From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 4 01:59:35 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A5AAED57 for ; Sun, 4 Jan 2015 01:59:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.ssimicro.com (mail.ssimicro.com [64.247.129.10]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.ssimicro.com", Issuer "RapidSSL SHA256 CA - G3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5B1AB1710 for ; Sun, 4 Jan 2015 01:59:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from markhams-MacBook-Pro.local (rageous.ssimicro.com [64.247.134.72]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.ssimicro.com (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id t041xMGp010077 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 3 Jan 2015 18:59:26 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <54A89E7C.1030002@corp.ssimicro.com> Date: Sat, 03 Jan 2015 18:59:24 -0700 From: markham breitbach User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.9; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: bind domain and subdomain on same machines References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2015 01:59:35 -0000 By default named listens on all available interfaces, so a single instance of named should do what you need. If you need to run a second nameserver, you could set "listen-on { };" for each named.conf, but at that point I would probably consider running them in jails. You could also do something sneaky like hard-linking the zone files to ensure consistency. I'm really not too sure I understand what you are trying to achieve though. You don't need to split off the subdomain to a separate name server, and there usually is not much point in running two name servers on one host. -M On 2015-01-03 2:40 PM, helen ly wrote: > hi > can I configure Secondary DNS Server on same primary machine > I have virtual interfaces > i want to make as a domain(primary) and a subdomain(secondary) > can this be archievd only with one zone file for two(domain,subdomain) = and one named.conf.local > =20 > =20 > =20 > =20 > =20 > =20 > =20 > =20 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd= =2Eorg" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 4 03:10:13 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CDA06431 for ; Sun, 4 Jan 2015 03:10:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtprelay03.ispgateway.de (smtprelay03.ispgateway.de [80.67.31.30]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8DA2812BA for ; Sun, 4 Jan 2015 03:10:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [79.225.199.229] (helo=max2.muc.opensauce.de) by smtprelay03.ispgateway.de with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1Y7bZs-00022Z-EM; Sun, 04 Jan 2015 04:10:04 +0100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.3 \(1878.6\)) Subject: Re: TCSH completion patterns and the pkg command From: Stephen Riehm In-Reply-To: <54A8836D.1010805@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2015 04:10:04 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <0BD26196-094C-48A3-BAAE-80F753658EF3@opensauce.de> References: <54A85003.3000301@gmail.com> <20150103203734.5086dfd6.freebsd@edvax.de> <54A8836D.1010805@gmail.com> To: =?windows-1252?Q?Michael_Gr=FCnewald?= X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1878.6) X-Df-Sender: Mjg4MTc3 Cc: questions@freebsd.org, Polytropon X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2015 03:10:13 -0000 Hi guys, >> In my opinion, this is possible, but not easy. I'd say >> it's easier to teach the C shell the completition rules >> for the commands you want. Wise words :-) > I am not sure it easier to do so. If we consider the special > example of git: >=20 > * We have several possible sort of completion lists: > remotes, branch names, tags, and commit hashs =97 the latter > are commonly used for git commit --fixup et al. > * We have a lot of subcommands having many options whose names > sometimes collide and do not always use the same arguments > (e.g. git diff -b and git checkout -b). >=20 > It seems to me that it is very hard to propose pertinent > completions for git if we do not take the current subcommand > into account =97 but frankly, I did not try very hard. You're right that the " [options] [options] " style which has emerged in recent years is not what most completion systems were designed to cope with, and to be honest, you'd need a = database to handle all of the *valid* combinations in many cases... also, the = more the shell tries to complete, the more easily it can be confused. (e.g. git push 'v' git pull, "git p" is no longer enough, and even "git pu" needs extra correction - and once you've typed "pus" or "pul" completion doesn't help you any more either - it's still one more key-stroke) As is so often the case, you can try for perfect, or you can be happy with 'good enough' or even 'works for me' :-) In this case, grep through your history and see which commands and = options you use a lot and focus on them. I've been using some custom tcsh completions and scripts to help improve my git command line experience for a few years now,=20 (but not pkg etc.). Rather than just waving my hands in the air, I've = pulled them together and put them up on github for your perusal. If you're interested, you can find them at = https://github.com/cobber/git-tools Perhaps there's some ideas in there to help you put together something = for pkg. Cheers, Steve= From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 4 05:09:49 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 03626E68 for ; Sun, 4 Jan 2015 05:09:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "wonkity.com", Issuer "wonkity.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A840F3247 for ; Sun, 4 Jan 2015 05:09:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id t0459XPb039831 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Sat, 3 Jan 2015 22:09:33 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.9/8.14.9/Submit) with ESMTP id t0459WMS039828; Sat, 3 Jan 2015 22:09:32 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2015 22:09:32 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: =?ISO-8859-15?Q?Michael_Gr=FCnewald?= Subject: Re: TCSH completion patterns and the pkg command In-Reply-To: <54A8836D.1010805@gmail.com> Message-ID: References: <54A85003.3000301@gmail.com> <20150103203734.5086dfd6.freebsd@edvax.de> <54A8836D.1010805@gmail.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.11 (BSF 23 2013-08-11) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Sat, 03 Jan 2015 22:09:33 -0700 (MST) Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18-1 Cc: questions@freebsd.org, Polytropon X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2015 05:09:49 -0000 On Sun, 4 Jan 2015, Michael Grünewald wrote: > Polytropon wrote: >> The C shell is the system's _default_ interactive shell. >> This statement does not carry any judgmental statement. :-) > > I was not sure any more about this, so I went lazy and blurry. :) > >> In my opinion, this is possible, but not easy. I'd say >> it's easier to teach the C shell the completition rules >> for the commands you want. > > I am not sure it easier to do so. If we consider the special > example of git: > > * We have several possible sort of completion lists: > remotes, branch names, tags, and commit hashs ? the latter > are commonly used for git commit --fixup et al. > * We have a lot of subcommands having many options whose names > sometimes collide and do not always use the same arguments > (e.g. git diff -b and git checkout -b). > > It seems to me that it is very hard to propose pertinent > completions for git if we do not take the current subcommand > into account ? but frankly, I did not try very hard. Some completions here, including some moderate ones for pkg: http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/csh/completions From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 4 05:54:24 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A8BD24BF for ; Sun, 4 Jan 2015 05:54:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3CC8F6493E for ; Sun, 4 Jan 2015 05:54:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-85-165.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.85.165]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3888E3CD85; Sun, 4 Jan 2015 06:54:19 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id t045sJg7002009; Sun, 4 Jan 2015 06:54:19 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2015 06:54:19 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Warren Block Subject: Re: TCSH completion patterns and the pkg command Message-Id: <20150104065419.964edb45.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <54A85003.3000301@gmail.com> <20150103203734.5086dfd6.freebsd@edvax.de> <54A8836D.1010805@gmail.com> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Michael =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Gr=FCnewald?= , questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2015 05:54:24 -0000 On Sat, 3 Jan 2015 22:09:32 -0700 (MST), Warren Block wrote: > On Sun, 4 Jan 2015, Michael Gr=FCnewald wrote: >=20 > > Polytropon wrote: > >> The C shell is the system's _default_ interactive shell. > >> This statement does not carry any judgmental statement. :-) > > > > I was not sure any more about this, so I went lazy and blurry. :) > > > >> In my opinion, this is possible, but not easy. I'd say > >> it's easier to teach the C shell the completition rules > >> for the commands you want. > > > > I am not sure it easier to do so. If we consider the special > > example of git: > > > > * We have several possible sort of completion lists: > > remotes, branch names, tags, and commit hashs ? the latter > > are commonly used for git commit --fixup et al. > > * We have a lot of subcommands having many options whose names > > sometimes collide and do not always use the same arguments > > (e.g. git diff -b and git checkout -b). > > > > It seems to me that it is very hard to propose pertinent > > completions for git if we do not take the current subcommand > > into account ? but frankly, I did not try very hard. >=20 > Some completions here, including some moderate ones for pkg: > http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/csh/completions Your completition suggestion was the one I've been refering to. It's very nicely done, but of course it won't be possible to cope with all imaginable combinations of commands and subcommands and their specific options. Trying to have all all of them autocompleted, plus the many GNU long style options, would probably too much for a shell - and the main- tainer of the completition list to always keep it current and valid. :-) Anyway, your list (and the comment header explaining the syntax) is a good base to build on. In the special case of "git push" and "git pull" which are fully equivalent up to the 's' or 'l', it could be possible to alias them, where the alias is "earlier unambiguous", and then have that alias autocompleted. Here a combination of aliases and completition patterns could work more reliably than just completition. It is, however, debatable in how far this should be part of the OS preconfiguration. I'm happy about the C shell now having adopted a normal UNIX prompt, but I wouldn't assume that everyone on earth would be happy with my ls defaults as _his_ defaults: % grep -i ls /etc/csh.cshrc | less alias ls 'ls -FG -D "%Y-%m-%d %H:%M:%S"' alias ll 'ls -laFG -D "%Y-%m-%d %H:%M:%S"' setenv LSCOLORS ExGxdxdxCxDxDxBxBxege :-) --=20 Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 4 07:36:46 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B58B9C44 for ; Sun, 4 Jan 2015 07:36:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp-out12.han.skanova.net (smtp-out12.han.skanova.net [195.67.226.212]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 532941700 for ; Sun, 4 Jan 2015 07:36:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from Leslies-MacBook-Pro.local (194.237.176.105) by smtp-out12.han.skanova.net (8.5.142.07) id 5435BD3301278F60 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 4 Jan 2015 08:36:44 +0100 Message-ID: <54A8ED8C.8020404@eskk.nu> Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2015 08:36:44 +0100 From: Leslie Jensen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.10; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: pkg upgrade question Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2015 07:36:46 -0000 If I do portsnap fetch update pkg version -vIL= I'll get the result below for ports that needs to be upgraded Building new INDEX files... done. cups-client-1.7.3_2 < needs updating (index has 1.7.3_3) gnutls-3.2.19_1 < needs updating (index has 3.2.21) libgcrypt-1.6.1_5 < needs updating (index has 1.6.2) noip-2.1.9_2 < needs updating (index has 2.1.9_3) pkg-1.4.3 < needs updating (index has 1.4.4) squidview-0.80 < needs updating (index has 0.81) If I do pkg version I'll see the same packages marked with a < Then I do pkg upgrade Updating FreeBSD repository catalogue... FreeBSD repository is up-to-date. All repositories are up-to-date. Checking for upgrades (1 candidates): 100% Processing candidates (1 candidates): 100% Checking integrity... done (0 conflicting) Your packages are up to date. And it says that all packages are up to date! Is it because no packages are available for those ports at the moment? I'm a bit confused. Thanks /Leslie From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 4 07:50:19 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 99760D7D for ; Sun, 4 Jan 2015 07:50:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-pd0-x236.google.com (mail-pd0-x236.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c02::236]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 68C29297F for ; Sun, 4 Jan 2015 07:50:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-pd0-f182.google.com with SMTP id p10so26164541pdj.27 for ; Sat, 03 Jan 2015 23:50:18 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=VFUExfUt1gPy12RLvVqIGbIG7v4iQwj9YDO+A2afx/U=; b=rAQpx7yeomdsRjkSDentWEcfn1e4+wowgzyBU2+/FpXEEOEsFFBSB4PJKr4H9fw6fc lQbbZTA0HJos4m4ZtWvYR8UB68uiPCJwAGFXzwWLLbxMRkHgv/q6Cmt1T+NRmDCKJ5lA prV557l+W1YjNzPVXL7baPUuQzN1l59K+Y9HvbOysbQZfNY3YJKN029mJykHCJcVgxWY bv6BMR36hWASC7HnT4XAELAGpz6YwTXRPIBT4uizvcGdhQxzQhgLKGPRSwa9eOBtTo++ LKHG7jJ2H2feVa12r8s0FPaVRtA/9hm7ejy3mYCd9H8dT7+mkmt1u8YIV20IEiuoKYI4 HfJg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.68.134.3 with SMTP id pg3mr138416530pbb.84.1420357818777; Sat, 03 Jan 2015 23:50:18 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.70.90.203 with HTTP; Sat, 3 Jan 2015 23:50:18 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <54A8ED8C.8020404@eskk.nu> References: <54A8ED8C.8020404@eskk.nu> Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2015 08:50:18 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: pkg upgrade question From: Zsolt Udvari To: Leslie Jensen Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18-1 Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2015 07:50:19 -0000 The ports tree and the package repository aren't equal, the ports tree is the newer. The packages will build from ports tree on every Wednesday. If you run "pkg upgrade" it will check the package repository, the "pkg version" compares your installed versions and ports tree - this is the reason of difference. If you don't care about ports tree only the repository, please use "pkg version -R". Check "man pkg-version" for documentation :) Zsolt 2015-01-04 8:36 GMT+01:00 Leslie Jensen : > > If I do > > portsnap fetch update > pkg version -vIL= > > I'll get the result below for ports that needs to be upgraded > > Building new INDEX files... done. > cups-client-1.7.3_2 < needs updating (index has 1.7.3_3) > gnutls-3.2.19_1 < needs updating (index has 3.2.21) > libgcrypt-1.6.1_5 < needs updating (index has 1.6.2) > noip-2.1.9_2 < needs updating (index has 2.1.9_3) > pkg-1.4.3 < needs updating (index has 1.4.4) > squidview-0.80 < needs updating (index has 0.81) > > If I do > pkg version > > I'll see the same packages marked with a < > > Then I do > pkg upgrade > > > Updating FreeBSD repository catalogue... > FreeBSD repository is up-to-date. > All repositories are up-to-date. > Checking for upgrades (1 candidates): 100% > Processing candidates (1 candidates): 100% > Checking integrity... done (0 conflicting) > Your packages are up to date. > > And it says that all packages are up to date! > > Is it because no packages are available for those ports at the moment? > > I'm a bit confused. > > Thanks > > /Leslie > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions- > unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 4 08:01:02 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D05B9EB8 for ; Sun, 4 Jan 2015 08:01:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp-out12.han.skanova.net (smtp-out12.han.skanova.net [195.67.226.212]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A95A2BAC for ; Sun, 4 Jan 2015 08:01:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from Leslies-MacBook-Pro.local (194.237.176.105) by smtp-out12.han.skanova.net (8.5.142.07) id 5435BD33012795F3; Sun, 4 Jan 2015 09:00:59 +0100 Message-ID: <54A8F33B.8030506@eskk.nu> Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2015 09:00:59 +0100 From: Leslie Jensen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.10; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Zsolt Udvari Subject: Re: pkg upgrade question References: <54A8ED8C.8020404@eskk.nu> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2015 08:01:02 -0000 Zsolt Udvari skrev 2015-01-04 08:50: > The ports tree and the package repository aren't equal, the ports tree is > the newer. The packages will build from ports tree on every Wednesday. > > If you run "pkg upgrade" it will check the package repository, the "pkg > version" compares your installed versions and ports tree - this is the > reason of difference. > If you don't care about ports tree only the repository, please use "pkg > version -R". Check "man pkg-version" for documentation :) > > Zsolt > > > 2015-01-04 8:36 GMT+01:00 Leslie Jensen : > >> If I do >> >> portsnap fetch update >> pkg version -vIL= >> >> I'll get the result below for ports that needs to be upgraded >> >> Building new INDEX files... done. >> cups-client-1.7.3_2 < needs updating (index has 1.7.3_3) >> gnutls-3.2.19_1 < needs updating (index has 3.2.21) >> libgcrypt-1.6.1_5 < needs updating (index has 1.6.2) >> noip-2.1.9_2 < needs updating (index has 2.1.9_3) >> pkg-1.4.3 < needs updating (index has 1.4.4) >> squidview-0.80 < needs updating (index has 0.81) >> >> If I do >> pkg version >> >> I'll see the same packages marked with a < >> >> Then I do >> pkg upgrade >> >> >> Updating FreeBSD repository catalogue... >> FreeBSD repository is up-to-date. >> All repositories are up-to-date. >> Checking for upgrades (1 candidates): 100% >> Processing candidates (1 candidates): 100% >> Checking integrity... done (0 conflicting) >> Your packages are up to date. >> >> And it says that all packages are up to date! >> >> Is it because no packages are available for those ports at the moment? >> >> I'm a bit confused. >> >> Thanks >> >> /Leslie >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions- >> unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" Thank you very much for clarifying :-) /Leslie From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 4 11:36:29 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4D0EADE0 for ; Sun, 4 Jan 2015 11:36:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from avasout07.plus.net (avasout07.plus.net [84.93.230.235]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "Bizanga Labs SMTP Client Certificate", Issuer "Bizanga Labs CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CE2B536E5 for ; Sun, 4 Jan 2015 11:36:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from curlew.milibyte.co.uk ([84.92.153.232]) by avasout07 with smtp id bncH1p004516WCc01ncJa4; Sun, 04 Jan 2015 11:36:20 +0000 X-CM-Score: 0.00 X-CNFS-Analysis: v=2.1 cv=T7ICTp6Q c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=lfSX4pPLp9EkufIcToJk/A==:117 a=lfSX4pPLp9EkufIcToJk/A==:17 a=D7rCoLxHAAAA:8 a=0Bzu9jTXAAAA:8 a=cYTjFNdXV1EA:10 a=YNv0rlydsVwA:10 a=r77TgQKjGQsHNAKrUKIA:9 a=9iDbn-4jx3cA:10 a=cKsnjEOsciEA:10 a=gZbpxnkM3yUA:10 a=6I5d2MoRAAAA:8 a=tJa2htEO8CC4ZWrgjWcA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=pQwrMmy2vHIA:10 a=tUSzFODZPqcA:10 a=gWmOFBW1Y4AA:10 a=J_x5q8_hs_aYxOwebjcA:9 a=yA-dOUzFY9CLK4al:21 a=J6dxw5TVKwKILgaQ:21 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 Received: from curlew.lan ([192.168.1.13]) by curlew.milibyte.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1Y7jTj-0001D3-T9; Sun, 04 Jan 2015 11:36:17 +0000 From: Mike Clarke To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2015 11:16:52 +0000 Message-ID: <3260976.9592SAMzda@curlew.lan> User-Agent: KMail/4.14.2 (FreeBSD/10.1-RELEASE; KDE/4.14.2; amd64; ; ) In-Reply-To: References: <54A8ED8C.8020404@eskk.nu> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 192.168.1.13 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on curlew.lan X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Subject: Re: pkg upgrade question Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="nextPart3692520.cOyImHYnJC" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on curlew.milibyte.co.uk) Cc: Leslie Jensen X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2015 11:36:29 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --nextPart3692520.cOyImHYnJC Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" On Sunday 04 Jan 2015 08:50:18 Zsolt Udvari wrote: > If you don't care about ports tree only the repository, please use > "pkg version -R". Check "man pkg-version" for documentation Alternatively you can use svn or svnlite to synchronise your ports tree with the snapshot which was used for the packages currently in the repository. This is an advantage if you build some packages from ports since it ensures you don't get any dependency conflicts. This was recently discussed in a thread in ports@ . A script for synchronising the ports tree for poudriere was posted in . I don't use poudriere so I've modified a copy of the script to synchronise /usr/ports instead of the poudriere jails. The script works for 64 bit 10.x-RELEASE. For 8.x or 9,x you'll need to change the value of JAIL. If you're using 32 bit I think you'll need to change SERVER to beefy1.isc.freebsd.org as well as changing JAIL but there appears to be a problem with the website at the moment so I can't check. -- Mike Clarke --nextPart3692520.cOyImHYnJC Content-Disposition: inline; filename="portsync" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; name="portsync" #!/bin/sh # Copyright (c) 2014 Reed A. Cartwright # # Modified by Mike Clarke to use /usr/ports instead of poudriere # # This script determines the revision number used to build FreeBSD packages # and syncs a local ports directory to match it. # # USAGE: portsync # # REQUIREMENTS: textproc/jq SERVER=beefy2.isc.freebsd.org JAIL=10amd64-default URL="http://${SERVER}/data/${JAIL}/.data.json" PATH=/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin PORTSDIR=/usr/ports # Fetch data from server JSON=`fetch -qo - $URL` if [ $? -gt 0 ]; then >&2 echo "ERROR: Unable to fetch data from package server." exit 1 fi # Parse Revision information from server REV=`echo "${JSON}" | jq -r '.builds[.builds.latest].svn_url | split("@")[1]'` # Check revision information if expr "$REV" : '^[[:digit:]][[:digit:]]*$' >/dev/null; then # Skip update if revisions are in sync CURREV=`svnlite info "${PORTSDIR}" | sed -ne '/^Revision: /s/^Revision: //p'` echo "====>> Updating ${PORTSDIR} from revision ${CURREV} to ${REV}" if [ "${CURREV}" -ne "${REV}" ]; then svnlite up -r "${REV}" "${PORTSDIR}" else echo No update needed fi else >& echo "ERROR: Unable to determine revision number for latest packages." exit 1 fi --nextPart3692520.cOyImHYnJC-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 4 12:40:56 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BA3C6CAE for ; Sun, 4 Jan 2015 12:40:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wi0-x232.google.com (mail-wi0-x232.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c05::232]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 478601240 for ; Sun, 4 Jan 2015 12:40:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wi0-f178.google.com with SMTP id em10so1730273wid.11 for ; Sun, 04 Jan 2015 04:40:54 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=J9QZ3A1dH+TxpKJugYfgyKXxCSmKA0PRe/+O6Mx+8g4=; b=hW0jWe1R+Wnyg/s5/4h3AGfRhufNywX6PsWkY5SUoE4y9/J0Yx/9U1yh++MXtlPhHw uv89B4+q+1ay1lEdJCuMK6BnbYeS8EHqaZxmTfZv0+0YLuWwyk3nH5dDs4Of0FX2jRCJ 5KPmukhSlCxcjNERtqnnPhOH15t/r69CfAyeRGT5iPb7enYWcvudksNntCt4dq5Na/3E 5yW8+Hzpew65YZdY+CbJ1J65QmAj8ECfHMofqFaLyq/APdiOE1kwNLo77e71deO5/etU jLzJr+0c9K/0sDR73FzOI2Ek0nKZiaYE52WhJBjEnh1nqy6TCwgAy9NkafTKIniOHqa2 mZVw== X-Received: by 10.180.103.201 with SMTP id fy9mr15753088wib.31.1420375254746; Sun, 04 Jan 2015 04:40:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.0.63] (xdsl-89-0-134-33.netcologne.de. [89.0.134.33]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id fx6sm71394652wjc.39.2015.01.04.04.40.53 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 04 Jan 2015 04:40:53 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <54A942DE.9060203@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2015 14:40:46 +0100 From: Michael User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:34.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/34.0 SeaMonkey/2.31 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Warren Block Subject: Re: TCSH completion patterns and the pkg command References: <54A85003.3000301@gmail.com> <20150103203734.5086dfd6.freebsd@edvax.de> <54A8836D.1010805@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: questions@freebsd.org, Polytropon X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2015 12:40:56 -0000 Warren Block wrote: > Some completions here, including some moderate ones for pkg: > http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/csh/completions Hi Warren, your completions look very interesting! Do you mind if I include and rework them with due credit in https://github.com/michipili/tcshfiles It is distributed under CECILL-B, a BSD-style license. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 4 14:33:13 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A7E74BB3 for ; Sun, 4 Jan 2015 14:33:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp546-45.vip.sina.com.cn (r3-67.sinamail.sina.com.cn [202.108.3.67]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2AFE3242E for ; Sun, 4 Jan 2015 14:33:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from unknown( HELO agent02.agent.vmail.yz.sinanode.com)([172.16.53.128]) by vip.sina.com with SMTP 4 Jan 2015 22:33:03 +0800 (CST) X-Sender: jzsf+==znjlzwjzzc1xdwvzdglvbnnaznjlzwjzzc5vcmc===@vip.sina.com X-SMAIL-MID: 6447817691300 Received: by agent02.agent.vmail.yz.sinanode.com (Postfix, from userid 99) id 4E069489BE7; Sun, 4 Jan 2015 22:33:04 +0800 (CST) Auther: VipMail_1.0 (REM) From: To: Subject: =?utf-8?B?6Ieq5Yqo5Zue5aSN77yaZW11bGF0ZSBhIFhvcmcgY29uZmlndXJhdGlvbiBvZiBHTlUvTGludXggKEZlZG9yYSAyMSkgb24gRnJlZUJTRA==?= Sender: jzsf+==ZnJlZWJzZC1xdWVzdGlvbnNAZnJlZWJzZC5vcmc===@vip.sina.com MIME_version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: base64 Message-Id: <20150104143304.4E069489BE7@agent02.agent.vmail.yz.sinanode.com> Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2015 22:33:04 +0800 (CST) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2015 14:33:13 -0000 5bey5pS25Yiw5oKo55qE5p2l5L+h77yBDQogICAgICAgICDosKLosKLvvIENCiAgICAgICAgICAg ICDojYblt57nm5vlj5E= From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 4 14:35:53 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E8893C95 for ; Sun, 4 Jan 2015 14:35:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A71D22465 for ; Sun, 4 Jan 2015 14:35:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-85-165.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.85.165]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 330A93CE87; Sun, 4 Jan 2015 15:35:50 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id t04EZnVp002302; Sun, 4 Jan 2015 15:35:49 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2015 15:35:49 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Xavier Freebsd Questio Subject: Re: emulate a Xorg configuration of GNU/Linux (Fedora 21) on FreeBSD Message-Id: <20150104153549.70c269ae.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <8D1F641A1D2B4CB-15D0-A6C2@webmail-vm170.sysops.aol.com> References: <8D1F641A1D2B4CB-15D0-A6C2@webmail-vm170.sysops.aol.com> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Xavier Freebsd Questio via freebsd-questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2015 14:35:54 -0000 On Sun, 4 Jan 2015 09:26:58 -0500, Xavier Freebsd Questio via freebsd-questions wrote: > I have a laptop with an Intel graphics card, but in FreeBSD, I can't > get the image in the VGA external output port. > [...] > Do you have any idea about this topic? Any comments? Is this a laptop which still has keys on the keyboard for selecting the output (internal / internal+external / external), usually a key combination of "Fn" and a function key? If you haven't yet: Try those. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 4 15:14:07 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 66BF9121 for ; Sun, 4 Jan 2015 15:14:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fly.hiwaay.net (fly.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3463264924 for ; Sun, 4 Jan 2015 15:14:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from kabini1.local (rbn1-216-180-76-218.adsl.hiwaay.net [216.180.76.218]) (authenticated bits=0) by fly.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/fly) with ESMTP id t04F7TKI002808 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Sun, 4 Jan 2015 09:07:29 -0600 Message-ID: <54A958A7.20202@hiwaay.net> Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2015 09:13:43 -0600 From: "William A. Mahaffey III" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: pkg upgrade question References: <54A8ED8C.8020404@eskk.nu> In-Reply-To: <54A8ED8C.8020404@eskk.nu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2015 15:14:07 -0000 On 01/04/15 01:36, Leslie Jensen wrote: > > If I do > > portsnap fetch update > pkg version -vIL= > > I'll get the result below for ports that needs to be upgraded > > Building new INDEX files... done. > cups-client-1.7.3_2 < needs updating (index has 1.7.3_3) > gnutls-3.2.19_1 < needs updating (index has 3.2.21) > libgcrypt-1.6.1_5 < needs updating (index has 1.6.2) > noip-2.1.9_2 < needs updating (index has 2.1.9_3) > pkg-1.4.3 < needs updating (index has 1.4.4) > squidview-0.80 < needs updating (index has 0.81) > > If I do > pkg version > > I'll see the same packages marked with a < > > Then I do > pkg upgrade > > > Updating FreeBSD repository catalogue... > FreeBSD repository is up-to-date. > All repositories are up-to-date. > Checking for upgrades (1 candidates): 100% > Processing candidates (1 candidates): 100% > Checking integrity... done (0 conflicting) > Your packages are up to date. > > And it says that all packages are up to date! > > Is it because no packages are available for those ports at the moment? > > I'm a bit confused. > > Thanks > > /Leslie > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > I have noticed similar behavior. I have also noticed that if you do the 'pkg version -vIL= ' *before* any portsnap or portmaster, it works as expected. I usually do just that, any package upgrades, followed by a portsnap to refresh the ports. I *only* use pkg by default for my package maintenance, however I do have flash support on board for Opera & Firefox, which necessitates some ports upgrades as well (flash support is *only* available as a port, not a pkg). I am on FreeBSD 9.3-RELEASE-p5, BTW, w/ all packages upgraded last week. HTH & happy new year .... -- William A. Mahaffey III ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war ever devised by man." -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 4 15:18:35 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3DF551E4 for ; Sun, 4 Jan 2015 15:18:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "wonkity.com", Issuer "wonkity.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0791364982 for ; Sun, 4 Jan 2015 15:18:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id t04FITbo089039 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 4 Jan 2015 08:18:29 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.9/8.14.9/Submit) with ESMTP id t04FIStb089036; Sun, 4 Jan 2015 08:18:28 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2015 08:18:28 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: Polytropon Subject: Re: TCSH completion patterns and the pkg command In-Reply-To: <20150104065419.964edb45.freebsd@edvax.de> Message-ID: References: <54A85003.3000301@gmail.com> <20150103203734.5086dfd6.freebsd@edvax.de> <54A8836D.1010805@gmail.com> <20150104065419.964edb45.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Alpine 2.11 (BSF 23 2013-08-11) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Sun, 04 Jan 2015 08:18:29 -0700 (MST) Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18-1 Cc: =?ISO-8859-15?Q?Michael_Gr=FCnewald?= , questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2015 15:18:35 -0000 On Sun, 4 Jan 2015, Polytropon wrote: > On Sat, 3 Jan 2015 22:09:32 -0700 (MST), Warren Block wrote: >> On Sun, 4 Jan 2015, Michael Grünewald wrote: >>> >>> It seems to me that it is very hard to propose pertinent >>> completions for git if we do not take the current subcommand >>> into account ? but frankly, I did not try very hard. >> >> Some completions here, including some moderate ones for pkg: >> http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/csh/completions > > Your completition suggestion was the one I've been > refering to. It's very nicely done, but of course > it won't be possible to cope with all imaginable > combinations of commands and subcommands and their > specific options. Trying to have all all of them > autocompleted, plus the many GNU long style options, > would probably too much for a shell - and the main- > tainer of the completition list to always keep it > current and valid. :-) Yes, and the csh completion syntax is challenging for complex commands. An external program can be run to provide completions, and that's probably the way to go for the really complex ones. I've avoided that so far, but complex commands with subcommands like git, pkg, zfs, and svn might be easier, clearer, or more maintainable to do that way. > It is, however, debatable in how far this should be > part of the OS preconfiguration. I'm happy about the > C shell now having adopted a normal UNIX prompt, but > I wouldn't assume that everyone on earth would be > happy with my ls defaults as _his_ defaults: > > % grep -i ls /etc/csh.cshrc | less > alias ls 'ls -FG -D "%Y-%m-%d %H:%M:%S"' > alias ll 'ls -laFG -D "%Y-%m-%d %H:%M:%S"' > setenv LSCOLORS ExGxdxdxCxDxDxBxBxege Completions are not really the same kind of problem, or at least they don't differ because people use the same programs. I think of them as a sort of built-in help for input, helping to make legitimate choices rather than what I might remember. And I would like to see a much larger default set of autocompletions. They make so many commands easier to use. