From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Sat Dec 23 07:12:17 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDD35E9DBA7 for ; Sat, 23 Dec 2017 07:12:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kob6558@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ua0-x22c.google.com (mail-ua0-x22c.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400c:c08::22c]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8DE1879979 for ; Sat, 23 Dec 2017 07:12:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kob6558@gmail.com) Received: by mail-ua0-x22c.google.com with SMTP id n9so12462988ual.13 for ; Fri, 22 Dec 2017 23:12:17 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc; bh=nTDO5YX+638aeiY2sJdzKM36CAhJ2xCXXhnOq3X191g=; b=tG/ziZJWOH7n32C/tD1SC3lhC4NbolV7Stm6xNdNtYyxXb9jwF3Y7JxOS9AigvYqXp IbBpiexE7y1UzM6E3SYmR1MR1eo2MGOjQUP5Wy4xyIPpdscawssmYWbFqeUtjU/uHLyP Q1GzEyrrJA0/Rst814j1DawZNE42uD5JXaSsvtP0+ks5V8Lsj91DCJ11rKXGt735gows GRWvagHbhEnR0lz7FvRUtJ5zdCOWd3KnVVLMpdaXwctDUXxOLKat/F4TLd7ZLl3tfkFs iNdIVlDSH3uzOa+zpWLeBTHEu2UG8H+F5XlaXkrpISCFWsjksVRQe52qeFN0FRb2yWRw QsgQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=nTDO5YX+638aeiY2sJdzKM36CAhJ2xCXXhnOq3X191g=; b=l+J+/ElgscZt/XNac3PwctnJn3Kazh0vtzdD+WMRtX/PKPOcgQrq940vBxsX8+w2E1 zGW1e3muztxCaqNHhsUltqmCCa/6TbaGjfUNYiKnd7jhSePjWLQqqDgbo40v2geJaarD 7C/xTTvFsA2LwBvPyVq5QlK7MkEeyemuxMnvhZ+oQQ9UqA0oYmS9MqDVMpx+0ygnAmRg eWrmSxQFgRPayTn+JtGBE5SNt8r7vUuWDTjOJUonhf+sQyTYkYEjGF5XZgo+oNnnnH1A 6wfLueL/3Kgv8H/atIODIMF2fAP7z4JtXNvS7LOxGk6OiKd44W10/b4Vq7cmAXZR5G4u naxg== X-Gm-Message-State: AKGB3mKalbeiE7llCHPLjDMAHiYtKUBQUxQZV9RtLJ27rtqXV74Nh9Nk hfTOwbL/R5BSVWKYfg2h0pkDitr06rSVpO3AXIdSL3EJ X-Google-Smtp-Source: ACJfBos24CRYJt23Xkj0CFtA1t/rGRF0Dc1qVqVVozWXdUdO5Abbe8r0R/mwUsbGTFCMPM77wQU2lVQeSCvA93+zS4M= X-Received: by 10.159.51.75 with SMTP id a11mr18709190uac.147.1514013136281; Fri, 22 Dec 2017 23:12:16 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: kob6558@gmail.com Received: by 10.103.147.156 with HTTP; Fri, 22 Dec 2017 23:12:15 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <5A39F7C9.1030800@grosbein.net> <05504d3c-3225-e83f-8f10-225319421a35@gmx.de> <5A3B7BFF.2020202@grosbein.net> <845b162a-918d-4a5f-c3c2-4f58b60bff73@gmx.de> <5A3CA1B5.2090907@grosbein.net> From: Kevin Oberman Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2017 23:12:15 -0800 X-Google-Sender-Auth: moF8qMWRXK_N2aWkR9OZgOa71sM Message-ID: Subject: Re: Procmail got updated! To: Matthias Andree Cc: FreeBSD Ports ML , Eugene Grosbein Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.25 X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2017 07:12:18 -0000 On Fri, Dec 22, 2017 at 2:29 AM, Matthias Andree wrote: > Am 22.12.2017 um 07:09 schrieb Eugene Grosbein: > > 22.12.2017 9:50, Matthias Andree =D0=BF=D0=B8=D1=88=D0=B5=D1=82: > >> Am 21.12.2017 um 10:16 schrieb Eugene Grosbein: > >> > >>> So, you demand we stop shipping any unmaintained software with our > Ports & Packages? > >>> Absence of CVEs means nothing and almost any non-trivial software has > bugs (axiom). > >> Eugene, these are attempts to distract from the argument, or to mount = to > >> fallacies. I do not intend to respond further to them or other of your > >> messages in this thread. > > That was real question, I like to know the answer. > > That generic question bears no relevance to the procmail case. OK. It looked like a reasonable question and a one-liner answer which seemed to say "I can't justify anything here" or "I don't want to bother". So maybe it could be clarified. First, I don't think Eugene meant "unmaintained by FreeBSD" but unmaintained upstream. Or maybe both. Can you clarify, Eugene? We have many ports that have no FreeBSD maintainer. We have fewer, but many that have no upstream maintainer. I know, as I use and have a critical need for a few. One that comes to mind is complex and almost certainly has at least one bug that could trigger a CVE if found. This is true with almost any complex code. So, why does Eugene's question have no relevance to the procmail case? Could you please explain? For the record, I have not used procmail for at least 7 years, perhaps longer. -- Kevin Oberman, Part time kid herder and retired Network Engineer E-mail: rkoberman@gmail.com PGP Fingerprint: D03FB98AFA78E3B78C1694B318AB39EF1B055683