From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 13 03:46:24 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 984EE16A419 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 03:46:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mspitzer@gmail.com) Received: from ro-out-1112.google.com (ro-out-1112.google.com [72.14.202.177]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E28B13C461 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 03:46:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mspitzer@gmail.com) Received: by ro-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id k5so65811rog.13 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 19:46:23 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=FfhK81nnZ+cl+IOGmk2DEnVx0tl6gJtlsEetKDF8Euo=; b=GlJGiu+oX2CS/u8TQ87QeJb6KpfZ4mi/pZLXTiuuUtw74M4lENZFxblPoHB+plm6lSD/f0ZeMO41RBcBWI+KdgheWn1ToStVhd6c90g+rhbR1mk+3aaQKhdGl6VAUMI/rusWMMr4yq8To6RKL61nQ2GRU1Te2sYcB4MqxhSYjoo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=MSisC27NJv4CTh0//RMJ0ICLYsd995B8eZFsJl/GsV+ZZfwgQhgZXeb/SeBo/Qxs5Ndu+Z4+QQokNcASvy6jvoPKdsLzZ3IvhBbUTQg9F5YWEjbOr4jbncr2B+v7usFbXjhUDRLr8bCPLz0jHqo9rQFmhQAo7o9AMKDc3k6z5TY= Received: by 10.114.120.1 with SMTP id s1mr1661620wac.107.1197516638889; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 19:30:38 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.205.5 with HTTP; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 19:30:38 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <8c50a3c30712121930h253f7d76tb96f7b7e979697c0@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 22:30:38 -0500 From: "Marc Spitzer" To: "Chuck Robey" In-Reply-To: <47609DDC.1080809@chuckr.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <53e3a9930712060959t6f446534xee6ba49d043dd70a@mail.gmail.com> <200712110441.VAA05322@lariat.net> <1481.163.178.104.130.1197385733.squirrel@webmail9.pair.com> <200712111701.lBBH1LKH004886@fire.js.berklix.net> <200712111818.LAA17407@lariat.net> <475F1214.5020601@csub.edu> <47609DDC.1080809@chuckr.org> Cc: Russell Jackson , Tom Wickline , "Julian H. Stacey" , freebsd-chat@freebsd.org, Brett Glass Subject: Re: Wine compatibility and performance on FreeBSD 7 X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 03:46:24 -0000 On Dec 12, 2007 9:50 PM, Chuck Robey wrote: > Russell Jackson wrote: > > Brett Glass wrote: > >> At 10:01 AM 12/11/2007, Julian H. Stacey wrote: > >> > >>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wine_%28software%29 > >>> "... originally released Wine under the same MIT License as the X > >>> Window System, but owing to concern about proprietary versions > >>> of Wine not contributing their changes back to the core project, > >>> work as of March 2002 has used the LGPL" > >> What apparently happened is that one or two of the developers of Wine > >> got their knickers in a twist about the idea that -- heaven forbid! -- > >> someone might possibly make some money for the enhancements they made > >> to Wine. > > > > Don't FUD. Nothing stops anyone from making money off GPL'ed software. The real reason is > > that TransGaming et al weren't contributing anything back and wouldn't provide the source > > to users who bought binaries in a usable fashion. > > What a huge distortion. How many company conferences have you sat in > on, as company lawyers tried to figure out what would have to change if > they used GPL software? If you say "none" then you are either lying or > you haven't been called into those meetings (lucky you). No such > problems with BSD. The GPL folks want to be able to coerce folks into > doing things their way, but don't want to be seen as coercing folks, so > they do a Wink'N'A'Nod towards the truth. It's still coercion. > One of the interesting things about socialism, in all in many evil forms(including gnu/fsf), is that they simply must lie about their program or no one of average intelligence would be stupid enough to sign up for it. It just goes to show you that without G_d religion gets much much worse. marc > > > >> (Never mind that the marketing and development costs for their > >> commercial versions of Wine were eating all of their profits, and it was > >> unclear whether they actually WOULD make any money.) Also, it is rumored > >> (though I have not seen proof of it) that John Gilmore, an underwriter of > >> the Wine project, threatened to withdraw support from some of these > >> developers unless the license was switched to the GPL, thus forcing their > >> hands. > >> > > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-chat@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-chat > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-chat-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- Freedom is nothing but a chance to be better. Albert Camus