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 4 15:40:41 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 53F3262E for ; Sun, 4 Jan 2015 15:40:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "wonkity.com", Issuer "wonkity.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0824764C30 for ; Sun, 4 Jan 2015 15:40:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id t04FeZMF094401 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 4 Jan 2015 08:40:36 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.9/8.14.9/Submit) with ESMTP id t04FeZ8K094398; Sun, 4 Jan 2015 08:40:35 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2015 08:40:35 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: Michael Subject: Re: TCSH completion patterns and the pkg command In-Reply-To: <54A942DE.9060203@gmail.com> Message-ID: References: <54A85003.3000301@gmail.com> <20150103203734.5086dfd6.freebsd@edvax.de> <54A8836D.1010805@gmail.com> <54A942DE.9060203@gmail.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.11 (BSF 23 2013-08-11) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Sun, 04 Jan 2015 08:40:36 -0700 (MST) Cc: questions@freebsd.org, Polytropon X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2015 15:40:41 -0000 On Sun, 4 Jan 2015, Michael wrote: > Warren Block wrote: >> Some completions here, including some moderate ones for pkg: >> http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/csh/completions > > Hi Warren, your completions look very interesting! Do you mind if I > include and rework them with due credit in > > https://github.com/michipili/tcshfiles > > It is distributed under CECILL-B, a BSD-style license. Sure, my list is a collection anyway. Many were collected from csh/tcsh examples and online sources, some I wrote by myself, and some were collaborations. The original "make" completion that showed all available targets was created with help from forum members. Then make(1) changed, and the new one made it much simpler. Incidentally, the completion for "make -V ", which should complete with all available make variables, does not yet work. The sharp-eyed will see a completion for kldreload, which does not exist in the wild but is an alias: alias kldreload 'kldunload \!* && sleep 0.1 && kldload \!*' (Used mostly for reloading the VirtualBox kernel module after a rebuild.) Some of these are integrated into /usr/share/examples/csh/dot.cshrc. There are more completions in /usr/share/examples/tcsh/complete.tcsh, too. 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Sun, 4 Jan 2015 16:46:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 34849143F for ; Sun, 4 Jan 2015 16:46:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Y7oJr-0000dq-9l for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 04 Jan 2015 17:46:23 +0100 Received: from p5b022d7c.dip0.t-ipconnect.de ([91.2.45.124]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 04 Jan 2015 17:46:23 +0100 Received: from christian.baer by p5b022d7c.dip0.t-ipconnect.de with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 04 Jan 2015 17:46:23 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Christian Baer Subject: FreeBSD multiboot / was: FreeBSD with Win7 and UEFI Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2015 17:46:09 +0100 Organization: Back Yard Shed Club Lines: 43 Message-ID: <5509024.BRbmVfsGaV@falbala.rz1.convenimus.net> References: <20141226072950.GB13694@kontrol.kode5.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: p5b022d7c.dip0.t-ipconnect.de User-Agent: KNode/4.14.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2015 16:46:27 -0000 Warren Block wrote: >> This sentence actually rather suggests that you have not read my post >> (properly) before answering. > Your boot menu pointed out that FreeBSD was EFI and did not do that for > Windows. Also, Windows 7 UEFI installs are rare. Actually, there is no Windows boot loader when you do not use UEFI. This is the same as the dedicated freebsd-boot partition needed for FreeBSD. The Mainboard just recognised Windows and thus displayed the name of the OS. It does not seem to recognise FreeBSD so it just displayed "EFI OS". > Some UEFI systems can attempt legacy BIOS booting and then UEFI, and it > appeared that Windows 7 was booting in BIOS mode while FreeBSD was > installed for UEFI. Well, be that as it may, it no longer makes a difference as I have reinstalled both Windows and FreeBSD - using BIOS this time, not EFI. The reason was actually my nvidia driver which locked the system on boot. I thought this was a problem with the boot loader but as it turned out is was because the Linux compat had changed from 10.0 RELASE to 10.1 RELEASE. I might have to write about that some other time because the problems I had with my nvidia driver were not really documented and I'm having a hard time assuming that I'm the only one who ran into trouble trying to get that driver to work. Back to the old problem... :-) This time, I installed Windows first and FreeBSD after that. I did not find any option during the installation of the latter to install/setup a boot loader that allows me to choose the OS I wish to use. The result is that the Computer now only boots FreeBSD - which is fine with me until I want to do some gaming. :-) I have not ever tried to install Grub on a FreeBSD system. In theory it should work fine. Or is there something else I can/should use? Note that this is a machine with two swap bays for HDDs and these are used frequently. I use labels in my fstab because the computer's idea which drive is 1st seems to change depending on whether there is a drive in the bay or not. Best regards, Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 4 17:02:49 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C2D854C7 for ; Sun, 4 Jan 2015 17:02:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6C19B26E8 for ; Sun, 4 Jan 2015 17:02:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-85-165.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.85.165]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4C50327810; Sun, 4 Jan 2015 18:02:40 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id t04H2eUu002809; Sun, 4 Jan 2015 18:02:40 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2015 18:02:40 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Xavier Freebsd Questio Subject: Re: emulate a Xorg configuration of GNU/Linux (Fedora 21) on FreeBSD Message-Id: <20150104180240.6c6cf30b.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <8D1F6518B6F7572-15D0-ABA6@webmail-vm170.sysops.aol.com> References: <8D1F641A1D2B4CB-15D0-A6C2@webmail-vm170.sysops.aol.com> <20150104153549.70c269ae.freebsd@edvax.de> <8D1F6518B6F7572-15D0-ABA6@webmail-vm170.sysops.aol.com> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Xavier Freebsd Questio via freebsd-questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2015 17:02:49 -0000 On Sun, 4 Jan 2015 11:20:52 -0500, Xavier Freebsd Questio via freebsd-questions wrote: > I have this keyboard: > > http://tinyurl.com/ltjj2a2 This one? http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-XJlzFI79lWQ/VFHSMP0KOsI/AAAAAAAAJOc/dVyuwlnbcMs/s1600/ES1_3.jpg > Your refer to "Fn" F5 and F6 keys ? Correct. > I try it and don't get output for > VGA external connector when I plugin it in HDMI input connector of TV. Ah! That could be the problem! HDMI isn't capable of mapping _all_ imaginable DVI (or VGA) outputs generated by a computer. This usually shows that you can use a TV as a computer monitor in many cases, but not in all cases. This might be such a case. A common problem seems to be that HDMI probably doesn't transmit the DDC information properly, so the external screen isn't detected correctly, and therefore all the autodetect magic fails. Another problem could be that those keys don't work, or to be precise: They require a proprietary driver to work, which means that their function is not "in the laptop", but "in the vendor-supplied software", which is bad. > My actual /etc/X11/xorg.conf is: > > http://pastebin.com/ji5QgvE6 The significant parts are: Section "Device" Identifier "Card1" Driver "vesa" BusID "PCI:0:2:0" EndSection Maybe you cannot use VESA together with the limited range of valid HDMI resolutions... > Any idea ? First, try to load X with the correct driver for the video "card" in your system. Then you can go ahead and fine-tune xorg.conf with the _actual_ configuration data of the TV screen: size (inches or centimeters), pixels (the _real_ number of them), DPI and so on. You can define the settings for the mode it supports. Probably you have to review the technical parameters in the manual. You could use the following sections as templates: # snippet from /etc/X11/xorg.conf Section "Monitor" Identifier "Monitor0" VendorName "Eizo" ModelName "FlexScan F980" HorizSync 30.0 - 137.0 VertRefresh 50.0 - 160.0 Option "DPMS" "false" DisplaySize 410 305 EndSection Section "Device" Identifier "Card0" Driver "nvidia" VendorName "nVidia Corporation" BoardName "G73 [GeForce 7600 GS]" BusID "PCI:2:0:0" Screen 0 Option "NvAGP" "3" Option "UseEdid" "FALSE" Option "UseEdidDpi" "FALSE" Option "DPI" "96 x 96" EndSection Section "Screen" Identifier "Screen0" Device "Card0" Monitor "Monitor0" DefaultDepth 24 SubSection "Display" Viewport 0 0 Depth 24 Visual "TrueColor" Modes "1400x1050" "1152x864" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" "320x240" EndSubSection EndSection # end of file snippet You can see some simplification here. Please note that this example is from my home computer which uses a CRT, so there is no "the one" screen size and no fixed DPI value. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 4 17:25:19 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 352316B3 for ; Sun, 4 Jan 2015 17:25:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E07E32B16 for ; Sun, 4 Jan 2015 17:25:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Y7ovU-0000sX-L3 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 04 Jan 2015 18:25:16 +0100 Received: from p5b022d7c.dip0.t-ipconnect.de ([91.2.45.124]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 04 Jan 2015 18:25:16 +0100 Received: from christian.baer by p5b022d7c.dip0.t-ipconnect.de with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 04 Jan 2015 18:25:16 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Christian Baer Subject: Re: FreeBSD with Win7 and UEFI Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2015 18:25:04 +0100 Organization: Back Yard Shed Club Lines: 85 Message-ID: <3064826.yDtrE01ODY@falbala.rz1.convenimus.net> References: <20141226072950.GB13694@kontrol.kode5.net> <20141231044849.ebf531c1.freebsd@edvax.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: p5b022d7c.dip0.t-ipconnect.de User-Agent: KNode/4.14.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2015 17:25:19 -0000 Polytropon wrote: >> Yes, I've read about that and the fact that it has been quite hard. This >> actually did surprise me a bit, considering that UEFI has been around >> for a while now. > > AS/400 is around since the 1980's, and still I can't find > a Linux or BSD that will run on it. ;-) There is no support for VAX either and that has been around even longer. :-P In Germany we'd say, this comparison is limping, because although quite entertaining, it doesn't quite get the essence of the problem. Meaning: While FreeBSD does not target AS/400, VAX or any PDP (just to get really ancient here :-)) architecture, it is aimed at modern PCs like AMD64, Intel- i or in my case Intel XEON based. Supporting UEFI is therefore a necessity since BIOS will probably die out sooner or later. Relax, I don't want to argue this through now and I understand your comment was meant as a joke. I just wanted to point out that UEFI is something we are going to have to deal with, whether we like it or not. > The problem with UEFI seems to be that, even though there > is documentation and attempts of standards, it's still a > tricky black box, and manufacturers don't want to tell what > goes on in their "micro OS" BIOS replacement. The usual problem of missing specs and documentation. I think this problem has been around since the rise of open source software and probably before that. OS/2 suffered from missing hardware support for similar reasons. I'm not sure when this arose though. I remember the documentation of my Epson EX-800 was rather lousy (as in noone really wanted to write that document and the result was what the customer go anyway), but it was enough for me to write a well working driver for my C=64. There was software around that could make the printer work (like PrintFox or PageFox), but what was missing was something that printed out pictures or graphics in colour. So I sat down and wrote something that worked. :-) When did the manufacturers start making a secret of everything? > Using the traditional FreeBSD boot manager would surely > be the more appealing option. Depending on if you can try > to use MBR partitioning instead of GPT (and therefore, > using the boot0 boot manager with MBR), this might be > worth a try. UEFI seemed to support both MBR and GPT. > But this is just a W.A.G., I don't have any UEFI hardware > here to verify, and I'm not a "multi-booter" anymrore, > sorry. Relax! I appreciate any help or ideas I get here. I don't expect you to try them out for me. Is boot0 the prefered way to go? Or are there other tools I should take a look at? At work I sit at a Linux machine and really don't miss Windows at all. The only time when I think Windows could do something better is when I try to do something non-standard. Those things usually work pretty easily under Windows. Example: I have never run into trouble installing the driver for my graphics board under Windows. Under FreeBSD? Different story. As it seems the Linux compat changed and now the driver won't compile because the required Linux compat is missing. Taking the Linux support out of the options when compiling lets it compile and be installed, but it won't load just the same. When I figured out what the problem was, I deinstalled the driver and reinstalled it via pkg install, which also installed the required Linux libs. I am expecting to run into trouble with that in the near future because the UPDATING files say I should only use the new versions. I will be spending most of my time under FreeBSD anyway. For gaming however, I have to boot Windows. :-) > This is the typical limitation by UEFI. If you can use > FreeBSD's boot manager, a default will be available which > will boot the desired FreeBSD if no action is taken at > system startup. But as far as I understand, this will > require MBR partitioning in combination with UEFI... I hope this also works for the combo BIOS/MBR. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 4 17:46:44 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DC3FAC0A for ; Sun, 4 Jan 2015 17:46:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp207.alice.it (smtp207.alice.it [82.57.200.103]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FAA22E89 for ; Sun, 4 Jan 2015 17:46:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from soth.ventu (80.181.51.90) by smtp207.alice.it (8.6.060.28) (authenticated as acanedi@alice.it) id 547D8BAA05A55A7F for questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 4 Jan 2015 18:40:53 +0100 Received: from alamar.ventu (alamar.ventu [10.1.2.18]) by soth.ventu (8.15.1/8.14.7) with ESMTP id t04HejKs037044 for ; Sun, 4 Jan 2015 18:40:45 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Message-ID: <54A97B1B.2080808@netfence.it> Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2015 18:40:43 +0100 From: Andrea Venturoli User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD i386; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Blu ray Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2015 17:46:44 -0000 Hello. I know the question has come up several times, but things change... Are Blu Ray recorders supported? Especially internal SATA ones? Could I buy one just for backup purposes, i.e. preparing a 25-50 GB ISO and writing it? What would be the maximum file size? Should I use cdrecord? groisofs? Anything else? Is 9.3 enough? Any improvement in 10.1? bye & Thanks av. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 4 17:49:15 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9F03BCAF for ; Sun, 4 Jan 2015 17:49:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.monochrome.org (e.febed1.client.atlantech.net [209.190.254.14]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mail", Issuer "mail" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 412292EB0 for ; Sun, 4 Jan 2015 17:49:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.11] (tripel [192.168.1.11]) by mail.monochrome.org (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id t04HKseA068429 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 4 Jan 2015 12:20:54 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from chris@monochrome.org) Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2015 12:21:43 -0500 (EST) From: Chris Hill To: Polytropon Subject: Re: emulate a Xorg configuration of GNU/Linux (Fedora 21) on FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <20150104180240.6c6cf30b.freebsd@edvax.de> Message-ID: References: <8D1F641A1D2B4CB-15D0-A6C2@webmail-vm170.sysops.aol.com> <20150104153549.70c269ae.freebsd@edvax.de> <8D1F6518B6F7572-15D0-ABA6@webmail-vm170.sysops.aol.com> <20150104180240.6c6cf30b.