 3.2, 3.3, or 4.0 systems,
 > so I don't think we need to create a man page for it.
 Why not ? Please take a look on src/libexec/rtld-aout/rtld.1. Pay special
 attention to first ".Nm" directive. It says that rtld(1) and ld.so(1) are same
 utils and, depends on my output "locate ld-elf.so", I sure that ELF variant of
 rtld.1 manpage (ld-elf.so.1) will be added into FreeBSD source tree.
 
 2John Polstra: Am I right ?
 
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