From owner-freebsd-current Thu Aug 16 23:35:56 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from harrier.mail.pas.earthlink.net (harrier.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.121.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B86ED37B412; Thu, 16 Aug 2001 23:35:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tlambert2@mindspring.com) Received: from mindspring.com (dialup-209.247.136.134.Dial1.SanJose1.Level3.net [209.247.136.134]) by harrier.mail.pas.earthlink.net (EL-8_9_3_3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA29511; Thu, 16 Aug 2001 23:34:49 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3B7CBB33.EE122ACD@mindspring.com> Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 23:35:31 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Reply-To: tlambert2@mindspring.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-CCK-MCD {Sony} (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Julian Elischer Cc: Poul-Henning Kamp , Greg Lehey , Andrew Kenneth Milton , Michael Lucas , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: devfs deficiencies (was: devfs and Vinum (was: any -current &&vinum problems?)) References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Julian Elischer wrote: > > If it is to be counted as my only achivement on -core that I timed > > out SLICE and DEVFS, I'll still be proud of what I did there. > > Well you timed them out without askling the developer what he had in the > wings and that was more than impolite, it was stupid, because most of the > shortcomings of devfs and SLICE had been solved and all I was waiting for > was the CAM switchover, so that I didn't have to do everything twice. It's not his only accomplishment. He also helped kill LFS by moving it to the attic, and killed block devices, even though we know that the Apple DVD code needed both block and character versions of a disk device to support the DVDFS and the ISO9660FS at the same time. The block device issue is a sore point, since it's now practically impossible to generate tapes with odd byte boundaries instead of full records (thus causing an implicit "conv=sysnc", even if you don't want one). I seem to remember you supporting him killing block devices... -- Terry To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message