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Date:      Fri, 27 Oct 2000 04:45:32 -0700 (PDT)
From:      "Todd P. Whitesel" <toddpw@apricot.com>
To:        toddpw@apricot.com (Todd P. Whitesel)
Cc:        sos@freebsd.dk, toddpw@apricot.com, freebsd-bugs@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: i386/22240: unstable UDMA on Iwill VD133PL v1.6 (Apollo MVP3, IDE rev 0x10)
Message-ID:  <200010271145.EAA04930@kamidake.apricot.com>
In-Reply-To: <200010260906.CAA16942@kamidake.apricot.com> from "Todd P. Whitesel" at "Oct 26, 0 02:06:09 am"

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> > Hmm, if you can get access to some different brands of memory that could
> > shed some new light on this...

I just tested two new 64 MB modules with CMT Labs "Gold" stickers on them,
purchased at a local PC chop-shop "hole in the wall" place that we've had
good experiences with so far...

They did not improve things any. Also I tried removing the network card and
switching from AGP to PCI video; still the same predictably flaky behavior.

At this point I have to suspect one of four cases:
    1. received two bad P3/733EB's (really unlikely)
    2. received two bad motherboards (seems likely)
    3. Iwill VD133PL or the VIA 133Pro itself have "issues" (possible)
    4. VIA made some subtle hardware change that needs O/S support (hrm)

In any case I am sick of spending my last four weekends trying to get these
working. Time to visit the chop-shop and get them to let me try one of the
newer i815 boards, and probably end up going with those.

> Will do. In the meantime I am going to keep stressing the other memory module
> and see if I can get it to fail the BIOS test as well. That's my proof when I

It's been running happily in my trusty PC100 machine for 12 hours and counting,
whereas the other module caused trouble in the same machine within minutes.

I can no longer believe that the memory modules are solely responsible for
what I'm seeing.

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