From owner-freebsd-scsi Thu Feb 28 13: 7:36 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org Received: from aslan.scsiguy.com (aslan.scsiguy.com [63.229.232.106]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0CC637B405; Thu, 28 Feb 2002 13:07:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from scsiguy.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by aslan.scsiguy.com (8.11.6/8.11.5) with ESMTP id g1SL8CI61450; Thu, 28 Feb 2002 14:08:12 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from gibbs@scsiguy.com) Message-Id: <200202282108.g1SL8CI61450@aslan.scsiguy.com> To: sos@freebsd.dk Cc: Kenneth Culver , "Kenneth D. Merry" , Julian Elischer , Thomas Quinot , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Updated ATAPI/CAM patches In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 28 Feb 2002 21:58:00 +0100." <200202282058.g1SKw0Q00966@freebsd.dk> Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2002 14:08:12 -0700 From: "Justin T. Gibbs" Sender: owner-freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >> What functionality is lost by this ability? > >Compare the features of the ATAPI vs SCSI CD drivers.. This is exactly why I'd like to see this code merged. The hardware changes too rapidly. The specs change too rapidly but MMC is MMC. More of us are getting wives we need to take out to dinner and children to play with, so having duplicated functionality like this just ensures that too many of us are sacrificing our free time instead of working together to get a clean solution. I will go on record right now and as I've said before, there are changes that are needed in CAM land in order for me to accept this change. Due to the growing pressure to get this stuff in, I'll work with Scott and Ken to make sure we have *the right* solution for this in the next couple of weeks. Thomas' code is a great prototype, but we need to do this right so that Soren can concentrate on making X, Y, and Z new ATA chip work, we can collaborate on making our MMC device support the best in the OpenSource world, and we all have free time left over to tend to our personal lives. -- Justin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-scsi" in the body of the message