From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Aug 14 18:36:28 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52BB53C5C83 for ; Fri, 14 Aug 2020 18:36:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: from kicp.uchicago.edu (kicp.uchicago.edu [128.135.20.70]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BSsbH36sHz4230 for ; Fri, 14 Aug 2020 18:36:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: from point.uchicago.edu (point.uchicago.edu [128.135.52.6]) (Authenticated sender: galtsev) by kicp.uchicago.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id BD1AF4E677 for ; Fri, 14 Aug 2020 13:36:21 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Re: Complete idiots guide to virtualize Android with bhyve To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <2FpLnblcS8dY17rDqJi-ACKQ4qXa5A6M7LZjQ2xv79zjqXLj9-jCTMZes_SU1glRZmJ8BtpIp5IJDT0dBNBq5fWf_6vBDexQ_UqivFWS7Hk=@dstev.xyz> <20200805091331.4b52af5c@archlinux> From: Valeri Galtsev Message-ID: <558de385-08de-935d-4bce-2ef8d19cd77b@kicp.uchicago.edu> Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2020 13:36:21 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.10.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4BSsbH36sHz4230 X-Spamd-Bar: / Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=fail reason="No valid SPF, No valid DKIM" header.from=uchicago.edu (policy=none); spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu has no SPF policy when checking 128.135.20.70) smtp.mailfrom=galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-0.47 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.35)[-0.350]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.30)[-0.300]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.08)[0.080]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[no SPF record]; RCVD_NO_TLS_LAST(0.10)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:160, ipnet:128.135.0.0/16, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; DMARC_POLICY_SOFTFAIL(0.10)[uchicago.edu : No valid SPF, No valid DKIM,none] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.33 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2020 18:36:28 -0000 On 2020-08-14 11:01, Andrea Venturoli wrote: > On 2020-08-05 09:13, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > >> it doesn't make sense to install an operating system that doesn't >> fit the users needs and then to emulate a mobile phone on that >> operating system, to run the required applications. That is the most >> worst mismanagement possible in the first place. > > Well, I think there are situation in which virtualizing Android does > make sense. > I need a desktop system 99% of the time, but I have an Android app (*) > that I'd need to run occasionally. > > (*) Not Zoom. It's an app that shouldn't probably exist in the first > place, but so it is. > > > > >> You are using an operating system not providing what you actually >> need, > > No, I'm using an operating system which gives me 99% of what I need. > > > >> so to workaround the wrong choice done in the first place, you >> consider to use a virtual machine, but not to run the most useful guest >> for your purpose, instead you consider to try the most freakish >> "solution". > > No again. > Really. > Unfortunately that app is available for Android and iOS, so it's not a > matter of "freak". > > > >> Why not running iOS or iPadOS as virtualbox guest? > > Licensing issues, I guess. > Is it possible to run those OSes freely? > You are absolutely correct. Apple allows to run their OSes on Apple hardware only. Period. Valeri > > > > > To come up with something costructive, I've never run Android on bhyve, > but I have on VirtualBox: performance is horrible, there are no guest > additions, but it works for an occasional use. > > > >  bye >     av. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Valeri Galtsev Sr System Administrator Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics University of Chicago Phone: 773-702-4247 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++