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Date:      Sun, 27 May 2001 19:52:29 -0700
From:      Mike Smith <msmith@freebsd.org>
To:        obrien@freebsd.org
Cc:        "Daniel C. Sobral" <dcs@newsguy.com>, core@freebsd.org, alpha@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: broken loader? 
Message-ID:  <200105280252.f4S2qTA05760@mass.dis.org>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sun, 27 May 2001 17:08:10 PDT." <20010527170810.A91713@hub.freebsd.org> 

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> Daniel this is not the first time you've screwed the Alpha users with
> loader commits/upgrades.  Once was forgivable, twice is frankly quite
> unforgivable.  You have once again _wasted_ a significant amount of your
> fellow developer's time.

I will note that none of these fellow developers have actually stood up 
and participated when Daniel has called for help in testing these 
changes.  You persistently ignore things until they blow up, and then 
whine when they do, claiming that you've been blindsided.

This simply isn't appropriate.

> I want the backing of Core that NO FICL upgrades or major .4th changes

Core has nothing to do with this.  If you want the Alpha tested and 
supported like the other platforms, you need to make sure that the 
resources are available; whether this means doing it yourself, or helping 
Daniel get a machine set up, or finding a volunteer to help him out.

Please.  Less whining, and more thought behind constructive suggestions.

-- 
... every activity meets with opposition, everyone who acts has his
rivals and unfortunately opponents also.  But not because people want
to be opponents, rather because the tasks and relationships force
people to take different points of view.  [Dr. Fritz Todt]
           V I C T O R Y   N O T   V E N G E A N C E



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