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Date:      Tue, 24 Jul 2007 23:00:47 +0100
From:      Vince Hoffman-Kazlauskas <>
To:        Paul Schmehl <>
Cc:, Ian Lord <>
Subject:   Re: Root access loggin
Message-ID:  <>
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\   \   Paul Schmehl wrote:
> --On Tuesday, July 24, 2007 16:01:33 -0400 Ian Lord 
> <> wrote:
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: John Fitzgerald []
>> Sent: 24 juillet 2007 15:42
>> To: Tom Grove
>> Cc:; Ian Lord
>> Subject: Re: Root access loggin
>> I may be misunderstanding this, but wouldn't allowing only certain
>> commands with sudo assume that the user actually knows what commands
>> are needed by the user? In this situation it seems like the whole
>> reason to grant access to the server was because the user _doesn't_
>> know what needs to be done.
>> ~~
>> Exactly, I don't know what needs to be done, and they don't neither.
>> That's why they need to browse around trying to figure out why their
>> installer doesn't work.
>> Sudo wouldn't be any help here cause I would need to pre approve 
>> commands
>> and I don't know which one will be needed.
> You seem to have a mistaken understanding of sudo.  You can grant them 
> access to everything that root has simply by adding their account to 
> the wheel group and using visudo to grant wheel access to everything 
> that root has access to.  You can do this with or without a 
> requirement to type your password when you use sudo.
> This will allow them to do everything they want while logging every 
> command they type.  And that seems to be exactly what you want.  So, 
> rather than giving them the root password, create an account for them, 
> add it to the wheel group and use visudo to edit 
> /usr/local/etc/sudoers to grant wheel access to everything.  (DO NOT 
> edit the file with vi!)
> To add the wheel group to a user:
> pw usermod username -G wheel
> Granting access to wheel should be self-explanatory:
> # Uncomment to allow people in group wheel to run all commands
> %wheel  ALL=(ALL)       ALL
> # %wheel        ALL=(ALL)       NOPASSWD: ALL
> That way everything they do is logged, and you don't have to 
> compromise your root password.
The problem here is that the first command I type in this situation if i 
need to run multiple commands as root it sudo su -
after that nothing is logged.  I agree with Lowell that watch(8) is 
probably the way to go.


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