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Xavier Freebsd Questio , Xavier Freebsd Questio via freebsd-questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2015 17:49:15 -0000 On Sun, 4 Jan 2015, Polytropon wrote: > On Sun, 4 Jan 2015 11:20:52 -0500, Xavier Freebsd Questio via freebsd-questions wrote: [ snip ] >> I try it and don't get output for >> VGA external connector when I plugin it in HDMI input connector of TV. > > Ah! That could be the problem! I'll bet money that IS the problem. The solution is to use a display that supports the signal the laptop puts out - apparently VGA in this case. Failing that, use a laptop that puts out a signal format your display can accommodate - apparently HDMI in this case (but you could also use Display Port with a connector adaptor). > HDMI isn't capable of mapping _all_ imaginable DVI (or VGA) > outputs generated by a computer. This usually shows that you > can use a TV as a computer monitor in many cases, but not > in all cases. In this particular case - a device with VGA output feeding a display with HDMI input - I would not expect it ever to work. The VGA connector only carries anaolog video. HDMI only carries digital. I'm guessing that the OP is using a VGA to DVI-I adaptor cable, followed by a DVI-I to HDMI adaptor cable; this is the only setup I can think of that would even allow things to be plugged in. But as we've seen in past examples, having a plug that fits is necessary but not sufficient. Once that's resolved, then we can think about EDID and modes and so forth. [ snip ] -- Chris Hill chris@monochrome.org ** [ Busy Expunging ] From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 4 18:00:03 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 907FB395 for ; Sun, 4 Jan 2015 18:00:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 229AF3083 for ; Sun, 4 Jan 2015 18:00:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-85-165.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.85.165]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 07254276DD; Sun, 4 Jan 2015 19:00:00 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id t04I00iC002947; Sun, 4 Jan 2015 19:00:00 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2015 19:00:00 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Christian Baer Subject: Re: FreeBSD with Win7 and UEFI Message-Id: <20150104190000.c2cb035e.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <3064826.yDtrE01ODY@falbala.rz1.convenimus.net> References: <20141226072950.GB13694@kontrol.kode5.net> <20141231044849.ebf531c1.freebsd@edvax.de> <3064826.yDtrE01ODY@falbala.rz1.convenimus.net> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2015 18:00:03 -0000 On Sun, 04 Jan 2015 18:25:04 +0100, Christian Baer wrote: > Polytropon wrote: > > >> Yes, I've read about that and the fact that it has been quite hard. This > >> actually did surprise me a bit, considering that UEFI has been around > >> for a while now. > > > > AS/400 is around since the 1980's, and still I can't find > > a Linux or BSD that will run on it. ;-) > > There is no support for VAX either and that has been around even longer. :-P There's SimH and FreeVMS, that should be enough for everyone. And IBM /360 is around even _much_ longer, and still... oh wait, I can run Linux on /z now! :-) > In Germany we'd say, this comparison is limping, because although quite > entertaining, it doesn't quite get the essence of the problem. Meaning: > While FreeBSD does not target AS/400, VAX or any PDP (just to get really > ancient here :-)) architecture, it is aimed at modern PCs like AMD64, Intel- > i or in my case Intel XEON based. Supporting UEFI is therefore a necessity > since BIOS will probably die out sooner or later. I truly understand that problem, and I'm curious about upcoming solutions when UEFI starts getting all messed up and incompatible. Remember that in most cases, when some technology has been fully supported, it was quickly obsoleted by something different, and this applies for hardware, firmware, and sofware (think of APM, HAL, and so on). > Relax, I don't want to argue this through now and I understand your comment > was meant as a joke. I just wanted to point out that UEFI is something we > are going to have to deal with, whether we like it or not. I fully agree. In order to stay relevant, this will have to be supported. I also think that adding FreeBSD support for ARM is a move into the right direction. Just as a sidenote: http://www.alexrad.me/discourse/why-rosyna-cant-take-a-movie-screenshot.html It's worth having options so this doesn't happen to FreeBSD users. > The usual problem of missing specs and documentation. I think this problem > has been around since the rise of open source software and probably before > that. OS/2 suffered from missing hardware support for similar reasons. IBM could have open-sourced OS/2 and _maybe_ had a chance for a revival, but they missed that too. And: eComStation isn't much more than OS/2 on artificial life support... :-) > I'm not sure when this arose though. I remember the documentation of my > Epson EX-800 was rather lousy (as in noone really wanted to write that > document and the result was what the customer go anyway), but it was enough > for me to write a well working driver for my C=64. In the past, documentation was an essential part of most computer products. Especially for peri- pherial devices such as printers or modems, it was much more than a "set-up cheat sheet". Even today I'm happy to have them _as paper_ for the few occassions I have to write custom software for very special printers, dealing with much more special kinds of documents. Being able to know how to make the printer do what I want is a requirement, solved by good documentation. Providing documentation was a valid selling point. Today you'd probably say: There's the Internet, all the stuff is on the web! But especially the low-level stuff is considered a trade secret, not something developers (or users) should have access to. > When did the manufacturers start making a secret of everything? Since it paid, because people stopped caring. Keep in mind that creating documentation adds costs to the final product, and whenever 1/2 cent can be spared, it will, especially when you omit something that "nobody ever" is interested in. > Is boot0 the prefered way to go? Or are there other tools I should take a > look at? Yes, I'd say so. See "man boot0cfg" and also have a look at "man gpart" on how to install it (except you want to use fdisk, which should still work). > At work I sit at a Linux machine and really don't miss Windows at all. The > only time when I think Windows could do something better is when I try to do > something non-standard. Those things usually work pretty easily under > Windows. This is where you can see the tight cooperation of the manufacturers of hardware and software with the MICROS~1 corporation. The newer something is, the better it tends to work. But don't try to use working hardware that's now considered "too old"... ;-) > I will be spending most of my time under FreeBSD anyway. For gaming however, > I have to boot Windows. :-) This is a situation which will also change in the future, as several game makers have already been expressing their frustration about today's "Windows" versions. There seems to be a (slow!) shift towards Linux as a gaming platform. It's probably to early to say that it's a "1st class citizen", but maybe this will happen when there's enough money in it. > > This is the typical limitation by UEFI. If you can use > > FreeBSD's boot manager, a default will be available which > > will boot the desired FreeBSD if no action is taken at > > system startup. But as far as I understand, this will > > require MBR partitioning in combination with UEFI... > > I hope this also works for the combo BIOS/MBR. The _traditional_ concept involves BIOS and MBR, and I've been using that in the past successfully. The FreeBSD "system" will be accessed first, the boot manager will select how to continue, and it can be set to a default (or "last choice") and configured with a timeout. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 4 18:07:20 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B5A3150B for ; Sun, 4 Jan 2015 18:07:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 70E8631DF for ; Sun, 4 Jan 2015 18:07:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-85-165.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.85.165]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 799DC3CDC0; Sun, 4 Jan 2015 19:07:17 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id t04I7Gk2002997; Sun, 4 Jan 2015 19:07:16 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2015 19:07:16 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Xavier Freebsd Questio Subject: Re: emulate a Xorg configuration of GNU/Linux (Fedora 21) on FreeBSD Message-Id: <20150104190716.35660e63.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <8D1F65CB4E03AE5-15D0-B0B5@webmail-vm170.sysops.aol.com> References: <8D1F641A1D2B4CB-15D0-A6C2@webmail-vm170.sysops.aol.com> <20150104153549.70c269ae.freebsd@edvax.de> <8D1F6518B6F7572-15D0-ABA6@webmail-vm170.sysops.aol.com> <20150104180240.6c6cf30b.freebsd@edvax.de> <8D1F65CB4E03AE5-15D0-B0B5@webmail-vm170.sysops.aol.com> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Xavier Freebsd Questio via freebsd-questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2015 18:07:20 -0000 On Sun, 4 Jan 2015 12:40:46 -0500, Xavier Freebsd Questio via freebsd-questions wrote: > Curiously, with many GNU/Linux flavours, for example, Fedora 21; it get > out the image of desktop by default settings to HDMI of TV. Interesting. What port on the laptop are you using? Is there a "chain of adapters" involved? What GPU driver does X use on the Linux system? > > > My actual /etc/X11/xorg.conf is: > > > > > > http://pastebin.com/ji5QgvE6 > > > > The significant parts are: > > > > Section "Device" > > Identifier "Card1" > > Driver "vesa" > > BusID "PCI:0:2:0" > > EndSection > > > > Maybe you cannot use VESA together with the limited range > > of valid HDMI resolutions... > > > > It is default FreeBSD Xorg configuration generator. So your GPU wasn't properly detected. Are you sure it is supported? > The problem is: I have an Intel video card, not NVIDIA ... In that case, the correct driver has to be installed and loaded, but the sections could look almost the same, except that the Intel GPU driver (and maybe specific options) is set. > My question is, if with GNU/Linux it show by default configuration, > isn't possible in FreeBSD ? Maybe that Linux uses a different approach to detect the GPU and load the driver for X. You can always use "pciconf -lv | less" to check for the correct identification of the GPU, and then add the correct package (for example xf86-video-intel). Then restart X and it will probably load the correct driver. Probably you can go without xorg.conf at all when the driver is available. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 4 22:57:45 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6B5FEE4C for ; Sun, 4 Jan 2015 22:57:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from lb1-smtp-cloud2.xs4all.net (lb1-smtp-cloud2.xs4all.net [194.109.24.21]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "Bizanga Labs SMTP Client Certificate", Issuer "Bizanga Labs CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EE28F64F33 for ; Sun, 4 Jan 2015 22:57:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from slackbox.erewhon.home ([83.162.243.5]) by smtp-cloud2.xs4all.net with ESMTP id byxY1p00M07iGuj01yxZdS; Sun, 04 Jan 2015 23:57:34 +0100 Received: by slackbox.erewhon.home (Postfix, from userid 1001) id D2E2312420; Sun, 4 Jan 2015 23:57:32 +0100 (CET) Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2015 23:57:32 +0100 From: Roland Smith To: Xavier Freebsd Questio Subject: Re: emulate a Xorg configuration of GNU/Linux (Fedora 21) on FreeBSD Message-ID: <20150104225732.GA5732@slackbox.erewhon.home> Mail-Followup-To: Xavier Freebsd Questio , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <8D1F641A1D2B4CB-15D0-A6C2@webmail-vm170.sysops.aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="k1lZvvs/B4yU6o8G" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <8D1F641A1D2B4CB-15D0-A6C2@webmail-vm170.sysops.aol.com> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2015 22:57:45 -0000 --k1lZvvs/B4yU6o8G Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Jan 04, 2015 at 09:26:58AM -0500, Xavier Freebsd Questio via freebs= d-questions wrote: > I have a laptop with an Intel graphics card, but in FreeBSD, I can't=20 > get the image in the VGA external output port. >=20 > I have tried or tested with the same laptop with a GNU/Linux, in this=20 > case a Fedora 21, that by default shows the image through the VGA=20 > external output connector. Try connecting an external monitor, then run the xrandr(1) command and capt= ure the output:: xrandr >screens.txt Then post the content of screens.txt here. This output should show you which connectors the computer sees, and which output formats there are. Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://rsmith.home.xs4all.nl/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 5753 3324 1661 B0FE 8D93 FCED 40F6 D5DC A38A 33E0 (keyID: A38A33E0) --k1lZvvs/B4yU6o8G Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQIcBAABAgAGBQJUqcVcAAoJEED21dyjijPgWVoQAI7aAhPZ3rxsVcnGZEtYFvjw vojCZ5sbsS9umgmQV0PaFsgSkSHGuRBqOvwUfwpjX0pNNEOX7PTAWbAIZl9X8pxz mjS6WiIoIaStmgMlozOovS2Lfx6FNZTFYyh+eYPQDHfUXWw1Z6XMcZs0EwmijOwy F8WG+3I6ury5qkPDeUscr37DeT8sIgIq/8DiNHO04C2Mrr1c1Q9+GXgf+a9/eb/U whb+EseDBS72NB0JZv/FYGLI8ib7X2XFf3hr+PAg7ba3Tg53PhHaQBYws89JhZ4d lDYSvxIcNm5PM4daUcZlVmatkrd53SWjhW8TK633oZHZ4DVHCMZYg58riGttFqWH i8KdDmbC6KZzQz4xp0UVmtEQz667R+YBlYd3qK9NIu3c8IWXaHyHK+XSkx+lmJ4j zd7ZlcmLGFxljywoPexfy8UVH5hmvvBSw3khwC3WEu9Ml0LvL8S0CMszdc2yAmjS p3a5DN0nmRRfPyU7tiUzvnSTELOLIgfDyAR7HHiRdE/Mur3wT4v+3pFWKfksw2aG RdxjtpfdDcSTDyCdjiXkKlc0jq+7/WBugj1GVO6egZxJVQCrddkxR6Dlbo3n+XbG Obnd9sCJa46YS3ns7i3HTIKfLYL4tzDx/7uG4UtxR5XjQstg3rd8gVo7nDQOVXNX 8OIEDipoR5oiHSFU3Bk7 =OG0t -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --k1lZvvs/B4yU6o8G-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 5 00:34:53 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6EA0349F for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2015 00:34:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.unitedinsong.com.au (mail.unitedinsong.com.au [150.101.178.33]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 27E972FAC for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2015 00:34:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.198] (laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au [192.168.0.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.unitedinsong.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4309727489 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2015 10:25:13 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <54A9D9E6.2010008@herveybayaustralia.com.au> Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2015 10:25:10 +1000 From: Da Rock User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions Subject: ZFS replacing drive issues Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2015 00:34:53 -0000 I haven't seen anything specifically on this when googling, but I'm having a strange issue in replacing a degraded drive in ZFS. The drive has been REMOVED from ZFS pool, and so I ran 'zpool replace '. This normally just works, and I have checked that I have removed the correct drive via serial number. After resilvering, it still shows that it is in a degraded state, and that the old and the new drive have been REMOVED. No matter what I do, I can't seem to get the zfs system online and in a good state. I'm running a raidz1 on 9.1 and zfs is v28. Cheers From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 5 00:39:28 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3D81D55A for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2015 00:39:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.17.20]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mout.gmx.net", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CA8AF2FFC for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2015 00:39:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from edws.my.domain ([107.146.213.175]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx101) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MWgND-1YJ9382rmN-00XuoV; Mon, 05 Jan 2015 01:39:18 +0100 Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2015 16:37:17 -0800 From: Ed To: Andrea Venturoli Subject: Re: Blu ray Message-Id: <20150104163717.6474f3e83d74ad9f259693dc@gmx.us> In-Reply-To: <54A97B1B.2080808@netfence.it> References: <54A97B1B.2080808@netfence.it> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.4.2 (GTK+ 2.24.24; x86_64-unknown-openbsd5.6) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:FVDhpewUzjaQ9pzkc8v3X82nDN8Avl7lAOzdlSwtan+9Es2NmBJ jJmH4XI+nT6YcrOrjwvNfJ44ikCjd1C4YrwLB6hY9aodKqd4uf0Wc9aHLL8JzQ5EIl4KL2e Qfi8ZxWoNZr+D0xQB7dS3/O8HiDOk+Qz5W3fvLIpp391UFcZk4XiglgzHWD2fu7jnMwycR3 K8tcMhokb/fz/1SVbENUg== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1; Cc: questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2015 00:39:28 -0000 On Sun, 04 Jan 2015 18:40:43 +0100 Andrea Venturoli wrote: > Hello. > > I know the question has come up several times, but things change... > > Are Blu Ray recorders supported? Especially internal SATA ones? > > Could I buy one just for backup purposes, i.e. preparing a 25-50 GB ISO > and writing it? > What would be the maximum file size? > > Should I use cdrecord? groisofs? Anything else? > > Is 9.3 enough? Any improvement in 10.1? growisofs manpage mentions supporting bluray recording, i guess it would do. may want to search in the email archives. while back i was also looking into bluray support and found an interesting thread in the mailing lists: "blu ray recorders" https://docs.freebsd.org/mail/archive/2012/freebsd-questions/20120422.freebsd-questions.html hope this was of some help:-) -- Ed From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 5 01:01:12 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 885C48BD for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2015 01:01:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fly.hiwaay.net (fly.