From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 23 17:29:55 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C4AC16A50A for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2007 17:29:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from donovan@dmpnet.org) Received: from mazar.dmpnet.org (mazar.dmpnet.org [87.127.11.92]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2175013C494 for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2007 17:29:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from donovan@dmpnet.org) Received: from DonovansLaptop (ibm-laptop.dmpnet.org [192.168.67.101]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-MD5 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mazar.dmpnet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D3DA2F6E for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2007 18:29:13 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <009e01c8159a$3f679900$6543a8c0@DonovansLaptop> From: "Donovan R. Palmer" To: References: <20071023004214.GA49936@demeter.hydra><005401c8153a$780e7900$6543a8c0@DonovansLaptop> <20071023144639.GB83415@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 18:29:21 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Subject: Re: Is it difficult to move from Linux? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 17:29:55 -0000 One of the biggest attractions, among many, is that you install the BSD base and then add what you want to it. I have increasingly become tired of having to spend a tonne of time taking a tonne of stuff out of a Linux distro that I don't need. Of course, part of this is that I am a generally focused user and particularly I am mainly after server type functions. I suppose it might be a bit different if I wanted a desktop replacement and didn't mind having a bunch of things to play with over time. Many thanks again. I have saved many of your emails for future reference. I am blown away at the response and willingness to help. I didn't think that existed any more in cyberspace! Donovan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jerry McAllister" To: "Donovan R. Palmer" Cc: Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 3:46 PM Subject: Re: Is it difficult to move from Linux? > On Tue, Oct 23, 2007 at 07:03:44AM +0100, Donovan R. Palmer wrote: > >> Friends... thank you for all of your responses. Last night I read a big >> chunk of the handbook and read articles such as >> http://www.over-yonder.net/~fullermd/rants/bsd4linux/bsd4linux1.php Very >> helpful. I was impressed with the quality of the documentation and I like >> the disciplined approach to FreeBSD. >> >> The more I read, the more I was convinced that FreeBSD was what I was >> looking for and would satisfy some of my needs/disillusionment with >> Linux. >> I look forward to putting it on a box and starting the learn the >> differences. Many thanks again! > > I think you are right. > > A couple of thing I forgot to mention. > > First, the default shell in FreeBSD is tcsh. > I like it for most things and find myself grinding my teeth at bash, > but you can easily change the shell to suit you. If it is bash, then > you need to install it from ports and enter it in /etc/shells and > then change your /etc/passwd entry using vipw(8). > > The other one that can make things easier is that the directory > and file layout is described in a man page. man hier will get it > for you and can be very valuable in getting used to FreeBSD. > > Note that all the directories listed in hier from / down to /stand need > to be in the root file system for things to work, especially at boot > time and in single user mode. > > ////jerry > >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Chad Perrin" >> To: >> Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 1:42 AM >> Subject: Re: Is it difficult to move from Linux? >> >> >> >On Mon, Oct 22, 2007 at 07:33:57PM +0100, Donovan R. Palmer wrote: >> >> >> >>I have been using Linux for over 10 years, but have for a number of >> >>reasons >> >>become very interested in learning to use FreeBSD. Are there any ex or >> >>current Linux users here and could you tell me how hard it is to make >> >>the >> >>shift from Linux? Is there anything in particular which has been >> >>written >> >>which would be useful to read? >> > >> >I found it dead easy -- much, much easier than making the switch from MS >> >Windows to Linux was. >> > >> >The best source of information on FreeBSD for new FreeBSD users is, in >> >my >> >opinion, the FreeBSD handbook: >> > >> > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/ >> > >> >Another excellent source of information is The Complete FreeBSD: >> > >> > http://www.lemis.com/grog/Documentation/CFBSD/ >> > >> >There are a couple other books out there that I've found to be quite >> >excellent, as well. >> > >> >In general, I think you'll find much of the differences between most >> >Linux distributions and FreeBSD quite minor, but a touch strange at >> >first, and in the long run very positive. At least, that's my >> >experience. >> > >> >-- >> >CCD CopyWrite Chad Perrin [ http://ccd.apotheon.org ] >> >They always say that when life gives you lemons you should make >> >lemonade. >> >I always wonder -- isn't the lemonade going to suck if life doesn't give >> >you any sugar? >> >_______________________________________________ >> >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> >To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> >"freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > >> >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >