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Date:      Tue, 5 Oct 1999 08:30:01 +0200
From:      Gunnar Flygt <gunnar@pluto.sr.se>
To:        Ade Lovett <ade@lovett.com>
Cc:        FreeBSD Questions <freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org>
Subject:   Re: GNOME: Does anyone use it?
Message-ID:  <19991005083001.A57727@sr.se>
In-Reply-To: <19991004162614.H65863@lovett.com>
References:  <99100408410801.37693@fdho-w5.fdnet.com> <ML-3.4.939069020.2749.patl@asimov> <19991004162614.H65863@lovett.com>

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On Mon, Oct 04, 1999 at 04:26:14PM -0500, Ade Lovett wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 04, 1999 at 01:30:20PM -0700, patl@phoenix.volant.org wrote:
> > 
> > [snip]
> >
> > I do this one port at a time instead of
> > letting make handle the dependancies.  (This is a big enough PITA
> > that I don't upgrade that often.  My last update was 9 July.  I'll
> > be trying the current versions in a few days when I upgrade the OS
> > to 3.3.)
> 
> I'd suggest that you hold off doing an update for a short while.
> 
> The GNOME folks are almost ready to release a 1.0.50 version (initially
> scheduled for end of September), and a number of us are working on the
> necessary port updates (by my reckoning there are no less than 23 ports
> that have to be updated).
> 
> This particular GNOME update is going to be even more messy (if that
> were possible :) than the last few, since glib/gtk+ have to be updated
> to 1.2.5 for gnome-core (and ports that depend on it) to work.
> 
> Which means an awful lot of package deleting and recompiling/adding.

It would be of very much help, if all this "package deleting and
recompiling/adding" was commented in some kind of README in the base
GNOME ports directorys. I've given up on trying to keep the thing going.
> 
> Regarding stability, I've found FreeBSD GNOME to be about the same
> as running under Linux (RedHat 5.2) -- during the bigger updates, I
> tend to run two systems side by side (admittedly as virtual hosts
> under VMWare/NT).
> 
> Of course, as with everything, if people don't know about the problems,
> then it becomes that much more difficult to fix them, either with
> GNOME itself, or the FreeBSD ports thereof.
> 
> Things are compounded for non-Linux people by GNOME's horribly
> (in some places) Linux-centric nature (take a peek at the size of
> some of the patches in /usr/ports to see what I mean).
> 
> We try extremely hard not to introduce any further problems in the
> porting process, but GNOME is absolutely huge, and RealJobs[tm] tend
> to get in the way.
> 
> -aDe
> 
> -- 
> Ade Lovett, Austin, TX.
> 
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