Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 18:27:18 -0800 From: "Bruce A. Mah" <bmah@FreeBSD.ORG> To: Peter Wemm <peter@wemm.org> Cc: Murray Stokely <murray@FreeBSD.ORG>, current@FreeBSD.ORG, re@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: CVS Issues with branch.. Was: Re: HEADS UP: Be nice to -CURRENT ( "1 week Feature Slush" ) Message-ID: <200203150227.g2F2RIe27557@bmah.dyndns.org> In-Reply-To: <20020315004008.D022138CC@overcee.wemm.org> References: <20020315004008.D022138CC@overcee.wemm.org>
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[Trimming Cc list a little bit] If memory serves me right, Peter Wemm wrote: > Actually, with my CVS hat on, I have a *huge* problem with this. In the future, if you see such huge problems come up, a little more advance notice might be nice. :-( > We have a large number of "temporary" repo copies in place that are to > be deleted (ie: rm -rf) soon. This was with the plan that there would > be *NO* persistant branches and that it would be rm'ed long before the > RELENG_5 branch began. Is there more to this plan? This is news to me and I would like to get up to speed. > I had a quick look and I immediately found 55MB of duplicated repo files. > That's over 5% of the repo right now. > > I want to know what expectations people have by calling this a > "RELENG_5_XX" branch.. Given that this stuff is going to be rm'ed within a > month, that will break RELENG_5_DP1 when that happens. People will no > longer be able to cvsup or check out -r RELENG_5_DP1 and have it build. > Specifically, gcc and gdb will not build. > > If this is going to be a "static" release (calling it RELENG_5_anything is > a mistake IMHO) then this isn't a big deal. But if people are expecting > it to have ongoing secirity fixes etc like we do with RELENG_4_5 etc then > we have a problem, because it cannot last very long at all. Differences of opinion on naming aside...the branch isn't supposed to last long at all. The point is to provide a slightly polished snapshot to the wider developer community. We can't do the QA/releng work on HEAD without calling for a code freeze (which we early on decided that we would *not* do). Since it's not a formal release, we won't be doing security fixes, etc. I can't imagine why anyone would expect to cvsup this thing at some point in the distant future, especially after 5.0-DP2 and 5.0-RELEASE. Just thinking off the top of my head, having it break soon after 5.0-DP1 might not be fatal, as long as we have the CDROM and FTP areas still intact. Did you have a definite date for the rm-ing in mind? Thanks, Bruce. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
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