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3CA9F32DE for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2015 01:01:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from kabini1.local (rbn1-216-180-76-115.adsl.hiwaay.net [216.180.76.115]) (authenticated bits=0) by fly.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/fly) with ESMTP id t0511Aim005696 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Sun, 4 Jan 2015 19:01:10 -0600 Message-ID: <54A9E3CC.1010009@hiwaay.net> Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2015 19:07:24 -0600 From: "William A. Mahaffey III" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: ZFS replacing drive issues References: <54A9D9E6.2010008@herveybayaustralia.com.au> In-Reply-To: <54A9D9E6.2010008@herveybayaustralia.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2015 01:01:12 -0000 On 01/04/15 18:25, Da Rock wrote: > I haven't seen anything specifically on this when googling, but I'm > having a strange issue in replacing a degraded drive in ZFS. > > The drive has been REMOVED from ZFS pool, and so I ran 'zpool replace > '. This normally just works, and I > have checked that I have removed the correct drive via serial number. > > After resilvering, it still shows that it is in a degraded state, and > that the old and the new drive have been REMOVED. > > No matter what I do, I can't seem to get the zfs system online and in > a good state. > > I'm running a raidz1 on 9.1 and zfs is v28. > > Cheers > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Someone posted a similar problem a few weeks ago; rebooting fixed it for them (as opposed to trying to get zfs to fix itself w/ management commands), might try that if feasible .... $0.02, no more,l no less .... -- William A. Mahaffey III ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war ever devised by man." -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 5 01:21:21 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CEF12D28 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2015 01:21:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "wonkity.com", Issuer "wonkity.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 82F48644D7 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2015 01:21:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id t051LFoY036460 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 4 Jan 2015 18:21:15 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.9/8.14.9/Submit) with ESMTP id t051LF7c036457; Sun, 4 Jan 2015 18:21:15 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2015 18:21:15 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: Xavier Freebsd Questio Subject: Re: emulate a Xorg configuration of GNU/Linux (Fedora 21) on FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <8D1F641A1D2B4CB-15D0-A6C2@webmail-vm170.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: References: <8D1F641A1D2B4CB-15D0-A6C2@webmail-vm170.sysops.aol.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.11 (BSF 23 2013-08-11) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Sun, 04 Jan 2015 18:21:15 -0700 (MST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2015 01:21:21 -0000 On Sun, 4 Jan 2015, Xavier Freebsd Questio via freebsd-questions wrote: > I have a laptop with an Intel graphics card, Which one, specifically? What is the laptop model number, and exactly which Intel graphics does it have? > Attached a Xorg log of the GNU/Linux to check what uses the GNU/Linux, to get > it, I do not know if that requires any specific part of the same GNU/Linux > outside of Xorg. > > http://pastebin.com/85Xym8Vs That appears to be a mixed log of events, and I did not see anything useful identifying the type of Intel graphics needed. > Taking it into consideration, Xorg, as well as for GNU/Linux as to FreeBSD. > For all I know, is the same that the GNU/Linux shows the image from the > external VGA, theoretically the setting could be reproduce in FreeBSD. > > Do you have any idea about this topic? Any comments? If you have supported Intel graphics (that is, not Haswell), xrandr can probably switch the video output. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 5 01:23:47 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 68703DC1 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2015 01:23:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "wonkity.com", Issuer "wonkity.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 174C56469F for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2015 01:23:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id t051NgXF037093 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 4 Jan 2015 18:23:42 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.9/8.14.9/Submit) with ESMTP id t051Ng9a037090; Sun, 4 Jan 2015 18:23:42 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2015 18:23:42 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: Xavier Freebsd Questio Subject: Re: emulate a Xorg configuration of GNU/Linux (Fedora 21) on FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <8D1F6518B6F7572-15D0-ABA6@webmail-vm170.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: References: <8D1F641A1D2B4CB-15D0-A6C2@webmail-vm170.sysops.aol.com> <20150104153549.70c269ae.freebsd@edvax.de> <8D1F6518B6F7572-15D0-ABA6@webmail-vm170.sysops.aol.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.11 (BSF 23 2013-08-11) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Sun, 04 Jan 2015 18:23:42 -0700 (MST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2015 01:23:47 -0000 On Sun, 4 Jan 2015, Xavier Freebsd Questio via freebsd-questions wrote: > My actual /etc/X11/xorg.conf is: > > http://pastebin.com/ji5QgvE6 > > Any idea ? Yes, delete or rename that file and let X start without it. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 5 01:29:45 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3F0AFE82 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2015 01:29:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fly.hiwaay.net (fly.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E97A6646FD for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2015 01:29:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from kabini1.local (rbn1-216-180-76-115.adsl.hiwaay.net [216.180.76.115]) (authenticated bits=0) by fly.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/fly) with ESMTP id t051ThFD017026 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Sun, 4 Jan 2015 19:29:43 -0600 Message-ID: <54A9EA7D.8000502@hiwaay.net> Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2015 19:35:57 -0600 From: "William A. Mahaffey III" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "FreeBSD Questions !!!!" Subject: package availability question .... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2015 01:29:45 -0000 .... I type the following as root & get the output below: [root@kabini1, /etc, 7:32:25pm] 351 % pkg rquery -a '%n-%v' | grep -i docker docker-1.5_8 [root@kabini1, /etc, 7:32:42pm] 352 % Is this the same package documented here: https://www.docker.com/ Just checking, fabulous if it is :-) .... If it is, has anyone tried it out ? How did it go ? C'mon, inquiring minds wanna know ;-) .... TIA & have a happy new year. -- William A. Mahaffey III ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war ever devised by man." -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 5 01:32:49 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 48602F21 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2015 01:32:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "wonkity.com", Issuer "wonkity.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E768C64817 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2015 01:32:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id t051Wkrp039388 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 4 Jan 2015 18:32:47 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.9/8.14.9/Submit) with ESMTP id t051Wkxu039385; Sun, 4 Jan 2015 18:32:46 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2015 18:32:46 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: Christian Baer Subject: Re: FreeBSD multiboot / was: FreeBSD with Win7 and UEFI In-Reply-To: <5509024.BRbmVfsGaV@falbala.rz1.convenimus.net> Message-ID: References: <20141226072950.GB13694@kontrol.kode5.net> <5509024.BRbmVfsGaV@falbala.rz1.convenimus.net> User-Agent: Alpine 2.11 (BSF 23 2013-08-11) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Sun, 04 Jan 2015 18:32:47 -0700 (MST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2015 01:32:49 -0000 On Sun, 4 Jan 2015, Christian Baer wrote: > This time, I installed Windows first and FreeBSD after that. I did not find > any option during the installation of the latter to install/setup a boot > loader that allows me to choose the OS I wish to use. The result is that the > Computer now only boots FreeBSD - which is fine with me until I want to do > some gaming. :-) Is the disk partitioned as MBR or GPT? Actually, I don't know if Windows 7 can do GPT without UEFI. If it is MBR, FreeBSD's boot0cfg can be used to install the boot0 loader. If it is GPT, I have managed to use Grub to multiboot, but not with Windows: https://forums.freebsd.org/threads/gpt-multiboot.49055/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 5 01:44:13 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EE76F2C1 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2015 01:44:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from idcmail-mo1so.shaw.ca (idcmail-mo1so.shaw.ca [24.71.223.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A72F464A2F for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2015 01:44:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pd2mr1so-ssvc.prod.shaw.ca ([10.0.141.110]) by pd3mo1so-svcs.prod.shaw.ca with ESMTP; 04 Jan 2015 18:44:07 -0700 X-Cloudmark-SP-Filtered: true X-Cloudmark-SP-Result: v=1.1 cv=s+0R4JzlRBUW8GXF//6L4/AwYJegyFoFyppZH3AfVto= c=1 sm=1 a=FKkrIqjQGGEA:10 a=BLceEmwcHowA:10 a=R_4_8qS_AAAA:8 a=n6MYwUk4AAAA:8 a=q56oFxeYAAAA:8 a=xb8E-3M0AAAA:8 a=6I5d2MoRAAAA:8 a=F7_6Eb0QWAfHd1VSE5kA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=k3S3GY7AwsAA:10 a=47IuoB945Agu1AnIdfIA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 a=HpAAvcLHHh0Zw7uRqdWCyQ==:117 Received: from unknown (HELO cds005.dcs.int.inet) ([10.0.141.22]) by pd2mr1so-svcs.prod.shaw.ca with ESMTP; 04 Jan 2015 18:44:06 -0700 Subject: Re: package availability question .... References: <54A9EA7D.8000502@hiwaay.net> From: Dale Scott MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <54A9EA7D.8000502@hiwaay.net> Message-Id: <11D75E94-C11B-4353-A674-23F239B04940@shaw.ca> Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2015 18:44:07 -0700 (MST) To: "William A. Mahaffey III" X-Mailer: Zimbra 7.1.4_GA_2567 (MobileSync - Apple-iPad2C5/1202.440) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18-1 Cc: FreeBSD Questions !!!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2015 01:44:14 -0000 > On Jan 4, 2015, at 6:29 PM, William A. Mahaffey III wrot= e: >=20 >=20 >=20 > .... I type the following as root & get the output below: >=20 > [root@kabini1, /etc, 7:32:25pm] 351 % pkg rquery -a '%n-%v' | grep -i doc= ker > docker-1.5_8 > [root@kabini1, /etc, 7:32:42pm] 352 % >=20 > Is this the same package documented here: >=20 > https://www.docker.com/ >=20 > Just checking, fabulous if it is :-) .... If it is, has anyone tried it o= ut ? How did it go ? C'mon, inquiring minds wanna know ;-) .... TIA & have = a happy new year. Unfortunately no it appears. From freshports.org http://www.freshports.org/= x11/docker/: "Docker is a docking application (WindowMaker dock app) which acts as a sys= tem tray for KDE3 and GNOME2. It can be used to replace the panel in either= environment, allowing you to have a system tray without running the KDE/GN= OME panel. WWW: http://icculus.org/openbox/2/docker/" My understanding is that Docker is not compatible with FreeBSD due to kerne= l requirements, and that jails reportedly serve a similar, if incompatible,= purpose, but I could be completely wrong. Dale >=20 > --=20 >=20 > William A. Mahaffey III >=20 > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >=20 > "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war > ever devised by man." > -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. >=20 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 5 01:45:04 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C9172488 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2015 01:45:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-la0-x22f.google.com (mail-la0-x22f.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4010:c03::22f]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 63FB564A4E for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2015 01:45:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-la0-f47.google.com with SMTP id hz20so17083192lab.6 for ; Sun, 04 Jan 2015 17:45:02 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=scswa8NGJc7yRNOyB6HTugV1qIPR9zHrGyFKPEzWzbE=; b=D6Bd8AOCEQlX3+c4sGVcakwwvzri9kzdDPjMFjPLW1VIPWXBSqm8QzYFYCDJOClCs+ lh0fDHoN+BilSUFpjwuhuKAZ71unqS06wiu1nJhAgC8/pBpcafRIZdpZJT1Hks42+Vb4 t+yWEQ4aNRUVXEvD+mipI28TRxsQWiwg53L+mOlhjyjJ1sSFqAZNu5gwGU39mZ08MUMk NwiQM3TV7EEyWbW4Hw4Nw3Z3KdNcIH7/0vDUdgaA5O7/4Th2H4rLGdDNz73M/ufZNnqb sjKaJG2YlYPgL8Tfox2vL1OYrvIkyz6hYZtQRqvPzLNUKr8GJn4XRnnB2Nd28qjKlvzX 7B5A== X-Received: by 10.152.8.225 with SMTP id u1mr89576207laa.21.1420422302484; Sun, 04 Jan 2015 17:45:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from lazlar.no-ip.biz (213-64-218-92-no126.business.telia.com. [213.64.218.92]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id o3sm10989763laf.42.2015.01.04.17.45.02 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 04 Jan 2015 17:45:02 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <54A9EC9D.9070500@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2015 02:45:01 +0100 From: Rolf Nielsen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Blu ray References: <54A97B1B.2080808@netfence.it> In-Reply-To: <54A97B1B.2080808@netfence.it> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2015 01:45:05 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 On 2015-01-04 18:40, Andrea Venturoli wrote: > Hello. > > I know the question has come up several times, but things > change... > > Are Blu Ray recorders supported? Especially internal SATA ones? > > Could I buy one just for backup purposes, i.e. preparing a 25-50 GB > ISO and writing it? What would be the maximum file size? > > Should I use cdrecord? groisofs? Anything else? > > Is 9.3 enough? Any improvement in 10.1? > > bye & Thanks av. _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To > unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" I have an internal SATA BluRay recorder. Specifically cd0: Removable CD-ROM SCSI-0 device I'm not 100% certain, but I think it's a Liteon (the name isn't printed on the externally visible part of the drive). I've had it for several years (three I think), and it's worked flawlessly since day one, with both sysutils/cdrtools-devel and sysutils/dvd+rw-tools. To my knowledge the maximum file size of mkisofs is 4GB, and since growisofs uses mkisofs for the fs creation, that limit applies to it as well. The limit is for the files contained in the ISO fs. The ISO file itself can be bigger. If you need bigger files, there is also sysutils/udfclient. I can't tell you how good/bad it is though, because I've never used it. Regards, Rolf -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJUqeyEAAoJEPJMW41Co4JgXLcP/jmgW1aHEdqd06dFpb5YIsMJ CqWI2IL0uX4jIm2/9Tif7dKUxwTzG7L5r8TvOsDx0jD2uc+K6d/ly4itWLr4FNxS 76MbICIzrPcVOm+LixKmTYQaQyOg4UBiUINjqjcdBNqCU+CWVMTz0jHgD2+WWOmG rb75jFJlB9kA7cb2YKzcfcZWwZzR3kaOF/j54y0lJj0FyCMLQbL0dpMRcIgU2t1R BzOcZAAw7UJQjbSDaQjHagDFOXeezZGIRyYDAeWah9xyl3Xx5e24hj118Zz34/aq 7gyR3jrqKJ4yGZxjtsCmT1kbEHm+Jg4AYSlPA4p5uClcsr+SYzMawXsrT+8wJKEm bVpgDMpT65QJU3gWujbIp/Q3MdfTC4gRpUFSVUoibx5s8Gt7ap01EVo6+e+8Vp8J WF3ATS+lfXbx6JAQ0cLrXlG5FrF2CDF4YHSzz2mbBjuNktK2KVrR0V8vPvH3TsV/ 7MyyETfPfjWLA/RR7UIglzSkfeZzJnAPg7m3GcLIt3iuse3CBPNYrJ7/caUwE5Sr a7uTrIJ7gn3pzOXjRTjXsFD7GLDa2c98Z7b7ko+K2hToq88LSBHRz25y9zW1PXgR iB4ViETqWsABVDIKEoHm5CQYuYd/KT+cQQfZ0xF4ob28Kw/QTApPGHZfOLJMxo8A CTpymslMwaB8+5nzkAPH =HKZ7 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 5 01:54:59 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D909E5D7 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2015 01:54:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-oi0-x230.google.com (mail-oi0-x230.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c06::230]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9B27764C08 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2015 01:54:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-oi0-f48.google.com with SMTP id u20so46065514oif.7 for ; Sun, 04 Jan 2015 17:54:58 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=kzZ1qhpQljM+bOPrhjf46cVC0WQfDLnXP1sNa2FuNHs=; b=Doxw5uCzE3wZ35GgxxxoH/C/QgOHhFthvL/aZBfi6dkmyo0ynkLreIpu7qCSTeh58y xqHgIqXs+QycQ9UhLMg/QhdJ8F1tyIiRtA0DXe9j3WrqE4bf1F/u9Atf6Vm1VY/+mIMl BqoeE92Wqq8iUaKhjmpsbU4OwZKqePWY5DOh/Axj4mNgaBe7td72BqF3hGP4hiPxOXEL NyIMbYov6gKjFTJCWyO9fHuEA5mlZsfbvxG6UJKXI8DyNKYOZpKOz8cqCeBe41snqblo X9sY1SOCgMeZr87tNqGbmosqxsOYGMMxnfxgFH4Gi92QgQ28dqAw/N1AgzhINY/cbqC+ Reyg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.183.24.162 with SMTP id ij2mr11351047obd.18.1420422898889; Sun, 04 Jan 2015 17:54:58 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.182.247.74 with HTTP; Sun, 4 Jan 2015 17:54:58 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.182.247.74 with HTTP; Sun, 4 Jan 2015 17:54:58 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <54A9EA7D.8000502@hiwaay.net> References: <54A9EA7D.8000502@hiwaay.net> Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2015 17:54:58 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: package availability question .... From: jungle Boogie To: "William A. Mahaffey III" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18-1 Cc: FreeBSD Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2015 01:55:00 -0000 Hi William, On Jan 4, 2015 5:29 PM, "William A. Mahaffey III" wrote: > > > > .... I type the following as root & get the output below: > > [root@kabini1, /etc, 7:32:25pm] 351 % pkg rquery -a '%n-%v' | grep -i docker > docker-1.5_8 > [root@kabini1, /etc, 7:32:42pm] 352 % > > Is this the same package documented here: > > https://www.docker.com/ > > Just checking, fabulous if it is :-) .... If it is, has anyone tried it out ? How did it go ? C'mon, inquiring minds wanna know ;-) .... TIA & have a happy new year. > > Look it up on freshports.org What makes docker better than jails? > -- > > William A. Mahaffey III > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war > ever devised by man." > -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 5 02:15:52 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A8681D62 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2015 02:15:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fly.hiwaay.net (fly.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 74C1664F3D for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2015 02:15:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from kabini1.local (rbn1-216-180-76-115.adsl.hiwaay.net [216.180.76.115]) (authenticated bits=0) by fly.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/fly) with ESMTP id t052Fo3X002110 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Sun, 4 Jan 2015 20:15:51 -0600 Message-ID: <54A9F54C.5040700@hiwaay.net> Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2015 20:22:04 -0600 From: "William A. Mahaffey III" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: package availability question .... References: <54A9EA7D.8000502@hiwaay.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2015 02:15:52 -0000 On 01/04/15 19:54, jungle Boogie wrote: > Hi William, > On Jan 4, 2015 5:29 PM, "William A. Mahaffey III" wrote: >> >> >> .... I type the following as root & get the output below: >> >> [root@kabini1, /etc, 7:32:25pm] 351 % pkg rquery -a '%n-%v' | grep -i > docker >> docker-1.5_8 >> [root@kabini1, /etc, 7:32:42pm] 352 % >> >> Is this the same package documented here: >> >> https://www.docker.com/ >> >> Just checking, fabulous if it is :-) .... If it is, has anyone tried it > out ? How did it go ? C'mon, inquiring minds wanna know ;-) .... TIA & have > a happy new year. >> > Look it up on freshports.org > > What makes docker better than jails? > >> -- >> >> William A. Mahaffey III >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war >> ever devised by man." >> -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. >> >> > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Firstly, I know *nothing* about jails, & only what I have read about docker online @ the above link. With that, docker seems to be more portable, i.e. I can develop packages under docker on my box & run them under/on docker on other boxen relatively willy-nilly, so implyeth the above website. I do have some KVM VM's running under FC14 (I know, way out of date), & am able to run executables compiled therein under other similar (Linux, just different versions) boxen on my LAN, *relatively* reliably. Docker seems to promise more flexibility on that front .... -- William A. Mahaffey III ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war ever devised by man." -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 5 02:23:08 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 46032EF2 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2015 02:23:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ipmail06.adl6.internode.on.net (ipmail06.adl6.internode.on.net [150.101.137.145]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D74552EE7 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2015 02:23:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ppp14-2-13-162.lns21.adl2.internode.on.net (HELO leader.local) ([14.2.13.162]) by ipmail06.adl6.internode.on.net with ESMTP; 05 Jan 2015 12:47:58 +1030 Message-ID: <54A9F453.1020303@ShaneWare.Biz> Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2015 12:47:55 +1030 From: Shane Ambler User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ed , Andrea Venturoli Subject: Re: Blu ray References: <54A97B1B.2080808@netfence.it> <20150104163717.6474f3e83d74ad9f259693dc@gmx.us> In-Reply-To: <20150104163717.6474f3e83d74ad9f259693dc@gmx.us> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2015 02:23:08 -0000 On 05/01/2015 11:07, Ed wrote: > On Sun, 04 Jan 2015 18:40:43 +0100 > Andrea Venturoli wrote: > >> Hello. >> >> I know the question has come up several times, but things change... >> >> Are Blu Ray recorders supported? Especially internal SATA ones? >> >> Could I buy one just for backup purposes, i.e. preparing a 25-50 GB ISO >> and writing it? >> What would be the maximum file size? >> >> Should I use cdrecord? groisofs? Anything else? >> >> Is 9.3 enough? Any improvement in 10.1? > > growisofs manpage mentions supporting bluray recording, i guess it would do. > > may want to search in the email archives. > > while back i was also looking into bluray support and found an interesting thread in the > mailing lists: "blu ray recorders" > https://docs.freebsd.org/mail/archive/2012/freebsd-questions/20120422.freebsd-questions.html > > hope this was of some help:-) > As I mentioned in those emails I have an LG BH12LS38. Running 9.0 - 9.2 I burnt DVD's and CD's without issue using k3b - which is a gui frontend to the cli tools. Max file size is dependant on the filesystem not the disk, I think UDF is normally used for Blu Ray so will support files over 2GB. After those emails I tried burning a BD-R and failed, I think it was buffer underrun. I have 8GB RAM and was using zfs on a single disc at the time so more RAM may help. The disc was recognised as BD-R all started fine just didn't complete. I would have been running 9.1 at the time - over a year ago. I have recently upgraded to 10.1 but haven't burnt any disks yet. BD-R prices are down to a couple of dollars a disk so may be time to try again. -- FreeBSD - the place to B...Software Developing Shane Ambler From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 5 02:34:03 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D6CD5FD1 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2015 02:34:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pandora.au.calorieking.net (mail.au.calorieking.net [115.70.179.114]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7B18811D4 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2015 02:34:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pandora.au.calorieking.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pandora.au.calorieking.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FBD6C for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2015 10:33:47 +0800 (WST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at calorieking.com Received: from pandora.au.calorieking.net ([127.0.0.1]) by pandora.au.calorieking.net (mail.au.calorieking.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 9I3EGX6qJ8Fb for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2015 10:33:47 +0800 (WST) Received: from egeria.internal (egeria.internal [192.168.2.111]) by pandora.au.calorieking.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 306C2A for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2015 10:33:47 +0800 (WST) Message-ID: <54A9F80A.2010507@calorieking.com> Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2015 10:33:46 +0800 From: Gregory Orange User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: CURRENT: Intel Haswell KMS support? References: <20141231203011.51831755.ohartman@zedat.fu-berlin.de> <20141231200235.GA3957@unixarea.DDR.dd> <20141231214835.0f46afc4.ohartman@zedat.fu-berlin.de> <54A52D47.10306@qeng-ho.org> In-Reply-To: <54A52D47.10306@qeng-ho.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2015 02:34:03 -0000 Hi Arthur, On 01/01/15 19:19, Arthur Chance wrote: > This is being written on a machine with an Intel i7-4790K CPU (Devil's > Canyon, i.e. Haswell) and a Dell U2711 2560x1440 monitor. The X VESA > driver works fine for me at native resolution. OK, I'm not a gamer and I > don't do anything that needs fast 3D, but it works well enough that my > first thought after reading the original post was "Haswell graphics > aren't supported???" because I'd completely forgotten I was using the > VESA driver. Using a vt console rather than sc I have no problem > dropping out of X back into console mode either. I think this is the problem I'm facing - can you clarify and assist if possible? I have a Haswell i3 which runs X fine with vesa, but when I quit X, the machine crashes hard and requires holding the power button. Cheers, Greg. 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Cc: questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2015 03:27:45 -0000 On Mon, 05 Jan 2015 12:47:55 +1030 Shane Ambler wrote: > After those emails I tried burning a BD-R and failed, I think it was > buffer underrun. I have 8GB RAM and was using zfs on a single disc at > the time so more RAM may help. > > The disc was recognised as BD-R all started fine just didn't complete. > > I would have been running 9.1 at the time - over a year ago. > > I have recently upgraded to 10.1 but haven't burnt any disks yet. > > BD-R prices are down to a couple of dollars a disk so may be time to try > again. Thank You for the updated infomation. interesting... I wonder if used ufs instead of zfs would of made any difference? -- Ed From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 5 07:20:33 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 81F88B87 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2015 07:20:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from m13-117.163.com (m13-117.163.com [220.181.13.117]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52CDB6401A for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2015 07:20:31 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=163.com; s=s110527; h=Date:From:Subject:MIME-Version:Message-ID; bh=CgWiB 7G7r7nUoczCDu4MKA6XfOcvMNhpxsTHqvER8rI=; b=ExKq2OMRvH2F9mIflIWwj lw3oDIAVtbjexuGfV2gjHmFXljQvCbGd9fC75un2TN7Of2ynMVJhQbPk8we5X72v 4VGujmKKPGC7tqWa1LGr7cv+vHmEKbKD9SaO4VtbMs6J2Z8iwCdRETPOVn3h7aMH jPtEmok0jcEQKyFt5Nj7J8= Received: from t_mary_9$163.com ( [106.6.189.188] ) by ajax-webmail-wmsvr117 (Coremail) ; Mon, 5 Jan 2015 15:20:20 +0800 (CST) X-Originating-IP: [106.6.189.188] Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2015 15:20:20 +0800 (CST) From: Mary To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Attn:Purchasing IP65 SAA Down Light Easter Industries 1/4/2015 11:20:18 PM X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Coremail Webmail Server Version SP_ntes V3.5 build 20140915(28949.6690) Copyright (c) 2002-2015 www.mailtech.cn 163com X-CM-CTRLDATA: nRSLB2Zvb3Rlcl9odG09MjYwNTo4MQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <64b59124.80ca.14ab8f744d4.Coremail.t_mary_9@163.com> X-CM-TRANSID: dcGowEAp8EI1O6pUXQcfAA--.3040W X-CM-SenderInfo: pwbpt2t1bzqiywtou0bp/1tbiWQx4MlD+ZhsG9QAMsz X-Coremail-Antispam: 1U5529EdanIXcx71UUUUU7vcSsGvfC2KfnxnUU== Content-Type: text/plain; charset=GBK Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18-1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2015 07:20:33 -0000 RGVhciBNYW5hZ2VyLAoKV2UgYXJlIHByb2Zlc3Npb25hbCBtYW51ZmFjdHVyZXIgb2YgbGVkIGxp Z2h0aW5nIGZpeHR1cmVzLgoKV2hhdCB3ZSBvZmZlcjoKCjEuCgo3LTUwVyBMRUQgRG93biBMaWdo dAoKQ0UsIFJPSFMsIFNBQSBDZXJ0aWZpY2F0ZQoKMC0xMFYgb3IgdHJpYWMgRGltbWFibGUKCklQ NjUgV2F0ZXIgUHJvb2YKCjIuCgo2MC01MDBXIExFRCBIaWdoIEJheSBMaWdodAoKVUwsIENVTCAs Q0UsIFJvaHMgQ2VydGlmaWNhdGUKCkhpZ2ggbHVtaW5hbmNlIDEwMGxtL3cKCkxpZ2h0aW5nIHdl aWdodCAxNjBXPTIuOUtHCgpTaG91bGQgeW91IGhhdmUgYW55IGludGVyZXN0LCBwbGVhc2UgY29u dGFjdCB1cyBmb3IgcG9zc2libGUgZGVhbCwgdGhhbmtzICEKCkJlc3QgcmVnYXJkcywKCk1hcnkK Ckd1YW5nemhvdSBFYXN0ZXIgSW5kdXN0cmllcyBDby4sIEx0ZC4KCkFkZDogTm8uMSBDaGFuZ2Fu IFJvYWQsIEx1b2dhbmcgRGlzdHJpY3QgLCBHdWFuZ3pob3UgQ2hpbmEKCkVtYWlsOmluZm9AZWFz dGVyaW5kdXN0cmllcy5jb20KCldlYnNpdGU6d3d3LmVhc3RlcmluZHVzdHJpZXMuY29tCgpTa3lw ZTplYXN0ZXJpbmR1c3RyaWVzCgpUZWw6IDg2LTIwLTM4OTk3ODkxCgoyMDE1LzEvNCAyMzoyMDox OSA4NDAxOS4wNiAgICAg From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 5 08:35:52 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 345819E7 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2015 08:35:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from bede.qeng-ho.org (bede.qeng-ho.org [217.155.128.241]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C1BD339A7 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2015 08:35:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from arthur.home.qeng-ho.org (arthur.home.qeng-ho.org [172.23.1.2]) by bede.home.qeng-ho.org (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id t058ZbFV064666; Mon, 5 Jan 2015 08:35:38 GMT (envelope-from freebsd@qeng-ho.org) Message-ID: <54AA4CD9.50808@qeng-ho.org> Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2015 08:35:37 +0000 From: Arthur Chance User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gregory Orange , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: CURRENT: Intel Haswell KMS support? References: <20141231203011.51831755.ohartman@zedat.fu-berlin.de> <20141231200235.GA3957@unixarea.DDR.dd> <20141231214835.0f46afc4.ohartman@zedat.fu-berlin.de> <54A52D47.10306@qeng-ho.org> <54A9F80A.2010507@calorieking.com> In-Reply-To: <54A9F80A.2010507@calorieking.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2015 08:35:52 -0000 On 05/01/2015 02:33, Gregory Orange wrote: > Hi Arthur, > > On 01/01/15 19:19, Arthur Chance wrote: >> This is being written on a machine with an Intel i7-4790K CPU (Devil's >> Canyon, i.e. Haswell) and a Dell U2711 2560x1440 monitor. The X VESA >> driver works fine for me at native resolution. OK, I'm not a gamer and I >> don't do anything that needs fast 3D, but it works well enough that my >> first thought after reading the original post was "Haswell graphics >> aren't supported???" because I'd completely forgotten I was using the >> VESA driver. Using a vt console rather than sc I have no problem >> dropping out of X back into console mode either. > > I think this is the problem I'm facing - can you clarify and assist if > possible? I have a Haswell i3 which runs X fine with vesa, but when I > quit X, the machine crashes hard and requires holding the power button. The problem with sc and the new X system is that on return from X to console mode the sc driver can't regain control of the screen to display anything. It doesn't crash, but you get a black screen so you might think it's not responding. In fact, if you (carefully) type "shutdown -r now" (or any other command) it will respond. If that's what's happening, switching to the vt driver will help. If you're genuinely getting a crash though it's not an sc versus vt problem. To use the vt driver on my system I have the following two lines in /boot/loader.conf kern.vty=vt i915kms_load="YES" Try that (and reboot of course) and see what happens. -- Those who do not learn from computing history are doomed to GOTO 1 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 5 08:44:17 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 517CABC7 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2015 08:44:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ms-10.1blu.de (ms-10.1blu.de [178.254.4.101]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 085513BCA for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2015 08:44:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [89.204.155.194] (helo=unixarea.DDR.dd) by ms-10.1blu.de with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1Y83Ge-00005h-Ln; Mon, 05 Jan 2015 09:44:05 +0100 Received: from unixarea.DDR.dd (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by unixarea.DDR.dd (8.14.9/8.14.3) with ESMTP id t058i1qX002851; Mon, 5 Jan 2015 09:44:01 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: (from guru@localhost) by unixarea.DDR.dd (8.14.9/8.14.3/Submit) id t058i0E3002850; Mon, 5 Jan 2015 09:44:00 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) X-Authentication-Warning: unixarea.DDR.dd: guru set sender to guru@unixarea.de using -f Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2015 09:44:00 +0100 From: Matthias Apitz To: Arthur Chance Subject: Re: CURRENT: Intel Haswell KMS support? Message-ID: <20150105084400.GA2822@unixarea.DDR.dd> Reply-To: Matthias Apitz Mail-Followup-To: Matthias Apitz , Arthur Chance , Gregory Orange , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20141231203011.51831755.ohartman@zedat.fu-berlin.de> <20141231200235.GA3957@unixarea.DDR.dd> <20141231214835.0f46afc4.ohartman@zedat.fu-berlin.de> <54A52D47.10306@qeng-ho.org> <54A9F80A.2010507@calorieking.com> <54AA4CD9.50808@qeng-ho.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <54AA4CD9.50808@qeng-ho.org> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 11.0-CURRENT r269739 (i386) User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-Con-Id: 51246 X-Con-U: 0-guru X-Originating-IP: 89.204.155.194 Cc: Gregory Orange , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2015 08:44:17 -0000 El día Monday, January 05, 2015 a las 08:35:37AM +0000, Arthur Chance escribió: > To use the vt driver on my system I have the following two lines in > /boot/loader.conf > > kern.vty=vt > i915kms_load="YES" > > Try that (and reboot of course) and see what happens. Be carefully with the last line (i915kms_load="YES") and prepared to boot from another media to reset it again, because some hardware does not boot with this. matthias -- Matthias Apitz, guru@unixarea.de, http://www.unixarea.de/ +49-170-4527211 1989-2014: The Wall was torn down so that we go to war together again. El Muro ha sido derribado para que nos unimos en ir a la guerra otra vez. Diese Grenze wurde aufgehoben damit wir gemeinsam wieder in den Krieg ziehen. