From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 19 06:15:55 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5008E106564A for ; Tue, 19 Jul 2011 06:15:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from f.bonnet@esiee.fr) Received: from hp9.esiee.fr (hp9.esiee.fr [147.215.1.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C62888FC17 for ; Tue, 19 Jul 2011 06:15:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.esiee.fr (mail.esiee.fr [147.215.1.3]) by hp9.esiee.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id A983014E99C6 for ; Tue, 19 Jul 2011 08:15:53 +0200 (CEST) X-DKIM: OpenDKIM Filter v2.4.1 hp9.esiee.fr A983014E99C6 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=esiee.fr; s=MAILOUT; t=1311056153; bh=X6ziDbNRSVR+vfL0MtWWUcEB5/j6QwRZ+qAWnLBV0KI=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type; b=Vm4SKcSgwkfDWwelosiZyI9xjD9gimzO/c5sFeCzTxuDJPqfOvtS7V5GDap175AqT wTjQdr+04cQjf26J4bGBTOzHrROwGfEPGmlqhDXhoSNGYoQ+iNBNMuDFOCVV/6EzzO AtwOaAP4wYbSnLAK7xQcIiYTL0CY711Q8H4/oyQc= Received: from mail.esiee.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by VAMS.dummy (Postfix) with SMTP id 9FB873C3CB5 for ; Tue, 19 Jul 2011 08:15:53 +0200 (CEST) Received: from secure.esiee.fr (secure.esiee.fr [147.215.1.19]) by mail.esiee.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C4523C3CAF for ; Tue, 19 Jul 2011 08:15:53 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [147.215.1.21] (lisa.esiee.fr [147.215.1.21]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: bonnetf) by secure.esiee.fr (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 6B6A4EAE2B for ; Tue, 19 Jul 2011 08:15:53 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4E252119.3030208@esiee.fr> Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 08:15:53 +0200 From: Frank Bonnet User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.2.18) Gecko/20110617 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <201107190549.p6J5n6sP028960@mail.r-bonomi.com> In-Reply-To: <201107190549.p6J5n6sP028960@mail.r-bonomi.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: Tools to find "unlegal" files ( videos , music etc ) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 06:15:55 -0000 Wow wow !!! I did not want to start a flame war with my post ... Things for me are clear : In France it's illegal and I have my boss's instruction : - find and delete the files that's all. On 07/19/2011 07:49 AM, Robert Bonomi wrote: >> From editor@d3photography.com Tue Jul 19 00:05:30 2011 >> Subject: Re: Tools to find "unlegal" files ( videos , music etc ) >> From: Ryan Coleman >> Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 00:05:27 -0500 >> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >> To: Robert Bonomi >> >> >> On Jul 18, 2011, at 10:23 PM, Robert Bonomi wrote: >> >>>> Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2011 23:01:53 -0700 From: perryh@pluto.rain.com >>>> Subject: Re: Tools to find "unlegal" files ( videos , music etc ) >>>> >>>> Robert Bonomi wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> All well and good for locating files of a certain format and/or with >>>> particular content, but it doesn't address the question of whether a >>>> specific copy is "legal", i.e. did the user who put it there have th= e >>>> legal right to put it there? >>> {{ Noting that the troll contributed nothing constructive to the OP's >>> problem, _or_ to dealing with the pseudo-issue he raises. }} >>> >>> Obviously the ankle-biter was incapable of reading the ACTUAL REQUEST >>> the OP made: >>> >>> "Anyone knows an utility that I could pipe to the "find" command >>> in order to detect video, music, games ... etc files ? >>> >>> I need a tool that could "inspect" inside files because many users >>> rename those filename to "inoffensive" ones :-)" >>> >>> NOTE WELL that the OP was _smart_enough_ -- unlike the prior poster -= - >>> to ask about something that _can_ be done mechanically. >>> >>> Furthermore, it was _explicit_ in the actual suggestion that it only >>> produced a list possible 'suspects' -- It did _not_ provide any >>> indication of status -- 'legal', or otherwise. >> Go to hell. > I recommend you take your own advice -- then you might have an opportun= ity > to learn "what the hell" you're talking about. > >> He wants to rename the files that are illegal to ones tha= t >> aren't. > Have you got *anything* to support that =3Dlibelous=3D accusation? > > While you're at it, I dare you to attempt to explain how 'renaming' a > file can _possibly_ make it 'legal' if it were not so before the renami= ng.. > > Next, _if_ he was doing that, can you explain _why_ he needed to look '= inside' > the file for content type? > > He is specifically attempting to find content that has *ALREADY* been > 'concealed' in 'innocuous' file names. > >> That's circumventing copyright law and would land him or her i= n >> jail. > THAT statement is 'libel per se', and, as such, actionable defamation. > >> This topic, based solely on ethics, should not be discussed as = any >> suggestions that this is LEGAL to do supports copyright violations. > STRAWMAN ALERT!! > > BOGON ALERT!! > > "This topic" -- meaning *YOUR* "false to fact" assumption about the OP > 'renaming' copyright-infringing files to avoid detection -- exists *ONL= Y* > in your depraved imagination. > > Since there is =3Dnothing=3D in this discussion, up to this point, that= touchs > on the point _at_all_, It is *pure*fiction* to postulate that there hav= e > been any suggestions that 'this is legal'. > > In point of actual FACT, the OP, a _system_administrator_, is attemptin= g > to ferret out possible COPYRIGHT VIOLATIONS -- of the type you so vehem= ently > oppose -- BY HIS USERS. > > Yet, for some reason, you are opposed to those who are offering said ad= min > assistince in FINDING THE VIOLATIONS. > > >> I would record those names and DELETE them but only if the TOS support= s >> it. > You *do* realize that doing _that_ would make *you* potentially liable = for > CRIMINAL PROSECUTION for 'intentionally destroying evidence' of a crime= , > don't you? > >> If it does not, then you get the DCMA notice > You *REALLY*are an ignoramus, aren't you? > > Did you notice _where_ the OP was posting from? > > Do you have any idea of the geographic limits of the DMCA? > > Did you notice that the OP, a system administrator, has _already_ recei= ved > a legal notice about 'infringing' files on his system? > >> and handle it >> accordingly from the copyright holder. >> > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd= .org" --=20 Frank BONNET 01.45.92.66.17 Service des Moyens Informatiques Generaux ESIEE PARIS Cit=E9 Descartes / BP 99 93162 NOISY-LE-GRAND Cedex http://www.esiee.fr