From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 25 00:01:35 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCDF9106567A for ; Fri, 25 Feb 2011 00:01:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8433E8FC12 for ; Fri, 25 Feb 2011 00:01:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-143-131.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.143.131]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DB731E75F; Fri, 25 Feb 2011 01:01:34 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id p1P01Xnr004278; Fri, 25 Feb 2011 01:01:34 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 01:01:33 +0100 From: Polytropon To: 839273@gmail.com Message-Id: <20110225010133.e0744c68.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <4D61599E.4040008@gmail.com> <20110224234044.0df661c1.freebsd@edvax.de> <20110224225425.GB13490@guilt.hydra> <20110225001301.e4f6d95f.freebsd@edvax.de> <21929_1298589484_4D66E72C_21929_309_1_D9B37353831173459FDAA836D3B43499BD35499F@WADPMBXV0.waddell.com> <20110225004219.bfbbbd77.freebsd@edvax.de> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Backtick versus $() X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 00:01:35 -0000 On Thu, 24 Feb 2011 19:15:22 -0430, Andres Perera wrote: > funny how you point out trivialities and go on to mention one yourself For an interactive command line shell, it's the "trivialities" that count - for _me_, which indicates that other persons may have very different preferences and requirements. My general impressions are quite good, but they are from a usage point of view, not paying attention to how things are implemented internally. >From my short visit in mksh (which I'm glad to know about now) I found that it does the most things that _I_ do require very well, and even better than bash (although it is more popular). Such trivial things include a standard UNIX prompt (maybe with collapsing $HOME to ~), least interactive comletition behaviour (in opposite to bash), and nice history functions (such as entering a few letters and then parse history with of all command that start that way). Those are things that worked out of the box (except PS1), and that's a really good thing. Additionally, installation went fast, didn't incorporate tons of dependencies, and resulted in a nice small binary - as this would be important today... :-) But it's worth being mentioned. So far, I will see if I will keep using this shell, as it is really promising. Still I would not suggest to remove csh from the system and replace it with mksh. If licensing allows it, it's maybe worth adding mksh to the system, but that is a decision _I_ am not the right person for. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ...