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Date:      Sun, 17 Nov 2002 05:26:04 +0100 (CET)
From:      home@jukkis.net
To:        freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: FreeBSD: Server or Desktop OS?
Message-ID:  <XFMail.20021117052604.home@jukkis.net>
In-Reply-To: <20021116221745.X23359-100000@hub.org>

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On 17-Nov-2002 Marc G. Fournier wrote:
> But, back to my question "What happens when RELENG_4_7 crashes?" ... in
> the past, before I did anything else, I'd upgrade to -STABLE, figuring it
> might be something that someone else caught and was fixed ... but, looking
> at the above changes in RELENG_4_7, it seems that reporting the crash is
> more or less useless ... if its already fixed in -STABLE, is someone going
> to MFC it down to RELENG_4_7?
> 
> Up until this weekend, I had two heavily used/loaded servers pounding on
> -STABLE ... if one crashed, I had netdump in place to dump core to the
> other server, so that I had a crashdump ... and I'd report the results I
> could figure out, in hopes that *someone* would look at it and get it
> fixed, or ask me for more information on the bug ... basically, I'd risk a
> crash in the hopes of solidifying the OS for the next release, but I kind
> of hope(d) that -STABLE would at least run for more then a day or two :(
> 

Isn't that the point? You run -STABLE to ensure that it is and will 
become -STABLE. If it's not, you will let everyone know that. How long have you
been running stable, and how many times have you had to tell that it's crashing?
FWIW, I have not had serious problems for 3 years. That's pretty good for me,
but that's not how it's supposed to be. The way it should be, is that I should
have problems at least every year, to give some feedback that "this particular
thing is not working" - of course, the more seldom, the better..

As for the alpha/beta, current/stable thing, I've always said, -current is
*the* *most* *absolute* *dont-expect-it-to-work* *latest* version, -stable is
"-stabler" really. RELEASE is "the version that the people who know better,
have chosen to be the representative of the current FreeBSD status"..

my 2 cents.

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[17-Nov-2002  05:11:53]

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