From owner-freebsd-java Tue Oct 29 20: 4:22 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA89937B401 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 20:04:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from ns.yogotech.com (ns.yogotech.com [206.127.123.66]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 155EF43E42 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 20:04:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nate@yogotech.com) Received: from emerger.yogotech.com (emerger.yogotech.com [206.127.123.131]) by ns.yogotech.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA10972; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 21:04:17 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from nate@yogotech.com) Received: (from nate@localhost) by emerger.yogotech.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) id g9U44GLD033543; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 21:04:16 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from nate) From: Nate Williams MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15807.23103.607937.532250@emerger.yogotech.com> Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 21:04:15 -0700 To: Greg Lewis Cc: Mikhail Kruk , java@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: wake up call for Sun? In-Reply-To: <20021030142457.A30528@misty.eyesbeyond.com> References: <20021030142457.A30528@misty.eyesbeyond.com> X-Mailer: VM 7.07 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid Reply-To: nate@yogotech.com (Nate Williams) Sender: owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > Maybe this belongs more on the advocacy list, then please forgive me, > > but I thikn this is an interesting read: > > http://public.yahoo.com/~radwin/talks/yahoo-phpcon2002.htm > > in particular slide 24. > > > > Yahoo engineer is talking about why they selected PHP as the new scripting > > platform for Yahoo.com. > > > > ...as far as I understand we are quite close to having a *real* Java > > implementation on FreeBSD now, and I, as everyone else, really appreaciate > > the job that the gudid on the porting effort, I just think that Sun may > > realize now that it should have been a bit more helpful with the FreeBSD > > port. > > I read the same thing, but I wasn't quite sure what he was driving at. > As I recall the slide mentioned something about threading problems. > So, either they were using the Linux version and HotSpot was crashing > or they wanted to use the native version on an SMP box and use some sort > of kernel threading so it would use all of the processors. For scalability purposes, they would need 'native' FreeBSD threads. The linux thread stuff works, but doesn't scale more. Plus, the person who was pushing the effort was a big PHP fan, so there was little liklihood Java would have been chosen. Nate To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message