From owner-cvs-all Tue Dec 11 12: 2:48 2001 Delivered-To: cvs-all@freebsd.org Received: from ns.yogotech.com (ns.yogotech.com [206.127.123.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9F2F37B416; Tue, 11 Dec 2001 12:02:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from caddis.yogotech.com (yogotech.nokia.com [4.22.66.156]) by ns.yogotech.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA09307; Tue, 11 Dec 2001 13:02:21 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from nate@yogotech.com) Received: (from nate@localhost) by caddis.yogotech.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fBBK2JZ01367; Tue, 11 Dec 2001 13:02:19 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from nate) From: Nate Williams MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15382.26187.453320.35053@caddis.yogotech.com> Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 13:02:19 -0700 To: John Baldwin Cc: Paul Richards , Wilko Bulte , cvs-committers@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org, mini@haikugeek.com, Alfred Perlstein , Mike Silbersack , Mike Barcroft Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/sys/boot/i386/loader version src/share/examp In-Reply-To: References: <868210000.1008098113@lobster.originative.co.uk> X-Mailer: VM 6.96 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid Reply-To: nate@yogotech.com (Nate Williams) Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > It has that, but it's simple. You didn't read my earlier message though where > I detailed what we _did_ do for my lab at school. We didn't use the loader at > all, instead we hacked (it was a small hack, and an #ifdef for it could be > made) boot2 to not accept user input and to boot the kernel directly. FWIW, this is what I did when I setup a lab full of insecure PC's. I simply created a custom boot loader that ignored user input. This was the best way I could think of to make the boxes secure. (That and forcing the box to boot from hard-disk first.) Since I knew the password, I could change the boot order, then stick in a floppy to do recovery. Yes, it was a pain, but security doesn't come w/out costs. Nate To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message