From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 9 17:03:35 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04E71862 for ; Tue, 9 Apr 2013 17:03:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsimmons0@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ee0-f46.google.com (mail-ee0-f46.google.com [74.125.83.46]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E39899F for ; Tue, 9 Apr 2013 17:03:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ee0-f46.google.com with SMTP id d49so2026972eek.5 for ; Tue, 09 Apr 2013 10:03:33 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=rFwlMMA90Qf4XeRBsGJZOSW6sM0Bt+qYl/Wsi5gwhqo=; b=u/6Aizcdb0OtQjUmFPdzZq+bq1kL0h6RRxGCEgZSe5A1rLGtuf04JYkKjRyb249B4q 8qxcWJu09kg++Q5rI2DPL5QRKhTuz8tJYdB+XvFl9X0q+MGcmhIErfoMflA6q/QQ/C8t 0ES8UqFCcmQUQZaNZYfcv5TgZPhHrKxlIdTf4AzT8lpKjc3Z3JnxPJfAipeuiA0MpW11 Z+Nx9rxcc3T/d05G1w1kd5nO5vVPCBAI2m2L7lswOiGPbTixHbi11/I5RFyzZ4Q38/TF qL2mE0O/Tfs1RaMQ2PuLdzHuI0cIVMSDaCKIjh4RHZIoiYH6UM+nxQCv4PXwxsRUSKUc TnRQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.14.183.198 with SMTP id q46mr62158045eem.1.1365527013394; Tue, 09 Apr 2013 10:03:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.14.138.73 with HTTP; Tue, 9 Apr 2013 10:03:33 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1365526115.3607.6.camel@localhost> References: <51622F44.3050604@FreeBSD.org> <1365441764.4112.1.camel@localhost> <51641315.3080704@bluerosetech.com> <1365526115.3607.6.camel@localhost> Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2013 13:03:33 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Growing list of required(ish) ports From: Robert Simmons To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2013 17:03:35 -0000 On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 12:48 PM, Florent Peterschmitt wrote: > Le mardi 09 avril 2013 =E0 06:09 -0700, Darren Pilgrim a =E9crit : >> On 2013-04-08 10:22, Florent Peterschmitt wrote: >> > Yep, OpenSSH is tiny enought to keep it in base system. It would be a >> > big loss not to have it by default, securely installed in the base >> > system. >> >> I really wish it wasn't. Having OpenSSH (and thus OpenSSL) in the base >> means FreeBSD has an outdated version installed by default. You have to >> install openssl from ports in order to have modern cipher support, TLS >> v1.1/1.2, DTLS, etc. This puts two sets of openssl libs on the system >> and creates recurrent headaches with builds where the autoconfiguration >> selects the wrong set of libs. > > Hum, I didn't thought about that. So I think it would be possible to > have a secondary =AB branch =BB for the distribution including something > like =AB special ports =BB which can be retrieved, built and managed (for > porters) quickly. > > Anybody think something like that is relevant and possible to do ? One thing to note is that these parts of base are kept just about as up-to-date as ports over in the HEAD branch. In the case of OpenSSH, HEAD is way way more up to date than ports. These changes are also fairly quickly MFC'd over to stable. The real hiccup is that these changes don't dribble out of freebsd-update.