From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 30 22:37:27 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1188FC86; Wed, 30 Jul 2014 22:37:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ie0-x231.google.com (mail-ie0-x231.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c03::231]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BC5212F4D; Wed, 30 Jul 2014 22:37:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ie0-f177.google.com with SMTP id at20so2487119iec.22 for ; Wed, 30 Jul 2014 15:37:26 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type; bh=fGKk7JmQ/ts1TCbggXdB7r64ZYQVPzEGAeCgTMOq9cs=; b=NDy/BH1Yd6aTilmnWMEg9xET0mN/XNxDIDHGICRS85rHbr6ru8/U7lsbiwvOBpy0Ts 1H0Ty4tP16t9A2O+ZazOdiXCi1IYz8RoPG7W1L3dfL6JZTI1J8Uk0Zx6xVfytbFqPUK7 iOtwtOVvCcmo0fj1EqFxuXk6MECspPmYrxzMYhXPZreepfzMxLre6j3cr//Ztu4F8Jx4 mS42mw3r0ODGW6Fc+KnoMqhl9Px1ywyTHyLBlLlXR1uokEHoK9Foyamk91BBiMlNUqZH T0hLkKDgP165MSTVQVr/4G0os7pXr5kQH6XZCSRWAGM0AKJQQfQL+IQtFdw84RFCGMXx O7QA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.50.43.193 with SMTP id y1mr12365552igl.32.1406759846166; Wed, 30 Jul 2014 15:37:26 -0700 (PDT) Sender: kob6558@gmail.com Received: by 10.107.163.148 with HTTP; Wed, 30 Jul 2014 15:37:26 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <1406677532.1545.6.camel@lenovo.toontown> <20140730054718.GD37672@ivaldir.etoilebsd.net> <1764FA9A-2B4B-4829-B669-DAFB3584C167@freebsd.org> Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2014 15:37:26 -0700 X-Google-Sender-Auth: SfoL6lz3OHlvriFYVgP9BWwgVeo Message-ID: Subject: Re: pkg 1.3.X changed behaviour with pkg -fR xxx From: Kevin Oberman To: Jos Backus Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18 Cc: Baptiste Daroussin , Michael Gmelin , FreeBSD Ports ML X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2014 22:37:27 -0000 On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 3:29 PM, Jos Backus wrote: > On Jul 30, 2014 12:03 PM, "Kevin Oberman" wrote: > > > > On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 1:16 AM, Michael Gmelin > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > On 30 Jul 2014, at 08:58, Kevin Oberman wrote: > > > > > > > > On Tue, Jul 29, 2014 at 10:47 PM, Baptiste Daroussin < > bapt@freebsd.org> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > >>> On Tue, Jul 29, 2014 at 08:45:32PM -0300, sergio lenzi wrote: > > > >>> see the sequence of commands > > > >>> > > > >>> pkg info -qr db6 > > > >>> results.... > > > >>> redland-1.0.17_3 > > > >>> serf-1.3.6_1 > > > >>> subversion-1.8.9_7 > > > >>> apr-1.5.1.1.5.3_3 > > > >>> squidGuard-1.4_9 > > > >>> cyrus-sasl-saslauthd-2.1.26_1 > > > >>> evolution-data-server-2.32.1_11 > > > >>> bogofilter-1.2.4_2 > > > >>> ============================= > > > >>> Now the command.... > > > >>> > > > >>> pkg install -fR db6 > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> Updating repository catalogue > > > >>> DIST64 repository is up-to-date > > > >>> All repositories are up-to-date > > > >>> Checking integrity... done (0 conflicting) > > > >>> The following 1 packages will be affected (of 1037 checked): > > > >>> > > > >>> Installed packages to be REINSTALLED: > > > >>> db6-6.1.19 (forced reinstall) > > > >>> =========================== > > > >>> look that it will reinstall db6 (which is correct) > > > >>> but not will reinstall the other packages as the manual says so... > > > >>> > > > >>> Another missing thing is that pkg upgrade > > > >>> will not reinstall the packages that changed options or > > > >>> that changed direct dependencies (as pkg 1.2.X did)... > > > >>> > > > >>> Is it normal or a bug?? > > > >> This is a bug can you open a ticket on github? > > > >> > > > >> regards, > > > >> Bapt > > > > > > > > Wouldn't the FreeBSD bugzilla be a better place? > > > > > > Pkg is developed using git and hosted on GitHub. Its issue tracker > hooks > > > into the repository quite nicely, so it actually makes a lot of sense > to > > > file it there. > > > > > > https://github.com/freebsd/pkg/issues/new > > > > > > > While I understand that, it is disturbing to see a very important part of > > FreeBSD not using the FreeBSD bug tracking system. If I have a problem > with > > FreeBSD and want to see if there is a trouble report, I am not going to > > look at github (or any external tracker). I'm going to look at the > FreeBSD > > Bugzilla and I feel it is improper to have an official FreeBSD project > > recommending issues be sent to any external bug tracker in lieu of the > > official one.. > > > > Simply put, I think it is a terrible idea and should be squashed > > immediately. > > My impression was that pkg is supposed to be cross-platform and portable, > hence not FreeBSD-specific. > Jos > I have seen nothing indicating that. It's certainly not going to work with any Linux distro. It might be applicable to other BSDs, especially DragonFly, but I still believe that FreeBSD bugs belong in the FreeBSD bug system. Normally, when maintainers want to dent reports upstream to the port developers, it is up to them to do so. So the ports management team would be responsible for forwarding bugs to the github system if they think it is appropriate. -- R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer, Retired E-mail: rkoberman@gmail.com