From owner-freebsd-hackers Fri Aug 7 18:39:51 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA07890 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Fri, 7 Aug 1998 18:39:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from implode.root.com (implode.root.com [198.145.90.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA07867; Fri, 7 Aug 1998 18:39:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from root@implode.root.com) Received: from implode.root.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by implode.root.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA00798; Fri, 7 Aug 1998 18:35:55 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199808080135.SAA00798@implode.root.com> To: Brett Glass cc: Ollivier Robert , FreeBSD-security@FreeBSD.ORG, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Does this mean we have another breakin? In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 07 Aug 1998 15:17:43 MDT." <199808072337.RAA13808@lariat.lariat.org> From: David Greenman Reply-To: dg@root.com Date: Fri, 07 Aug 1998 18:35:55 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >We were about to do it AGAIN. Now we're holding out some hope that it's >just a bug -- though perhaps the same one that's crashing us when we try to >back up. > >In any event, I just received private e-mail stating that at least one >person has encountered VM problems in -stable under heavy CPU loads when >the swapper kicks in. According to the message, they cause corruption of >file modification dates. Corruption is probably not the right word. There might be a bug where a page is seen as modified when it isn't, causing the modify date to get updated. The only way to be certain is to compare the binary with your backup (e.g. if installed from CDROM, then with the copy on the CDROM). I haven't personally seen this happen in more than a year, so if the bug is still there, it must be fairly rare. -DG David Greenman Co-founder/Principal Architect, The FreeBSD Project To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message