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Date:      Wed, 21 Jun 2006 13:21:51 -0700
From:      John-Mark Gurney <gurney_j@resnet.uoregon.edu>
To:        Robert Watson <rwatson@FreeBSD.org>
Cc:        current@FreeBSD.org, Kris Kennaway <kris@obsecurity.org>
Subject:   Re: FILEDESC_LOCK() implementation
Message-ID:  <20060621202151.GD82074@funkthat.com>
In-Reply-To: <20060621194412.N8526@fledge.watson.org>
References:  <20060612054115.GA42379@xor.obsecurity.org> <20060621183543.GC82074@funkthat.com> <20060621194412.N8526@fledge.watson.org>

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Robert Watson wrote this message on Wed, Jun 21, 2006 at 19:46 +0100:
> On Wed, 21 Jun 2006, John-Mark Gurney wrote:
> 
> >Kris Kennaway wrote this message on Mon, Jun 12, 2006 at 01:41 -0400:
> >>I fixed mutex profiling to a) not be as wrong and b) not suck so very 
> >>much, and here is a revised profiling trace from mysql supersmack on a 12 
> >>cpu E4500, sorted by ratio of cnt_lock/count; filedesc lock contention 
> >>(via FILEDESC_[UN]LOCK()) is the major mutex contention problem.
> >
> >Should we also look at breaking down filedesc lock to have multiple locks 
> >over the range?  I am thinking of writing a program that will have 32 
> >threads (sun4v) and all threads will be doing heavy i/o, and will be even 
> >more heavily contested on FILEDESC than the supersmack benchmark would 
> >be...
> >
> >Though this doesn't solve the problem of all 32 threads trying to do i/o 
> >on a fd in the same block though...
> 
> src/tools/tools/netrate/{http,httpd}, running in threaded mode (-t).  http 
> is a client, and accesses lots of independent fds from different threads, 
> contending the filedesc lock but not a single fd lock, whereas httpd will 
> do both, due to accepting connections.

Well, in my lfhttpd, I'd only ever have one thread accepting connections,
but then I'd have tons of threads contending on the kqueue fd...

> I would optimize very carefully here, the trade-offs are tricky, and we may 
> find that by making locking more complex, we cause cache problems, increase 
> lock hold periods, etc, even if we decrease contention.  I've wondered a 
> bit about a model where we loan fd's to threads to optimize repeated access 
> to the same fd by the same thread, but this mostly makes sense in the 
> context of a 1:1 model rather than an m:n model.

And wouldn't work for everyone pounding for kq...  Hmmm.. we could remove
kq from the fd model too...

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