From owner-freebsd-chat Sun Jun 17 7:40:50 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from tsunami.acidpit.org (tsunami.solveinteractive.com [206.190.163.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF12337B409 for ; Sun, 17 Jun 2001 07:40:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rch@acidpit.org) Received: by tsunami.acidpit.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id D4BD61F20; Sun, 17 Jun 2001 10:39:22 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 10:39:22 -0400 From: Robert Hough To: Chris Moline Cc: chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: System Tuning/Sysadmins Message-ID: <20010617103922.A79022@acidpit.org> References: <20010617063505.A29241@shell.monmouth.com> <20010617073505.B20171@h24-67-61-12.lb.shawcable.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010617073505.B20171@h24-67-61-12.lb.shawcable.net>; from ugly-daemon@home.com on Sun, Jun 17, 2001 at 07:35:05 -0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, Jun 17, 2001, Chris Moline wrote: > > Making the os easier to use is not a bad thing. Agreed, but knowing old ways is a "Good Thing(tm)" as you never know when you'll encounter some ancient box sitting in the back of some den, performing old production tasks everyone now takes for granted, because it's been doing it so long. > What's wrong with using an easier to use tool?? If it does everything > you need then I say it's good enough The problem isn't using the new tool, it's only knowing how to use the new tool. What are you going to do if for someone reason X fails to start and you can't get to this super-groovy gui? What happens when if someone deletes the useradd/adduser utilities (It's happened)? I'm all for the snazzy new tools that are coming out. I use metatool under Solaris all the time, simply because typing in all those commands when building a new volume gets really freaking old. I can do it if I must though. Now, if I could just get them to use veritas instead, cause metatool annoys the piss out of me. -- Robert Hough (rch@acidpit.org) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message