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Date:      Mon, 19 Apr 1999 20:05:33 -0400
From:      Fletcher E Kittredge <fkittred@gwi.net>
To:        "John J. Paner" <jpaner@paradox.net>
Cc:        freebsd-isp@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: bsd router 
Message-ID:  <199904200005.UAA05167@mail.gwi.net>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 15 Apr 1999 13:26:58 EDT." <199904161414.KAA11371@mail.paradox.net> 

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On Thu, 15 Apr 1999 13:26:58 -0400  "John J. Paner" wrote:
> How stable will this be?    We have always used cisco with out any probs or
> downtime.

Think hard about how you will do hot swap and upgrades.  You can have
boxes that are up for a year at a time, but if you have to shut a key
piece of equipment down to upgrade the OS, etc, and have the least
problems, you can blow your downtime for the year on one incident.  IT
is harder to work out redundant routers than it is to have redundant
servers... 

How are you going to do testing and CM of this machine?  What are you
going to use as your test bed as you tinker with it to get the
configuration right?

> 
> I plan on using it for a gated box.  Will the performance of my harddrive
> make a difference to the box?  I mean once gated is loaded it will run from
> ram right?  I plan to put 128 to 256 in the machine.

Disk makes no importance.  A great guru has reported that his disk
drive even *failed* and the box kept running just fine.

> 
> Does freeBSD support dual processors ( I would like to install 2 P2-350mhz
> and split up the procs to different cpus)

Yes, but this is a total waste of time and will decrease reliability.
You can not CPU bound a router with a PCI bus.  Stick with the single
CPU.  In general, build a box with an emphasis on reliability, not
speed.  ECC RAM is way cheap and I bet even a 133mHz pentium doing
routing can max out the PCI bus with at all a reasonable profile of
packet sizes and network stability.  Concentrate on building a very
simple, very reliable box.

> 
> I plan on using the sync cards from etinc.com
> 

God help you.  I hope you are not married, childless and that no one
is depending on a job at your company.  If you value your life,
anything but Etinc.

good luck!
fletcher
> 
> PS One more :-)  Is there a way to get gated to support a simialr concept
> to hsrp?

In general, don't expect on much from gated.  It has major missing
chunks of functionality.  If you are going the route of PC routers,
either be a world class hack and be willing to support it yourself, or
stick right close to the deep and wide middle of the channel.  Use
exactly the same configuration that you know someone else has
successfully used, or stick to Ciscos.


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