From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Oct 28 23:27:52 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA14509 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 23:27:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from cockatoo.aus.org (bsd.aus.org [199.166.246.189]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA14500 for ; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 23:27:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from lh@cockatoo.aus.org) Received: (from lh@localhost) by bsd.aus.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id AAA02392 for doc@freebsd.org; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 00:57:47 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from lh) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3-beta-042198 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 00:57:47 -0500 (EST) From: Luke To: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: helping people Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Im not 100% sure this is the right place to mention this, but as someone who doesnt spend much time on irc, and went there finding no answer to their question , but many people with simple questions who could be helped, I spend most of my time with FreeBSD porting/developing software , and dont have much trouble fixing a port which is marked as broken. I realize the FreeBSD project probably doesnt have responsibiltiy for #freebsd on efnet , which garners more sarcastic and demoralizing comments to stupid questions in which "man blech" would be much more helpful. but even irc.freebsd.org is much the same. Personally I dont really need the help, found what i wanted in the handbook shortly after asking on EFnet #freebsd and seeing the responses. God I feel guilty and moronic after asking, and finding it in the handbook. My main thing is if there is going to be a irc.freebsd.org, the freebsd.org project should distance itself from any other irc networks and jerks who could be quiet as opposed to offering sarcastic insults shouldn't be on irc.freebsd.org#freebsd like I said to a few on EFnet, I have never used linux but i bet a small part of its popularity is that you can go on #linux and not feel belittled and small-minded for asking what may be a simple question to some. Despite this I'm not switching from FreeBSD I find it more intelligently arranged than our solaris and linux machines, I am just commenting on my experience on irc. thanks, whatever. --- E-Mail: Luke Sent by XFMail ---------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message