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Date:      Thu, 5 Sep 2002 09:41:54 -0700 (PDT)
From:      "Neal E. Westfall" <nwestfal@directvinternet.com>
To:        Dave Hayes <dave@jetcafe.org>
Cc:        Terry Lambert <tlambert2@mindspring.com>, <chat@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   Re: Why did evolution fail? 
Message-ID:  <20020905093315.G41451-100000@Tolstoy.home.lan>
In-Reply-To: <200209050618.g856Ii189601@hokkshideh2.jetcafe.org>

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On Wed, 4 Sep 2002, Dave Hayes wrote:

> Neal E Westfall <nwestfal@directvinternet.com> writes:
> >> >> > What questions which cannot be dealt with rationally?
> >> >>
> >> >> "Is there a God?" "Why are we here?" "What is the one difference
> >> >> between a sacred being and an evil being?"
> >> >>
> >> >> Those are some examples. Have fun. ;)
> >> >
> >> > How to deal with them rationally: "I don't know".
> >>
> >> That is the first step to wisdom. |)
> >
> > Either that, or "The fear of the Lord...etc." (Prov. 1:7)
> > 8-)
>
> I completely disagree that fear has anything to do with any supreme
> being of the universe.
>
> If you are in fear of Hell or in desire of Heaven, these are not
> appropriate reasons to go around supporting God.

You may be suprised, but I agree.  Fear of Hell or desire of Heaven
*are not* proper motivations for serving God.  Hence the Psalmist's
statement that fear of the Lord is the *beginning* of wisdom.  God
must be served out of a perfect motivation.  Does anybody have that?
No, hence the need for a savior who paid the price of my sins on my
behalf, but also served and obeyed God from perfect motivation on
my behalf.  When God looks at me in Christ, he does not see all my
sin and rebellion, but only the perfect righteousness of Christ.


> (Good lord, how did I get into a -real- religious argument? ;) )

These issues come up from time to time.  8-)


Neal



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