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 5 08:51:09 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9924ADE8 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2015 08:51:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from bede.qeng-ho.org (bede.qeng-ho.org [217.155.128.241]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 33C603C2F for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2015 08:51:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from arthur.home.qeng-ho.org (arthur.home.qeng-ho.org [172.23.1.2]) by bede.home.qeng-ho.org (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id t058p4C4064683; Mon, 5 Jan 2015 08:51:04 GMT (envelope-from freebsd@qeng-ho.org) Message-ID: <54AA5078.7030403@qeng-ho.org> Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2015 08:51:04 +0000 From: Arthur Chance User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Matthias Apitz , Gregory Orange , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: CURRENT: Intel Haswell KMS support? References: <20141231203011.51831755.ohartman@zedat.fu-berlin.de> <20141231200235.GA3957@unixarea.DDR.dd> <20141231214835.0f46afc4.ohartman@zedat.fu-berlin.de> <54A52D47.10306@qeng-ho.org> <54A9F80A.2010507@calorieking.com> <54AA4CD9.50808@qeng-ho.org> <20150105084400.GA2822@unixarea.DDR.dd> In-Reply-To: <20150105084400.GA2822@unixarea.DDR.dd> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2015 08:51:09 -0000 On 05/01/2015 08:44, Matthias Apitz wrote: > El día Monday, January 05, 2015 a las 08:35:37AM +0000, Arthur Chance escribió: > >> To use the vt driver on my system I have the following two lines in >> /boot/loader.conf >> >> kern.vty=vt >> i915kms_load="YES" >> >> Try that (and reboot of course) and see what happens. > > Be carefully with the last line (i915kms_load="YES") and prepared to > boot from another media to reset it again, because some hardware does > not boot with this. Any idea what hardware triggers this? I've got an i7-4790K CPU on an Asus Z97-A mobo and that works OK for the record. -- Those who do not learn from computing history are doomed to GOTO 1 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 5 10:18:13 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D570B84E for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2015 10:18:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from icp-osb-irony-out9.external.iinet.net.au (icp-osb-irony-out9.external.iinet.net.au [203.59.1.226]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B1501CE0 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2015 10:18:13 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AhwFADRkqlRyxkj4/2dsb2JhbABcgkNDIjCDDsNfAYcCFgEBAQEBfYQTCCAFWQUGEAJQPwEEHoggmVyjK5AUghcMQIEwBYw+gVdNjkCLNiKBUQGCMCqCdAEBAQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.07,698,1413216000"; d="scan'208,217";a="582191728" Received: from unknown (HELO ianfPC) ([114.198.72.248]) by icp-osb-irony-out9.iinet.net.au with ESMTP; 05 Jan 2015 18:18:05 +0800 From: "Ian Fitzgerald" To: Subject: FBSD 10.1 installation attempt on Proliant 150ML G6 Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2015 21:17:51 +1100 Message-ID: <001401d028d0$dca39100$95eab300$@com.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AdAo0NxqdVeCSZJLR7a8K+ebzVlUBw== Content-Language: en-au Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18-1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2015 10:18:13 -0000 Hello recipients I have performed countless installs over many years and most have been easy, or my errors are soon discovered. I acquired this solid piece of hardware, and, despite noticing some problems encountered by other FBSD users with this marque, I took up the challenge, using FreeBSD 10.1 (amd64). At first I configured the native gigabit nic (bge), with and without PXE enabled, then installed an Intel gigabit CT (em) card and tried configuring that, with and without bge enabled. Hardware probe finds both nics, and reports whichever is configured to be active. DHCP times out for either, manual configuration (bsdinstall) appears to work, but when the parameters are to be displayed from ?unbound, the entries are blank, requiring re-entry of the values including gateway. Ifconfig reports active configured nic, with the manually entered ip address. Of course ping reports host down for any other hosts on the private network. I am unsure whether this is an old HP problem, whether the board is defective, or whether something malign has been introduced in 10.1. I am loathe to invest in a support contract, especially when the docs for the latest cumulative ROM upgrade contain no mention of nic fixes. Any suggestions? Ian Fitzgerald. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 5 12:47:50 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EFD46743 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2015 12:47:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from sender1.zohomail.com (sender1.zohomail.com [74.201.84.155]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D881F66FF3 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2015 12:47:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.zoho.com by mx.zohomail.com with SMTP id 1420462059535718.3802120816207; Mon, 5 Jan 2015 04:47:39 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2015 04:47:39 -0800 From: fred To: Message-ID: <14aba22efdd.e082095c6803.5720013214474732092@trinitech.co.uk> References: Subject: Re:freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 553, Issue 1 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: Medium User-Agent: Zoho Mail X-Mailer: Zoho Mail Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18-1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2015 12:47:50 -0000 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 5 14:02:34 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F0AE2AAF for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2015 14:02:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7ECCE647CF for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2015 14:02:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-85-165.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.85.165]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 837D03CE81; Mon, 5 Jan 2015 15:02:21 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id t05E2Koc002118; Mon, 5 Jan 2015 15:02:20 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2015 15:02:20 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Xavier Freebsd Questio Subject: Re: emulate a Xorg configuration of GNU/Linux (Fedora 21) on FreeBSD Message-Id: <20150105150220.cdc5e793.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <8D1F66AE0047A1D-15D0-B871@webmail-vm170.sysops.aol.com> References: <8D1F641A1D2B4CB-15D0-A6C2@webmail-vm170.sysops.aol.com> <20150104153549.70c269ae.freebsd@edvax.de> <8D1F6518B6F7572-15D0-ABA6@webmail-vm170.sysops.aol.com> <20150104180240.6c6cf30b.freebsd@edvax.de> <8D1F65CB4E03AE5-15D0-B0B5@webmail-vm170.sysops.aol.com> <20150104190716.35660e63.freebsd@edvax.de> <8D1F66AE0047A1D-15D0-B871@webmail-vm170.sysops.aol.com> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Xavier Freebsd Questio via freebsd-questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2015 14:02:35 -0000 On Sun, 4 Jan 2015 14:22:12 -0500, Xavier Freebsd Questio via freebsd-questions wrote: > On Sun, Jan 04, 2015 at 07:07:16PM +0100, Polytropon wrote: > > What GPU driver does X use on the Linux system? > > > > See Xorg log of GNU/Linux: http://pastebin.com/85Xym8Vs This seems to be /var/log/messages, not /var/log/Xorg.0.log. Within the line noise, I think I found something: (II) LoadModule: "vesa" (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/vesa_drv.so So this also uses VESA? But the device detection seem to work: (II) modesetting(0): EDID for output LVDS-0 (II) modesetting(0): Manufacturer: IVO Model: 3f4 Serial#: 0 It lists several supported modes, but they somehow don't really look like what one would associate with a modern flat panel TV set... Note this: (II) modesetting(0): Output VGA-0 connected (II) modesetting(0): Output LVDS-0 connected (II) modesetting(0): Output DVI-0 disconnected (II) modesetting(0): Output DisplayPort-0 disconnected One probably is the internal display, the other one is the TV. Both are claimed to be initialized at 800x600, which sounds strange... But DRI and GLX seem to be supported. Funny... (II) modesetting(0): EDID vendor "IVO", prod id 1012 (II) modesetting(0): Printing DDC gathered Modelines: (II) modesetting(0): Modeline "1024x600"x0.0 [...] (II) modesetting(0): Allocate new frame buffer 1024x768 stride It's quite hard to see the "normal run" of X.org messages in this file, it seems to represent more than one session. Does this file mean that Linux is successful by using the VESA driver for that card and TV combination? > > So your GPU wasn't properly detected. Are you sure it > > is supported? > > > > In FreeBSD I don't know. I ask for it here. It's basically about the availability of a X.org driver. Maybe a kernel module is also involved. > http://pastebin.com/ZBqSx4Sn That is the relevant entry: vgapci0@pci0:0:2:0: class=0x030000 card=0x09331025 chip=0x0f318086 rev=0x0e hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = 'ValleyView Gen7' class = display subclass = VGA Doesn't say much... I'm not sure which of the available Intel driver supports a "ValleyView Gen7". Supported cards (or chipsets) are usually listed in the manpage after you've installed the driver ... > http://pastebin.com/uC4ZqNyh ... which you have: root@acer-jan:~ # pkg info | grep xf86-video-intel xf86-video-intel-2.21.15_6 Driver for Intel integrated graphics chipsets By the way: There's no need to paste two lines of text to pastebin. Not everyone likes to utilize a web browser when reading or answering e-mails, especially because this often is a privacy concern. > The load driver: http://pastebin.com/aKuxRbkg Relevant lines: [ 73.161] (II) LoadModule: "intel" [ 73.167] (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/intel_drv.so [ 73.183] (II) Module intel: vendor="X.Org Foundation" [ 73.183] compiled for 1.14.7, module version = 2.21.15 [ 73.183] Module class: X.Org Video Driver [ 73.183] ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 14.1 [...] [ 73.186] (II) intel: Driver for Intel(R) Integrated Graphics Chipsets: i810, i810-dc100, i810e, i815, i830M, 845G, 854, 852GM/855GM, 865G, 915G, E7221 (i915), 915GM, 945G, 945GM, 945GME, Pineview GM, Pineview G, 965G, G35, 965Q, 946GZ, 965GM, 965GME/GLE, G33, Q35, Q33, GM45, 4 Series, G45/G43, Q45/Q43, G41, B43, HD Graphics, HD Graphics 2000, HD Graphics 3000, HD Graphics 2500, HD Graphics 4000, HD Graphics P4000, HD Graphics 4600, HD Graphics 5000, HD Graphics P4600/P4700, Iris(TM) Graphics 5100, HD Graphics 4400, HD Graphics 4200, Iris(TM) Pro Graphics 5200 I don't see your particular card listed here, except of course "ValleyView Gen7" is one of them. Interestingly, VESA is _also_ loaded. Why is that? For comparison, I have a nVidia card, and the nVidia driver is loded. It's the only driver which is loaded. It it possible that there are two distinct graphic subparts in that laptop? > More ideas ? Thanks. What's the output of the "xrandr" command (without any options)? -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 5 14:10:23 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DE5C8D42 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2015 14:10:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9C95864897 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2015 14:10:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-85-165.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.85.165]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E138F3CD03; Mon, 5 Jan 2015 15:10:21 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id t05EALbp002171; Mon, 5 Jan 2015 15:10:21 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2015 15:10:20 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Xavier Freebsd Questio Subject: Re: emulate a Xorg configuration of GNU/Linux (Fedora 21) on FreeBSD Message-Id: <20150105151020.89aab170.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <8D1F6AC53C2F2F0-4F4-BD1DB@webmail-va133.sysops.aol.com> References: <8D1F6AC53C2F2F0-4F4-BD1DB@webmail-va133.sysops.aol.com> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Xavier Freebsd Questio via freebsd-questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2015 14:10:24 -0000 On Sun, 4 Jan 2015 22:10:43 -0500, Xavier Freebsd Questio via freebsd-questions wrote: > My 'pciconf -vl' output: http://pastebin.com/qr4aGyS5 I'd like to repeat the significant sections: vgapci0@pci0:0:2:0: class=0x030000 card=0x09331025 chip=0x0f318086 rev=0x0e hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = 'ValleyView Gen7' class = display subclass = VGA Bridges, network and other stuff omitted. :-) > My 'xrandr' output: http://pastebin.com/qc07q53r Screen 0: minimum 1366 x 768, current 1368 x 768, maximum 1368 x 768 default connected 1368x768+0+0 0mm x 0mm 1366x768 0.00 1368x768 0.00* > What do you think? This looks like how a flat panel TV should be addressed correctly. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 5 14:18:16 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3450CF09 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2015 14:18:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-pd0-x231.google.com (mail-pd0-x231.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c02::231]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F204364A62 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2015 14:18:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-pd0-f177.google.com with SMTP id ft15so28104884pdb.22 for ; Mon, 05 Jan 2015 06:18:15 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=Wp9EUvSBli0x2jWqCV1BBoRZvqSXj5aQRqSkz7ie6Rg=; b=zMVZDrMblOUOSrr2qjti+Hl9EdZ33qJ175WnBDoaje3XHt9qrmE3lJWcLdWa3e/yyY sy74GiFPIp8gLawpoYGp2AiHdx54Q4OWs4bUa5rQye5DuR74bJjY+JuDcmagGrIXXs4q XzNU910uZEeZIB634yZYFPVyFwgrijsYX5qHuX8nwvzAV8QelfSp85ZcWXgGrD8g0Y8B Ic3BH7PPzZuTUTQwlw4f0++A8YFg9eDojUTiP2NkYHoUMdnxRtEL3qTZgsJoBhq07cNB vylSz9+1tZVs0vKcpxVLTDFeWMV3Mwz1rtWQPHvNNR3CgIZYTaEyit0fN7ZXPGMrg5y2 3JpQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.70.90.209 with SMTP id by17mr148302636pdb.162.1420467495326; Mon, 05 Jan 2015 06:18:15 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.70.101.133 with HTTP; Mon, 5 Jan 2015 06:18:15 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20150105084400.GA2822@unixarea.DDR.dd> References: <20141231203011.51831755.ohartman@zedat.fu-berlin.de> <20141231200235.GA3957@unixarea.DDR.dd> <20141231214835.0f46afc4.ohartman@zedat.fu-berlin.de> <54A52D47.10306@qeng-ho.org> <54A9F80A.2010507@calorieking.com> <54AA4CD9.50808@qeng-ho.org> <20150105084400.GA2822@unixarea.DDR.dd> Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2015 08:18:15 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: CURRENT: Intel Haswell KMS support? From: Adam Vande More To: Matthias Apitz , Arthur Chance , Gregory Orange , FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18-1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2015 14:18:16 -0000 On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at 2:44 AM, Matthias Apitz wrote: > El d=C3=ADa Monday, January 05, 2015 a las 08:35:37AM +0000, Arthur Chanc= e > escribi=C3=B3: > > > To use the vt driver on my system I have the following two lines in > > /boot/loader.conf > > > > kern.vty=3Dvt > > i915kms_load=3D"YES" > > > > Try that (and reboot of course) and see what happens. > > Be carefully with the last line (i915kms_load=3D"YES") and prepared to > boot from another media to reset it again, because some hardware does > not boot with this. > > matthias > If there are problems booting with it, then simply using the loader prompt to not load the module is generally an easier solution. --=20 Adam From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 5 15:07:40 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B5E55E1C for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2015 15:07:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "wonkity.com", Issuer "wonkity.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5E96A67063 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2015 15:07:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id t05F7UBY038710 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 5 Jan 2015 08:07:30 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.9/8.14.9/Submit) with ESMTP id t05F7Tos038707; Mon, 5 Jan 2015 08:07:30 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2015 08:07:29 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: Arthur Chance Subject: Re: CURRENT: Intel Haswell KMS support? In-Reply-To: <54AA5078.7030403@qeng-ho.org> Message-ID: References: <20141231203011.51831755.ohartman@zedat.fu-berlin.de> <20141231200235.GA3957@unixarea.DDR.dd> <20141231214835.0f46afc4.ohartman@zedat.fu-berlin.de> <54A52D47.10306@qeng-ho.org> <54A9F80A.2010507@calorieking.com> <54AA4CD9.50808@qeng-ho.org> <20150105084400.GA2822@unixarea.DDR.dd> <54AA5078.7030403@qeng-ho.org> User-Agent: Alpine 2.11 (BSF 23 2013-08-11) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Mon, 05 Jan 2015 08:07:30 -0700 (MST) Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18-1 Cc: Matthias Apitz , Gregory Orange , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2015 15:07:40 -0000 On Mon, 5 Jan 2015, Arthur Chance wrote: > On 05/01/2015 08:44, Matthias Apitz wrote: >> El día Monday, January 05, 2015 a las 08:35:37AM +0000, Arthur Chance >> escribió: >> >>> To use the vt driver on my system I have the following two lines in >>> /boot/loader.conf >>> >>> kern.vty=vt >>> i915kms_load="YES" >>> >>> Try that (and reboot of course) and see what happens. >> >> Be carefully with the last line (i915kms_load="YES") and prepared to >> boot from another media to reset it again, because some hardware does >> not boot with this. > > Any idea what hardware triggers this? I've got an i7-4790K CPU on an Asus > Z97-A mobo and that works OK for the record. Manually loading the module is not necessary, and sometimes causes problems. There is also hw.vga.textmode=1, which causes vt to remain in text mode until a switch to graphics is made, like starting X. This can make booting faster, mostly due to text scrolling. