From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 13 01:00:10 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB76316A41B for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 01:00:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from beech@freebsd.org) Received: from freebsd.alaskaparadise.com (freebsd.alaskaparadise.com [208.79.80.117]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0CB813C448 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 01:00:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from beech@freebsd.org) Received: from 137-42-178-69.gci.net (137-42-178-69.gci.net [69.178.42.137]) by freebsd.alaskaparadise.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05A8B238358C; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 01:00:09 +0000 (UTC) From: Beech Rintoul To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 16:00:00 -0900 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <20071212213200.D576216A469@hub.freebsd.org> <200712121701.57460.mi+mill@aldan.algebra.com> In-Reply-To: <200712121701.57460.mi+mill@aldan.algebra.com> X-Face: jC2w\k*Q1\0DA2Q0Eh&BrP/Rt2M,^2O#R07VoT98m*>miQF9%Bi9vy`F6cPjwEe?m,)=?utf-8?q?2=0A=09X=3FM=5C=3AOE9QgZ?="xT3/n3,3MJ7N=Cfkmi%f(w^~X"SUxn>; 27NO; C+)g[7J`$G*SN>{<=?utf-8?q?O=3Bg7=7C=0A=09o=7D=265A=5D4?=@7D`=Eb@Zs1Ln814?]|k@'bG=.Ca"[|8+_.OsNAo8!#?4u MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="koi8-u" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200712121600.04610.beech@freebsd.org> Cc: Mikhail Teterin Subject: Re: Ion3 removal (Re: Ion3 license violation) X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Beech Rintoul List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 01:00:10 -0000 On Wednesday 12 December 2007, Mikhail Teterin said: > > The simple fact is that Tuomo has some strange desire to blame > > packagers for all his problems with software and users. > > Yes, license-crafting lawyers are usually more polite and don't > engage in direct communications with forums such as ours. Their > licenses suck much more, however -- think Java, cdrtools, or Skype, > and all the other closed-source packages. Put Tuomo's demands in > perspective, for crying out loud... Lets not pick on Skype. While they may be closed source, they are very accommodating and interested in FreeBSD and FreeBSD users. They certainly don't put unreasonable demands on me as maintainer or the FreeBSD Project itself. I have direct access to their developers and they in fact rolled the new OSS version mostly for our benefit. There are no "28 day or rename it something else" provisions anywhere in their license. That to me is a completely unreasonable demand. Beech -- --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Beech Rintoul - FreeBSD Developer - beech@FreeBSD.org /"\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign | FreeBSD Since 4.x \ / - NO HTML/RTF in e-mail | http://www.freebsd.org X - NO Word docs in e-mail | Latest Release: / \ - http://www.FreeBSD.org/releases/6.2R/announce.html ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------