From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 10 12:20:48 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF1F3106566B for ; Sat, 10 Dec 2011 12:20:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-ey0-f182.google.com (mail-ey0-f182.google.com [209.85.215.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72F9F8FC23 for ; Sat, 10 Dec 2011 12:20:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: by eaai12 with SMTP id i12so2563014eaa.13 for ; Sat, 10 Dec 2011 04:20:47 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=aIfBUeFvLDAM6H+ujl8sbfZLY9mxcU4drnyq5lRjuaQ=; b=G6vYT1y9UaRu+7dZJwwVs/Od8OUU+uXYzCs+zuhW7aMmvwqnjhkxjZMYHbTs9TfuKX oYcPepRxhSJHOLr9MWT9DIc6kx+sJDPfrcpnrQIKFr2OhtY6KbkpvWvUBwJ3IToI7+Xp TJjjCRHw58L5NTlorWmQVayJjpdHQ9Bko+Eps= Received: by 10.213.29.148 with SMTP id q20mr1043494ebc.94.1323519647331; Sat, 10 Dec 2011 04:20:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com (87-194-105-247.bethere.co.uk. [87.194.105.247]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id z43sm32744952eef.7.2011.12.10.04.20.44 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 10 Dec 2011 04:20:45 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2011 12:20:42 +0000 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20111210122042.2b355bc6@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <20111210114053.GA69009@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> References: <4EE32BB6.3020105@herveybayaustralia.com.au> <20111210114053.GA69009@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.10 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: 9.0 install and journaling X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2011 12:20:48 -0000 On Sat, 10 Dec 2011 11:40:53 +0000 Frank Shute wrote: > On Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 07:51:50PM +1000, R Skinner wrote: > > possibly could, but it escaped me as to how. And before I do- I > > looked up journaling on 9. I couldn't quite get to the bottom of > > whether it is or isn't available/standard, or how to determine its > > happening. I'm only interested because of unexpected > > shutdowns/battery dead on the laptop- I also have 500G which is a > > while to wait for fsck. Speed I'd like, but I have to consider > > system integrity first. > I'm unfamiliar with the new bsdinstaller but AFAIK it sets up a UFS2 > filesystem for you. > > This comes with background fsck and softupdates which achieve the > objective of not having to wait for a lengthy foreground fsck if you > don't shutdown your laptop cleanly. > > > but to be honest, I wouldn't bother in your position: it's just more > stuff to go wrong for no appreciable gain to you. 9.0 also supports soft-update journalling which eliminates the background fsck. If you don't know whether it's on or not you can run tunefs -p / If it's not on then tunefs can turn it on, but you will presumably need to reboot into single user mode.