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 5 15:23:32 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BD74F56C for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2015 15:23:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-yh0-x229.google.com (mail-yh0-x229.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4002:c01::229]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 77707672A3 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2015 15:23:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-yh0-f41.google.com with SMTP id a41so10665636yho.28 for ; Mon, 05 Jan 2015 07:23:31 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=FHTWYY8Uz4tl1/Zt35+slJRBaCiWxFAA40ivEgNK0eU=; b=sOyoQLmIer9V9hWB5fY7yPFa9v5O5DrrpA1fUouLiz+9XEvrZBMttbwaIYFcGpTepB zSpHLxC461rrubSrbbPyN+V99dE8/F3bzanDNH+XTJOkOYl421x8RAfPcgxzSxKkJzmy 3IdGFDuRovn4QJ/yFGqzZ2UCItudJ6Aau0MTiIUQ6VP98rfRKC0uXCl02IO+F0UXn292 7hxgFRgAh574AUzGSI2MEA3k4s7sE+RD8P+JCrXEmfEEODPVAaAIghhxJVHLUho97Ce9 6aHVwmmzRAUXwDYVWcvzJvR/FaVdTEw/L8TJsi3BpirAT+YP76pVj9Kr8iEaRIyrHeem NzrQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.236.231.49 with SMTP id k47mr17417212yhq.86.1420471411542; Mon, 05 Jan 2015 07:23:31 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.170.188.144 with HTTP; Mon, 5 Jan 2015 07:23:31 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20150103125246.GA99061@oslo.ath.cx> References: <54A7C54E.3000708@eskk.nu> <20150103125246.GA99061@oslo.ath.cx> Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2015 15:23:31 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Follow up question, unbound drill command From: krad To: "Herbert J. Skuhra" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18-1 Cc: FreeBSD Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2015 15:23:32 -0000 why are you even bothering with external tools? # pfctl -t ssl_stop -T add www.yahoo.com 3/3 addresses added. # pfctl -t ssl_stop -T show 46.228.47.114 46.228.47.115 192.168.210.84 2a00:1288:110:2::4001 On 3 January 2015 at 12:52, Herbert J. Skuhra wrote: > On Sat, Jan 03, 2015 at 11:32:46AM +0100, Leslie Jensen wrote: > > > > I have two scripts that makes a table that I use in PF to allow access > > from the outside to my local network. > > > > The command I use can look like the line below. > > > > for HOST in $HOSTS; do pfctl -t goodguys -T add `dig +short $HOST $NS`; > done > > > > > > Replacing dig with drill in the command does not work. > > > > > > Making a symlink in /usr/bin > > > > ln -s drill dig > > > > solves the problem. > > > > > > Any suggestions on what I need to do in the script in order to make > > drill work? > > Accoding to the man pages host and drill have no short option! > Why are you installing dns/bind-tools? > > -- > Herbert > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 5 15:48:16 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B1AFAAA for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2015 15:48:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "wonkity.com", Issuer "wonkity.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5EE17675DE for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2015 15:48:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id t05FmCX2057295 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 5 Jan 2015 08:48:12 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.9/8.14.9/Submit) with ESMTP id t05FmC1e057291; Mon, 5 Jan 2015 08:48:12 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2015 08:48:12 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: Xavier Freebsd Questio Subject: Re: emulate a Xorg configuration of GNU/Linux (Fedora 21) on FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <8D1F6AC53C2F2F0-4F4-BD1DB@webmail-va133.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: References: <8D1F6AC53C2F2F0-4F4-BD1DB@webmail-va133.sysops.aol.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.11 (BSF 23 2013-08-11) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Mon, 05 Jan 2015 08:48:12 -0700 (MST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2015 15:48:16 -0000 On Sun, 4 Jan 2015, Xavier Freebsd Questio via freebsd-questions wrote: >>> I have a laptop with an Intel graphics card, >> >> Which one, specifically? What is the laptop model number, and > exactly >> which Intel graphics does it have? >> > > My 'pciconf -vl' output: http://pastebin.com/qr4aGyS5 (The quoting makes it difficult to reply to your messages. Might want to see if that can be fixed.) As Polytropon pointed out, it is a "Valley View Gen7" GPU, apparently a successor to Bay Trail. Whether the FreeBSD version of the X intel driver supports that yet, I don't know. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 5 15:50:17 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3C376157 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2015 15:50:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp-gw11.han.skanova.net (smtp-gw11.han.skanova.net [81.236.55.20]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C484567604 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2015 15:50:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from Leslies-MacBook-Pro.local (194.237.176.105) by smtp-gw11.han.skanova.net (8.5.142.07) id 5435B849018E565C; Mon, 5 Jan 2015 16:48:48 +0100 Message-ID: <54AAB260.3030703@eskk.nu> Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2015 16:48:48 +0100 From: Leslie Jensen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.10; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: krad , "Herbert J. Skuhra" Subject: Re: Follow up question, unbound drill command References: <54A7C54E.3000708@eskk.nu> <20150103125246.GA99061@oslo.ath.cx> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2015 15:50:17 -0000 krad skrev 2015-01-05 16:23: > why are you even bothering with external tools? > > # pfctl -t ssl_stop -T add www.yahoo.com > 3/3 addresses added. > > > # pfctl -t ssl_stop -T show > 46.228.47.114 > 46.228.47.115 > 192.168.210.84 > 2a00:1288:110:2::4001 > > > > On 3 January 2015 at 12:52, Herbert J. Skuhra wrote: > To be honest I don't know. At the time the scripts was created I got help on this list and the commands was suggested here. I'll try your suggestion. Thank you :-) /Leslie From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 5 16:06:07 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CEFE7861 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2015 16:06:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.hemio.de (mail.hemio.de [176.9.40.240]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 91D7D2743 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2015 16:06:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from bulldozer.local (p4FC24BC4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [79.194.75.196]) by mail.hemio.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id AD1E01BC for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2015 17:00:20 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2015 17:00:18 +0100 From: Roman Naumann To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: GDB SIGSEGV with 32 binaries on 10.1-amd64 Message-ID: <20150105160018.GA30902@bulldozer.local> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2015 16:06:07 -0000 Hi, I noticed the GNU Debugger (GDB) seems to be unable to debug 32 bit binaries on the FreeBSD amd64 platform. A simple example gives a SIGSEGV when running the binaries in GDB, as shown below. GDB 7.8 shows a warning. GDB 6.1 just reports the signal. There exists a /libexec/ld-elf32.so.1, but I cannot figure out how to make gdb use it. Maybe it will not fix the issue even if gdb uses this library. Ideas and hints much appreciated. Best regards, Roman -- checked so far: -> /usr/lib32 exists -> recompile gdb7 from ports instead of using pkg -- system: FreeBSD bulldozer.local 10.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 10.1-RELEASE #3 r275043M: Tue Nov 25 16:52:35 CET 2014 namor@bulldozer.local:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 -- how to reproduce: [namor@bulldozer ~]$ cat test2.c int main() { return 0; } [namor@bulldozer ~]$ gcc -m32 -o test2 test2.c [namor@bulldozer ~]$ gdb test2 [namor@bulldozer ~]$ gdb78 test2 GNU gdb (GDB) 7.8 [GDB v7.8 for FreeBSD] (...) (gdb) run Starting program: /grave/home/namor/test2 warning: `/libexec/ld-elf.so.1': Shared library architecture i386:x86-64 is not compatible with target architecture i386. warning: `/libexec/ld-elf.so.1': Shared library architecture i386:x86-64 is not compatible with target architecture i386. Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. 0x000004e3 in ?? () From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 5 16:09:01 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1E4E592D for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2015 16:09:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from relay4-d.mail.gandi.net (relay4-d.mail.gandi.net [IPv6:2001:4b98:c:538::196]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D44F5279C for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2015 16:09:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mfilter28-d.gandi.net (mfilter28-d.gandi.net [217.70.178.159]) by relay4-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F9D41720D3 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2015 17:08:58 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at mfilter28-d.gandi.net Received: from relay4-d.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.183.196]) by mfilter28-d.gandi.net (mfilter28-d.gandi.net [10.0.15.180]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id UxGnuKAp-Zhw for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2015 17:08:27 +0100 (CET) X-Originating-IP: 120.60.143.243 Received: from localhost (triband-mum-120.60.143.243.mtnl.net.in [120.60.143.243]) (Authenticated sender: mayuresh@kathe.in) by relay4-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 611DD172095 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2015 17:08:26 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2015 21:38:24 +0530 From: Mayuresh Kathe To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: working with obj-c under freebsd! Message-ID: <20150105160823.GA1080@aio.kathe.in> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2015 16:09:01 -0000 i had asked this question before and was advised to install the gnustep framework before trying out obj-c development under freebsd. finally got the whole thing installed and tried to compile the following simple objective-c program. #import int main (int argc, const char * argv[]) { @autoreleasepool { NSLog (@"Programming is fun!"); } return 0; } the compiler options used were as below; clang -fobjc-arc main.m -o prog1 the compiler threw up the following error; main.m:3:9: fatal error: 'Foundation/Foundation.h' file not found #import ^ 1 error generated. what can i do to get the above resolved? thanks, ~mayuresh From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 5 16:58:01 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D79827A0 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2015 16:58:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-pd0-x22d.google.com (mail-pd0-x22d.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c02::22d]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A3ED42FF1 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2015 16:58:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-pd0-f173.google.com with SMTP id ft15so28520978pdb.32 for ; Mon, 05 Jan 2015 08:58:01 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:from:subject:to:content-type:mime-version:organization :date; bh=In5uNBQnaaOV9zL+q1z17/7azrhm4w9hW90sK5dSGKQ=; b=p36CBVMbr8HBLbQk0g6jJpVxOfsMiJwDIx4neaTdajcOBTmpr4GQ7+aLZ9Lxa+aH5S 4cHVh7EOUJv7CSeQ87rPEocbIQRA9qyz7A7OR5MrHBu3naCnYrbYYQrMouJFnDW9DmyO g3GbuC70kQ1z8u7F+k7UAIHEuE3ViaKJ013aiISJZyIcrp8psY9uKE7hBB2shfkIKtPK oJXQBDpjuVxOA3cNfPZG0BhRB0KjLhs5A1UAqGObbIFpLoCjs1MMuy5DZzS48Ob5cSuZ PlT+g2dXbyxMkYm0gxCtM5LOi0yftDC0MjUycs4/BmahNB9RnGETu4wV2hXaHT6QtwKe 4r4Q== X-Received: by 10.68.213.132 with SMTP id ns4mr128634053pbc.148.1420477081177; Mon, 05 Jan 2015 08:58:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from static-238.105.96.14-tataidc.co.in ([14.96.18.204]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id oc16sm54720960pdb.41.2015.01.05.08.57.56 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 05 Jan 2015 08:57:57 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <54aac295.5082460a.2f45.47d2@mx.google.com> From: "Ron" Subject: Business funding quote To: "freebsd-questions" MIME-Version: 1.0 Organization: Ron Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2015 22:27:55 +0530 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18-1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2015 16:58:01 -0000 =EF=BB=BFHello =20 We are financial services provider focused on helping to solve the cas= h flow needs of our small business customers. 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Best regards, Michelle From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 5 17:02:58 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2AA7A953 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2015 17:02:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from phsmgmx14-outx.partners.org (phsmgmx14-outx.partners.org [155.52.251.17]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.partners.org", Issuer "InCommon Server CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B3718303D for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2015 17:02:56 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AqQEACDDqlSsG6iw/2dsb2JhbABchDTNLwEBAQEBAXyEDgQBOkQNAT4vEycEiDe5UINGAQEIAQEBAQEBHJMUgRMFjhUEiXyCZY1ehBCCNH4BAQE X-IPAS-Result: AqQEACDDqlSsG6iw/2dsb2JhbABchDTNLwEBAQEBAXyEDgQBOkQNAT4vEycEiDe5UINGAQEIAQEBAQEBHJMUgRMFjhUEiXyCZY1ehBCCNH4BAQE Received: from phsx10ht4.partners.org ([172.27.168.176]) by phsmgmx14-out.partners.org with ESMTP/TLS/AES128-SHA; 05 Jan 2015 12:01:26 -0500 Received: from PHSX10MB7.partners.org ([169.254.7.24]) by PHSX10HT4.partners.org ([172.27.168.176]) with mapi id 14.03.0181.006; Mon, 5 Jan 2015 12:01:26 -0500 From: "Morse, Richard E.,MGH" To: "questions@freebsd.org" Subject: TeTeX retirement instructions? Thread-Topic: TeTeX retirement instructions? Thread-Index: AQHQKQk91uEDELYmp0CSRhS7MogFyQ== Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2015 17:01:25 +0000 Message-ID: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [172.27.173.109] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2015 17:02:58 -0000 Hi! According to the announcement back in 2013 regarding TeX: > teTeX-based ports and TeXLive are mutually exclusive. This means TeXLi= ve > ports cannot be installed when teTeX is already installed. You need > to remove all of the TeX-related packages based on teTeX to try TeXLive. > Migration procedure will be announced when conversion of the port > dependency is completed. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 5 17:59:57 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B674A22C for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2015 17:59:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from relay4-d.mail.gandi.net (relay4-d.mail.gandi.net [IPv6:2001:4b98:c:538::196]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 77B7A3A71 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2015 17:59:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mfilter2-d.gandi.net (mfilter2-d.gandi.net [217.70.178.140]) by relay4-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B716C172094 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2015 18:59:54 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at mfilter2-d.gandi.net Received: from relay4-d.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.183.196]) by mfilter2-d.gandi.net (mfilter2-d.gandi.net [10.0.15.180]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id U0+40ERfuC6C for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2015 18:59:52 +0100 (CET) X-Originating-IP: 120.60.165.96 Received: from localhost (triband-mum-120.60.165.96.mtnl.net.in [120.60.165.96]) (Authenticated sender: mayuresh@kathe.in) by relay4-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id A08411720A3 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2015 18:59:51 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2015 23:29:50 +0530 From: Mayuresh Kathe To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: working with obj-c under freebsd! Message-ID: <20150105175949.GA972@aio.kathe.in> References: <20150105160823.GA1080@aio.kathe.in> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20150105160823.GA1080@aio.kathe.in> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User quest